What's going on Auckland?

[Chief Stipe]

3 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

You've proven time & time again you don't trust me.

Obviously, the seed I planted grew & you chose not to trust the professionals (vets).

I should have wrote that in the sarcasm font.

[Yankiwi]

58 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Well they don't according to your statistics they have a 66% greater chance of injury if they make contact with the rail.

Dogs that don't make contact with the rail are not injured by it.

Edited September 7, 2023 by Yankiwi

[Yankiwi]

Hey Top Dog.

I see you have a different way of reporting the Auckland races but that doesn't change what's happening on the track.

These two dogs should have had a vet check post-race & should have been recorded as contacting the rail in your report.

 

[Chief Stipe]

On 7/09/2023 at 4:22 PM, Yankiwi said:

Dogs that don't make contact with the rail are not injured by it.

But dogs that don't hit the rail get injured.  Does the dog that hits the rail get injured before, when or after it hits the rail?  

[Yankiwi]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

But dogs that don't hit the rail get injured.  Does the dog that hits the rail get injured before, when or after it hits the rail?  

Dogs that don't make contact with the rail are not injured by it.

[Chief Stipe]

25 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

Dogs that don't make contact with the rail are not injured by it.

 

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

But dogs that don't hit the rail get injured.  Does the dog that hits the rail get injured before, when or after it hits the rail?  

Could a dog that pulls a gracillus lose its balance and hit the rail?

[Yankiwi]

8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

 

Could a dog that pulls a gracillus lose its balance and hit the rail?

Of course it could.

If/when it does, I'll record it as a rail strike.

GRNZ dropped the ball and didn't protect the then injured dog from the rail like they claimed they were going to.

 

[Chief Stipe]

You're getting repetitive Charles.  Why don't you try waving a placade on course?

[Yankiwi]

13 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

You're getting repetitive Charles.  Why don't you try waving a placade on course?

You keep asking the same sort of questions, I keep answering them the same way.

That's not repetitive, it's consistent, just like all the dogs making contact with the running rail in Auckland.

 

[Chief Stipe]

27 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

You keep asking the same sort of questions, I keep answering them the same way.

That's not repetitive, it's consistent, just like all the dogs making contact with the running rail in Auckland.

 

I'll keep pointing out your analysis is flawed.  You don't attempt to eliminate bias.  From my observation IF dogs are hitting the running rail it isn't the rail or the lure it is more likely the camber of the track or the way it is groomed.

To eliminate that you need to do an analysis on those dogs that had soft tissue injuries that DIDN'T hit the rail and compare with other tracks.

[Yankiwi]

Seems with what they posted yesterday, GRNZ agrees with what I've highlighted & plan (again) on implementing what they said they were going to undertake 9 years ago.

Funny that.

https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Quarterly Reports/Final GRNZ Quarterly Report 31 July 2023.pdf

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

20 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

Seems with what they posted yesterday, GRNZ agrees with what I've highlighted & plan (again) on implementing what they said they were going to undertake 9 years ago.

Funny that.

https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Quarterly Reports/Final GRNZ Quarterly Report 31 July 2023.pdf

 

 

But a safety rail doesn't stop the dogs from hitting it - unless it is anti magnetic or the same polarity as the dogs.

[Yankiwi]

30 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

But a safety rail doesn't stop the dogs from hitting it - unless it is anti magnetic or the same polarity as the dogs.

[Chief Stipe]

23 minutes ago, Yankiwi said:

So?  Doesn't stop the dogs from hitting it!  May reduce the incidence of injury but not the cause of hitting the rail.

[Yankiwi]

Guinness has confirmed a new world record!

Two different dogs only a second apart.

 

[Yankiwi]

Same dog twice in one race.

 

Then this one slipped the eyes of the Steward.

 

No surprises to why this then happened.

MY IDOL (5) - referred to the Veterinarian at trainers request for a left hind toe laceration with a 7 day incapacitation issued.

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by Yankiwi

[Yankiwi]

Rough 4th quarter start.

