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So the "Consultation" Phase has finished?

More employees? I only recognise one competent past Jockey on that list.

Looking at the weather forecast - nothing. Fine weather today and tomorrow with no wind.

You're kidding me? Are you saying that Kumara had more competitive fields and a fairer track on the Saturday than Ellerslie had on the Sunday?

Another big day at the Magic Millions Sale. Average now over $300k.

Take your blinkers off @Reefton. If as you say the following Committees dont have any influence on Tracks and Programming what is the point of having them?

Why? If the Sth Island is generating a greater share of revenue why is it doing so? The metrics being touted above are flawed.

I assume you are being sarcastic? I doubt Reefton could sustain those increases beyond 3 race meetings let alone sustain anymore racing on their track. Given that there are sunk costs and the realisation of fixed assets is not a quick process nor is the reinvestment of the eventual liquid assets into generating racing a quick process other questions should be asked. For example why was the Ellerslie figure down? Programming? Scheduling? Quality of the fields? You could hardly say that the quality of the fields at Reefton was considerably greater than Ellerslie. What IS clearly evident is that it isn't the location that drives revenue.

There's the nub or rub. The majority of posters are quick to put the boot and in some instances the knife into Te Akau. Yet look the other way for a more favoured trainer. All fair to have an opinion and as you know everyone can post on BOAY without fear or favour. If you bother to read what I've posted and put your bias to one side you'd find it is balanced. As for the Comic Dog you don't see me posting the gratuitous, obsequious syrup laden posts congratulating very Group One win. I didn't start the Topic about Pitman and his principles.

Who where the winners of the West Coast Circuit Bonus Series?

Your analogy isn't a good one. If for example the Government proposed tariffs on imported whitewear then Noel Leeming and Harvey Norman would work together.

But do you think the no whip option would reduce punter interest in NZ racing both domestically and internationally?

Well then @Pitman needs to look in the mirror has he dominates the Canterbury Programming and Track Committees. No doubt he has considerable influence on the rest of the South Island as well. Doesn't help that the Riccarton track can't sustain enough racing either.

My apologies - confirmation bias.... Then both Matamata AND the South Island have a fair beef over the compensation.

Back to this Thread Topic though. Ellis has a very valid point. In the decision even the Senior Stipendiary Steward Mr Williamson eludes to the ambiguity of the penalties. Hence they don't follow them exactly and make it up. In a court you would have solid grounds for appeal. Here are the rules and penalties that were published in September 2021. Most of you will know this but it isn't the RIB that writes the rule nor the penalty guidelines that is done by NZTR. The RIB just adjudicate on those rules.

It's just as hard to get there from Matamata.

I agree and stakeholders need to start showing some initiative and taking back some of the control they have lost. I do get annoyed with those that get insular and are quick to cut the tall poppy instead of getting on the phone and communicating.

Have you adjusted that increase to factor in the extra race this year? 9 last year - 10 this year.

Thinking about this a bit more - why the distinction between Matamata and Christchurch in terms of travel to Trentham? It's 500km by road from Matamata to Trentham. 336km by road from Christchurch to Picton - 64km ferry trip and then 30km up the Hutt motorway to Trentham. Total distance 430km. The Matamata horses travel further!!! Hardly zipping down!

Self-interest drives the industry. Why would you expect him to "generalise"? I note that no other trainer has joined in and formed a chorus. I note @Pitman in his self-interested bitch about Trentham compensation didn't generalise.

The MM averages are still heading upwards - the breeders will be pleased.

So where do you rate the Sydney Summer Yearling Sale compared to MM? What you are saying though is that the breeder gets a better return from the MM.

Why did you omit to post the turnover for Reefton?

Do you really expect Ellis to comment about other trainers issues? Then he'd get hammered for not minding his own business. Maybe affected trainers should all put their self-interest to one side for a moment and collectively work together to get some change.

Spent $7m so far at the sale which you call a wank. Annabel Neasham has spent $3.5m.