mikeynz Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 January 3 Greymouth January 6. Kumara Jan 9 Reefton Seems logical enough. Dates 4 next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Three meetings in a week never ideal, and most trainers unlikely to start at all three, hokitika still out in the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 Last time it was Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday so this is probably better. And definitely better than nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just a look over the calendar, dont look any different than season just finishing but I'm not up with everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 11 hours ago, mikeynz said: And definitely better than nothing. That sums up NZTR attitude toward everything when it comes to smaller clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 Huey do you not think those dates are not good, what else would you have done ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 We're happy enough. Once they set them in the draft it is not worth wasting your time trying to change them as they won't. Just the world we live in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 If under 15.1 of the Standard Regulations for Race Meeting Regulations the Reefton club raised the stakes of each race by $5-$10K through sponsorship, community or trust funding you would be more than happy enough from the on flow of benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Special Agent said: If under 15.1 of the Standard Regulations for Race Meeting Regulations the Reefton club raised the stakes of each race by $5-$10K through sponsorship, community or trust funding you would be more than happy enough from the on flow of benefits. Doesn't always compute through to improved fields I have discussed that multiple time before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Reefton said: Doesn't always compute through to improved fields I have discussed that multiple time before No it doesn't. Programming - sequencing relative to available horses, track conditions all play a bigger part. Trainers also seem to have a perverse view of the world that the more money on offer the stronger the quality of the opposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/19/2023 at 6:50 PM, Shad said: Three meetings in a week never ideal, and most trainers unlikely to start at all three, hokitika still out in the cold. Does the Westland club still want meetings? Or are they winding up operations.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/22/2023 at 9:38 AM, Reefton said: We're happy enough. Once they set them in the draft it is not worth wasting your time trying to change them as they won't. Just the world we live in Are you going to have the same "amiable" chief stipe with you, or will they send someone who is not so hostile to the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Ludwig said: Does the Westland club still want meetings? Or are they winding up operations.? In sure they would, more than likely had the snub given their gifting of their assets before someone else got their hands on it, I believe they very in a good financial position, but stand to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 20 hours ago, Ludwig said: Are you going to have the same "amiable" chief stipe with you, or will they send someone who is not so hostile to the club? Buggered if I know But he hasn't heard the last of January 5th 2023 I can assure you of that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 21 hours ago, Ludwig said: Does the Westland club still want meetings? Or are they winding up operations.? Pretty much resigned to their fate and of course when you have no raceday the enthusiasm sooner disappears They have gifted their share of the gates to the other three clubs and, I think, are a committee of two now. Still generously sponsor the other three clubs each year though I think it is safe to say the Westland Racing Club is history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 22/05/2023 at 12:54 PM, Chief Stipe said: No it doesn't. Programming - sequencing relative to available horses, track conditions all play a bigger part. Trainers also seem to have a perverse view of the world that the more money on offer the stronger the quality of the opposition. In a properly-run 'tiered ' racing model that would be the case. But it isn't. The same horses plod round for fair stakes one day, crap stakes the next, with no ratings penalty differential. The best one can do is place horses where distance/track conditions/grade is appropriate and cross fingers that sometimes, the gods smile and the stakes are decent too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 15 hours ago, Reefton said: Buggered if I know But he hasn't heard the last of January 5th 2023 I can assure you of that. Go Reefton! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, curious said: Go Reefton! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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