[Yankiwi]

With only 1 Sunday left in the month for racing in Auckland, I'm looking forward to seeing their new safety rail being installed to protect dog from making contact with the running rail. Afterall, GRNZ claimed to the Govt that it would be installed by late November.

 

 

https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Quarterly Reports/Final GRNZ Quarterly Report 31 July 2023.pdf

 

4th Quarter.

 

Year to date.

[Chief Stipe]

9 hours ago, Yankiwi said:

With only 1 Sunday left in the month for racing in Auckland, I'm looking forward to seeing their new safety rail being installed to protect dog from making contact with the running rail

I'm really pleased you have something to look forward to.

[Yankiwi]

No new safety rail on Sunday.

For some reason I'm not surprised.

Another missed deadline (even after 10 years from when they first signaled it) from the outfit that claims welfare underpins everything they do.

[BitofaLegend]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/503977/safe-welcomes-confirmation-of-end-of-greyhound-racing-at-manukau-stadium

 

Could be the clubs last lease of the track anyway...

[Chief Stipe]

NEW ZEALAND AUCKLAND REGION5 Dec 2023

SAFE welcomes confirmation of end of greyhound racing at Manukau stadium

11:25 pm on 5 December 2023 

The inquiry will look into aspects of the racing and breeding of greyhounds.File pic Photo: Photosport

An animal rights group says it is delighted with the decision to remove the greyhound racing track from the Manukau Sports Bowl.

 

The Ōtara-Papatoetoe Local Board announced last Friday that a new athletics track will replace the greyhound track.

 

The local board said the change was part of a plan, aiming to guide the development of the stadium for the next 30 years.

 

Auckland Council's development arm Eke Panuku is working on a business case for funding to pay for the track, which will be constructed on the site of the greyhound track.

 

An aerial shot of the Manukau Sport Bowl velodrome that was used to host events at the 1990 Commonwealth Games.An aerial shot of the Manukau Sport Bowl velodrome that was used to host events at the 1990 Commonwealth Games. Photo: LDR / Stephen Forbes

The Save Animals from Exploitation group's (SAFE) campaigns manager, Anna de Roo, said it was a huge win for both animals and the community.

 

"This is just another indication that the social licence of greyhound racing has well and truly expired. From our political leaders at the debating table, to now our local communities, the sentiment of New Zealanders is clear: Greyhound racing's time is up.

 

"New Zealand is one of only a handful of countries to legally allow commercial dog racing. Here, the industry is enormously unpopular with 74 percent of New Zealanders saying they would vote to ban greyhound racing in a referendum," she said.

 

De Roo said 40 percent of greyhounds in the latest racing season were injured.

 

Meanwhile, Greyhound Racing New Zealand's chief operating officer Liz Whelan has acknowledged that the masterplan for the venue has been adopted.

 

However, Whelan said the implementation dates were yet to be confirmed.

 

She said negotiations were continuing between Auckland Greyhound Racing Club and Auckland Council.

 

The council said its leasing staff were working with the club on moving the racing away from the stadium to make possible the track's development.

[Chief Stipe]

Just now, Chief Stipe said:

De Roo said 40 percent of greyhounds in the latest racing season were injured.

De Roo must use the statistical analytical approach as @Yankiwi or will you write to RNZ and demand a retraction/correction @Yankiwi?

Not the first time RNZ has reported inaccuracies.

[Yankiwi]

10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

De Roo must use the statistical analytical approach as @Yankiwi or will you write to RNZ and demand a retraction/correction @Yankiwi?

Not the first time RNZ has reported inaccuracies.

Sorry Chief, my initial focus was solely on rail contact, until you shifted that goalpost and brought the potential injuries from the contact into the equation, which I then widened the scope to suit your needs.

The RNZ debate is all yours.

[Yankiwi]

Where's the safety rail?

Was first supposed to be installed 9 years ago.

Now more recently, was supposed to be installed by 2 weeks ago.

Asking for the #1 dog here.

Since welfare is paramount & underpins everything they do, why are they racing on the track after identifying that Auckland had the most urgent need for a safety rail?

Words are cheap coming from GRNZ & that's one of their biggest problems.