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Why that? Would have thought Bound To Impress would be right up his alley

Dexter off soon to USA for a couple of months in two weeks. Blair wins second premiership in a row lol

What is your opinion Crosscodes?

Second in the Jewels so one would have to hope for a better season coming up. Therefore, I doubt retirement is coming as she as only had 14 starts. The question is whether they think there is enough racing for her here as a 4-year-old or as CrossCodes says, send her to Aussie.

Beragio true to form. The most incredible thing about it is the 11.10 win and 7.90 place tote odds on closing. Only went to 41FF too.

These recent posts just show the importance of getting information out there. Having all the information is the only way to have an informed opinion. I, for one, may have been too harsh on the lad.

Good man. Also, that 24ff is a joke. How Beragio could be offered at this price with The Buckeye Bullet at 1.70FF after a 5 length demolition of a trials field and about 5 other horses with ability way beyond his. That second he had was on the grass at Blenheim from memory on their shared card with gallops if I am correct. Now they think he will turn up to Addington and win after not racing for a year and a trial against these horses? OMG...honestly grow some balls TAB. Calling yourself bookmakers or oddsmakers is a joke.

My initial opinion was Rangatira was Kotare Hunter. Same wind-up style. Deadpan but pointed.

24ff and 5ff grab your attention? Just shows how tight the TAB are.

Instead of being antagonistic why don't you give your price first?

Unless you clash with the home of harness racing so Addington comes out a bit later at 6 pm. They must be flooded with those big bets at big odds at Alexandra Park.

He broke 7 out of 7 times when he first started. Now with Murray Edmonds whose horses are not renowned for their speed. They must see something.

Can't be bothered with all this shit.

Thanks Fartoomuch. I am sure you will be on here reading this. I don't respect you or what you say so water off a ducks back for me. Glad to be lumped in with flag. He's alright. Just like this site. You stay where you with your 'mates' and things will be fine. Good luck tipping those winners at forbury where only people who have no self respect bet. Even you will put self respect aside to try and save the harness section of RC. Personally. I love forbury. Just for the record, we didn't try to run the site we just gave opposing views to you and your buddies. Maybe you are the one with control issues.

Seem quite positive to me. Numbers 1 and 6 seem good moves to me. Any thoughts from those with a vested interest? OFFICIAL NOTICE Ratings Handicapping System Approved Changes 1. Winners to receive a standard eight points Race winners will receive eight points as standard, regardless of the stake of the race. Handicappers’ discretion is available to award less than eight points for a win, while other concessions may also apply. The condition of 10 points for races over $10,000 has been removed. 2. Removal of minimum rating for race winners The minimum Rating of R52 for race winners has been removed for both non-win (MR) horses and previous race winners (R). 3. Maiden winners’ rating Any horse having its first win cannot be rated higher than R55 for any win up to and including an advertised stake of $20,000. Any horse winning its first race with an advertised stake of $20,001 or greater can be rated up to a maximum of R58. 4. Threshold increase for 2YO and 3YO concessions Concession thresholds for 2YO & 3YO horses have been lifted to $20,000 from the previous $14,999. 5. Higher Winners Rating Matrix A ‘Higher Rating Winners Matrix’ will form the basis of Rating horses rated R70 and above. This Matrix is designed to give connections more certainty as to the points their successful horses will receive. 6. Re-rating of returning or out-of-form racehorses Horses returning from an elongated break (four months or more) may be eligible for re-rating by the Handicappers, upon application from connections, along with horses identified by the Handicappers as being Rated as uncompetitive or unfairly (relative to others) at season’s end. The Handicappers’ recommendations will then be considered by the Ratings Review Committee. Note: The updated Guiding Principles of the Ratings System, along with the Higher Rated Winners Matrix, are available online at hrnz.co.nz in the “Industry Information” section under “Official Documents”. There will be no retrospective handicapping, excepting those instances covered by the Guiding Principles.

Sorry, Brodster. I can't follow. I don't' know the whole story.

Why not? He is entitled to defend himself.

That will all come out in the report. Will be a good read.

What has Molloy done? Is this the boorish one?

If I may, Basil has only stated his opinion on Bronson. An opinion I agree with. It is 'bad news' because it reflects on harness racing. Molloy is not part of this debate so not sure why Basil needs to comment on that. Wagons are indeed circling so I am out of this until the report comes out and some of us can finally hear the other side of the story. I presume the decision will see Bronson will be let off lighter than a dodgy cobalt reading?

December 1st to 15th.

Basil has, but you will not supply the information despite him asking you.

can you screenshot it or copy onto here so we can see it. It is in the public domain.

From the ODT. Prominant female trainers and drivers have denied speculation the New Zealand harness racing industry is a sexist workplace. The treatment of women in harness racing has come under scrutiny recently after Canterbury junior driver Bronson Munro was charged with verbally abusing two female drivers during and after a race at Forbury Park last month. Southland trainer-driver Kirstin Barclay, Waikato trainer-driver Nicky Chilcott and Canterbury junior driver Kimberly Butt said New Zealand harness racing provided a fair and safe working environment. Butt, in her fifth season of driving, said she had not been disadvantaged in the sport because she was a woman. ``I don't think there is any disadvantage being a female and I honestly never experienced anything to say that it is.'' Barclay said she did not think sexism was prevalent in harness racing and that the southern industry was a welcome and safe place to work. ``I look forward to going to the races and catching up with everyone, especially in Southland because everyone is pretty much like family. Everyone gets along and there is always someone there for a laugh and a yarn and they just want to help you out.'' Chilcott said harness racing now provided a fair and equitable workplace. However, that was not the case when she started in the industry in 1993. ``Back then it was really hard, it really was. I really struggled to get accepted and used to cop crap left, right and centre. ``But now, I personally don't have any trouble and think it is pretty even.'' Chilcott has been a pioneer for females in harness racing. She is one of the country's most successful female trainers and the only woman to drive 500 winners in New Zealand. Abusive remarks were thrown at Chilcott on the track in the 1990s, but she was determined to push on. ``It was hard. The guys on the track, you would cop heaps of crap like `Get back to the kitchen where you belong'. ``I would be lying if I didn't say I didn't have moments when I would ball my eyes out thinking `Is this all worth it?''' Barclay and Butt said verbal altercations were part of being a modern driver. ``I think it is part and parcel of any sport. In the heat of the moment things are said,'' Barclay said. ``In my career there have probably been five occasions when something has been said and I have thought `Stuff you' and I would give it back. ``But I would give it back as good as the boys would. ``Most of the time if I have been dished up on the track it would be if I had done something wrong and it would be no different to what has been dished up to anyone else.'' Butt said it was natural for drivers racing at high speeds vying for positions in a race to air their frustrations. ``Everyone has done that with someone at some point and I'd say what happens on the track stays on the track,'' she said ``It is one of those games where you are vying for positions or wanting the lead or something like that and you have to be aggressive.'' Barclay and Butt said there could be rare cases in harness racing in which it could be an advantage to be a female driver. Those cases included the advantage a horse could get from a lightweight woman driver on a rain-affected grass track. In some cases horses were more inclined to run favourably for female drivers than male drivers.

But you can't.