Chief Stipe

Who is Steve Donovan other than an owner of Tiptronic? How many horses has he bought? Ellis probably got a bargain. One of the mares colts will be good, they've had experience with its full brother and would know what to look for. $625k will be a bargain price if he makes a stallion.

You tell us Joe. I assume you are talking about a colts comparison? As for Ellis. Owners keep coming back and they sell all their shares pretty quickly.

If you observe Ellis's buying pattern he spreads the risk and ends up with a balanced portfolio of colts and fillies.

According to you there is only one sale in Australasia worth buying from.

Savabeel 72% winners to starters. 1 in 10 win stakes races.

Maybe Ellis should have bought more at the Gold Coast. He has the best Stakes Winners strike rate of around 17%.

No the best answer is having the best tracks racing the best horses and a competitive betting product. Simple really. But we've squandered the best tracks and mothballing the best that are left.

What about minced rabbit?

Wouldn't a dog roll or a string of sausages tied to a lure be just as effective?

But @Brodie you scare them because unlike the BGP they know you have and will take them to the cleaners.

So the TAB won?

Don't know but the bookies sure were kind to them giving them lots of favours that the common punter doesn't get. @Brodie I'm sure would be ecstatic to be allowed to put $100,000 on. I note the Tote win pools were very small. Around $75k just before closing. I'd hope the Fixed Odds pools were significantly higher and that the bookies didn't take a bath.

So much for what? 🤔

I didn't make a claim about how many they would win. I asked a question. I did claim that Ellis has one of the highest stakes winners from purchases stats.

So what's odds are you offering?

No cut half the unnecessary work. That would account for 3,000 bureaucrats from MPI and MBIE. No point in privatising nothing work.

Yep sorry.

I'm sure Cambridge will give them a rent free option. Second thoughts probably not. They and the TAB/Trackside are still paying market rent to Windsor Park for the Parnell premises aren't they?

You left out "cut" as in tax cut! All the left come up with is take, take, take. Hopefully we will see a promise to slash the bureaucrats employed by Government AND by Racing. PS: I do recall predicting Ardern would be gone by February.

Anyone willing to bet that Te Akau doesn't take home most of the spoils at the KM Races this evening? David Ellis has an amazing comparative strike rate with his purchases.

Actually @Joe Bloggs and @nomates would be hard to please. Best Jockeys, best trainers and some of the best horses racing on a great surface for fantastic stakes. What more could you ask for? I guess Joe your wife is on to it.

So you can't get your yearlings into Karaka either?

I've seen some of the best breakers in NZ in both codes. When I bred and owned horses I made sure they went to the best. Cost more but saved money in the long run. None of those horses required head gear even though each had their own style that was outside what was considered the norm. Further we sent a horse back to a breaker after a behavioural problem developed. In my opinion needing to apply corrective gear AFTER breaking in by a good breaker and especially in later campaigns is due to physiological issues I.e. the horse is hurting somewhere. If a horse likes racing, is healthy and tries then it doesn't need head gear. "Training" a horse isn't just about getting it fit. Anyone dumb barstard can tie a pole on a horse neck to keep it straight.

Surely he is the wrong species and a tad old for "Daisy Dukes"?

Great recovery by the track. Really nice stakes on offer and close racing. Not such a......