Chief Stipe

What I've found so far is that these clubs are all solvent and have low cost models of operation. They all have a decent amount of cash in the bank. You'd think if those at the coal face Owners, Trainers, Drivers didn't support these clubs then they'd be broke. ?

GORE HARNESS RACING CLUB INC BIZNET-DOCAMENCON-61347535.PDF

MARLBOROUGH HARNESS RACING CLUB INC BIZNET-DOCAMENCON-56902887.PDF

Waimate Trotting Club Inc. BIZNET-DOCAMENCON-53086132.PDF

I don't understand this rationale and it is being used by the Gallops administrators as well. If a Club and its team can keep their course going and Owners, Trainers and Drivers are willing to travel AND it doesn't cost HRNZ anything then argument is spurious at best.

Manawatu Harness Racing Club Inc. BC10064954586.PDF

Timaru Harness Racing Club Inc. BIZNET-DOCAMENCON-56085182.PDF

Forbury Park Trotting Club Inc. BIZNET-DOCAMENCON-56122508.PDF

Hi I've started collating the last published financial accounts for each of the Trotting/Harness Racing Clubs. First ones to be posted are for those that have lost race dates. I'll add more as I get time. Plus maybe some analysis. Cheers

I thought they had deals with pubs. Just like harness which owns a company that owns pubs with pokies. Also most of their Pokie revenue went to pay for the RIU operation. There are restrictions on what you can use the Pokie derived revenue for.

For those of you who didn't get the humour. I noticed a large number of road cones suddenly appear around the neighbourhood the last two days. I assume they too came to a place near you.

Hardly running out of ammo. More being produced by the same old same old crew. But if we had the half yearly report as has been the case for over 20 years we could have informed debate. Especially in this new era of transparency.

Your point?

In any case as I've posted before just because Bridges may have supported it doesn't mean I did.

We'd know if there was a half-yearly report. I bet you McKenzie isn't doing the job for nothing.

Then why didn't they start 11 months ago?

Yep the very people that could have helped them trade out of this mess they have cut off.

So? 5,000 people have died in New Zealand in 7 weeks. What's your point?

Wrong.

Can someone PM me or post the tracks/clubs that have been ditched as part of the new calendars? Gallops, Trots and Dogs. I don't have the time to work it out myself but would like to do an analysis on what really has been saved.

Yes and the local race meeting cost the Industry nothing because of community volunteers and sponsorship.

What is your point? What is the percentage of those deaths that are excess mortality? That is how many died over and above what the normal level of deaths would have been?

She did say that. I'm not going to connect the dots for you as you are obviously lazy and selective but do some deep research on these three organisations - Te Punaha Matatini, Motu.nz and Wigram Capital Investments. Arden definitely referred to 80,000 in one of her party political broadcasts at 1pm early on in this debacle. What's more, regardless of what model she did use, the fact is she ignored the Ministry of Health's advice which was we didn't need to go to Level-4. Further - no one in NZ has died from Covid-19 and no lives were saved because of Lockdown. However we are borrowing the largest amount of money this country has ever borrowed - over $100 billion. That's about 30 x what the USA has invested in research for a Covid-19 vaccine. Go figure!

Note at all. To enable your freedom of speech (free I might add) someone like myself needs to do work behind the scenes. So unlike yourself, obviously, I had to make a decision between rebutting your crap or greasing and oiling the cogs of BOAY.