Chief Stipe

About 32%. It is possible. You put your bet amount ($5) in the stake box and the system calculates the percentage. I think they round down so 15 combinations.

What about the Quaddie? It was $69,500.40.

I'm guessing the first 2000m of 2023 Cup was the fastest its ever been run. The winner put in a couple of 11.5 second splits between the 2600m and the 3000m. Many horses were gasping a long way out.

It's about 0.12 of a second every 200m. Anything under 3:19 is quick especially on the refurbished Flemington track. That said some trainers and jockeys have referred to the fast pace of yesterday's race. Ciaron Maher called it "hectic"!

In the top 5 fastest times in the last 30 years. The hurdlers couldn't go quick enough let alone stay.

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That's inconsistency.

What was McInerney's level?

None of those were in the first 4....woops first 5.

Yep. Thank you ball boys. Where are you @holy ravioli ?

Yahoo got the double. The first Caulfield-Melbourne Cup double since Ethereal!

I think they will run a fast time today. Strong wind up the straight.

YEP. Especially in the last 10.

But a small trace can mean nothing. Under that standard you could return a positive for any number of things after a night at a pub. BTW you can't recall because the RIB doesn't publish the levels. So rest easy your memory is still OK.

Anyone found the app slow? Cost me my dollar each way on The Map.

I'm surprised they are rated that. Mind you if you don't race often you don't have the opportunity to lose points. Most of them are pensioner's!

In saying that I've always liked exotic bets in the Cup. With every Ma and Pa Kettle have a go you can get some value.

I like Without A Fight. Have a soft spot for Vow and Declare.

What a terrible field for a $150k Grp3 - the Balmerino Stakes!

Are they running a pick 5?

Along with 1,999 others!!! FFS! Exactly!!! So why caste aspersions on Curtain? They didn't know that that was what they were purchasing nor for that matter what was actually in the bottles as they were MISLABELLED!!!! On the basis of what? He has opened himself up to litigation. Aren't you retrospectively applying knowledge that was obtained under investigation? They may have known Fishman but did any of them know what they were purchasing? If they did know then they could have purchased it cheaper somewhere else! So where is the evidence? Who is being dishonest? They may have administered something that was no better than lolly water! Gural is punishing people on the basis that they bought something that wasn't what it was said to be. There is no evidence that they used it or gained an advantage nor that what was contained in each of their bottles was EPO or thymosin. Hence NO AUTHORITIES have charged them and NO POSITIVES were returned. All those charges and convicted were convicted on the basis of committing fraud. Who knows Curtain may have even been duped. There are so many similarities with the Police involvement in INCA.

BUT WHERE ARE THE POSITIVES!!!!!!!!! The drugs identified in the multi-million dollar investigation are easily detectable!!! How many of the 2,000 on the client list were caught using the drugs in races?

Just thinking.....it would have been great to have seen overhead drone footage of Ben pushing out. I'm picking it wouldn't have looked as bad from overhead as it did head on. I wonder if the RIB bunker have added this footage to their arsenal of retrospectively checking races. Imagine the better view you'll get of whip wrist action!

That explains your All Star aspersions and focus. So how does/did Curtain get the stuff into New Zealand? How did it not show up in testing? There were 2,000 people on the list. Doesn't prove anything. You'd be surprised what mailing lists you'd be on!!!! You are looking for something that isn't there. I know the RIB aren't the perfect organisation but given the size of the industry in NZ do you really think they couldn't find something if it was there? However it does give fodder to the likes of @Archie Butterfly to peddle to make money meanwhile discrediting the industry that feeds him.

Yes but on the Turnwald case weren't the levels detected very high? The only way to stop environmental contamination is to continually test ALL staff and restrict access to EVERYONE. I've said it on the BOAY Thoroughbred and Harness forums that environmental contamination is the big elephant in the room given how widespread recreational drug use is. Especially with zero tolerances and the sophistication of drug testing. The RIB and the respective code adminstrations really have their heads in the sand. Gone are the days where you could have a piss on the sawdust at the back of the stable box.