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who is responsible for overseeing the 50 mill spend?... or is it a case of who you know, and not, what you know? everyone is laughing and who really gives a fuck ! as long as your on the payroll.

I Agree , and Germanicus kicked back well to get 3rd ... IMHO only...maybe a please explain ? and public airing of process ! I get peeved when races "appear", "set up"...punters won,t tolerate it too long, before moving on.

https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/47495/6/Race-Detail.aspx click link above ...scroll down and click video. make up ya own mind !

I thought I will have a gander at this...just out of curiosity ! To start off with... it,s not my style to back $1.40 shots (especially in Oz) On this occasion, I reckon George got it smack bang correct and Owen Patrick done the right thing in not slaughtering his mount. https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/47495/6/Race-Detail.aspx

Mardi, I reckon as long as Yourself and Thomas can stop exchanging personal insults , and be civil, there is room for all !

AT LEAST I GET A LAUGH ON HERE...SHIT YOUR A CARD...2 OF SPADES !

Whatever Einstein, Each to their own... I obviously take a more sensible, less scientific approach... WHEN / WHERE DO YOU PUT UP SELECTIONS PRE RACE ? I remember questioning VC,s 10k betting logic? in the "value" thread, and the fact, he seemed to be on a downward slide and may be at the front of the next Gamblers Anonymous class," confessing his sins"....(as a joke) You sprung to his defence ... notice the thread dropped to 3rd page now, seems defending the 10k pool, and time involved updating bets probably became unmanageable. In another post I mentioned the value of barrier draws at certain tracks over different distances... Again you suggested i was dreaming and making un - substantiated claims / supporting data... Next day...inside barrier / front runners dominant Hope we dont meet in a bar somewhere...wont be much to talk about..MARTIANS MAYBE...LOL

totally agree...makes for good debate,... we don,t all agree on everything... I agreed with some of Thomas,s picking criteria and suggested a staking plan , as well as Portfolios suggestion, during the 101 thread , I was POO HOO,ED by Mardi and he chose to suggest I join Thomas in some of his weird idea punting. HERE YA GO MARDI...I,m prepared to have a crack at making more than you...LOL...(Thomas may want in too) (theoretically) on paper...(no balls required) Saturdays only...tell me the bank and bet values.

must admit i thought ...who the F^^^s John Mckirrick when I read the thread heading Flagship. Yep...picture paints a thousand words , and he sprung to mind (OE 25 odd years back). But not fair to edit a picture like that LOL

Yeah, I know trainers and owners who like to make sure they are given to girls as sport-horses. To be brutally honest,those pet-less, vegetarian protesters would have been better advised standing outside Parliament...demanding fresh water to drink,clean waterways to swim and easy solutions to grocery plastic bag & recycling alternatives

agree Dark Beau...this is a racing discussion forum...enjoyed by many including myself. NOT a political or industrial dispute, with SIDES... it is the best competition site and I hope it remains the best discussion site . Open friendly debate please

1 winner ea. yesterday V. C Good win mate. (no excuses) Punters graveyard. I went undefeated in the Canes recent comp win and extended the picket fence last week. Might be due a spell...LOL

Agree Hesi... everyone to their own view... agree or disagree Healthy discussion ...BUT No abuse, shit slinging or back-stabbing... leave it out = Better site

SPOT ON FRED... I have read 101 from the very start Mardigrais .(out of interest) it seems You, Curiuos and VCI do extensive race analysis...based on ??? ..(JOKE)...funded by grand-ma,s inheritance. I have won last 2 tipping comps and would have beaten the 3 of you...based on laying / staking plan / f/f win / place. And like Thomas, that includes using barrier draws and C/D stats to narrow down selection , among other criteria. You down-cried Portfolio on the bottom of page 6 for his punting selection process ( maybe why he doesn,t post any more) (joke)...(Value Thread)... stick to the Dogs VC...Staking Plan...easier returns. Come on Thomas...not so hard on those aussies...Pleeeaaase. LOL

Yeah, you got me fair and square Mardigras...can,t tell ya ! As I"ve said mate, She"s more of an interest these days... Yep, I can,t stick to a system, and only bet small % exotics (beautiful invention) i like trebles etc. Dont lose much ...just a time waster LOL

??? you missed your calling mate, you should have been a politician. 1..... As long as VC keeps posting his betson the Value post (not that i can understand them or the reasoning)... but the total seems to creep down. 2...I realise Thomas has engaged in a shit slinging match with you guys ...BUT... I actually agree with some of his methods in selecting winners and employ them myself .

Nah given racecafe, and pix a miss last month...wasnt worth all the study.. won 2 months picking comp in a row..not being a smart are ...but took too long. LIKE BOAY

Just my opinion ...but Baz was ok, good in fact, but siding with (curious and Mardigas) endeavour to support VC (nothing against VC) in his quest to squander away 10k ...and their abuse of Thomas...whose statistic form study actually had some substance...(apart from Trentham today...(they are probably still on the piss)...having backed Nanas ole favourite housie no,s.LOL

OK DUDES...CEASE FIRE. I,m outa here !...I,m not getting into a cat-fight with ya Mardigras...hit Thomasas up 4 that !

ignore it at your peril mardigra...get on da merry go round... You,d be laughing @ tauranga after 4 races

Whatever curious...you carry on your way mate...give us a yell if you need a cane (just joking)... I factor barrier draws into the mix when making my selections...good for value. especially @ certain tracks...todays racing @ Tauranga being one of em ! But then so is Hastings where I,m from, as is Ellerslie and many other leader bias tracks... not saying other horses can,t and don,t win.

Racenet Oz ,Racebase NZ, and the 2 mentioned above will actually give you barrier starting positions and the start/win stats for each distance on firm/good/soft/heavy tracks. (to a varying useful / correct degree) Hence they are very useful for summing up your horses theoretical chances in combination with the course Bias (e.g leader bias on a front-running favoured track when you have an on pacer / leader)...say for arguments sake...sprint ...barrier 1,2 & 3) ANYWAY...NO CONSISTENCY OF INFO ACROSS ALL SITES !...OFFICIAL NZTR OR TAB STATS WOULD BE NICE! I,m not telling ya which one/s I use Madigras...YOU DO THE RESEARCH ! ...LOL

yeah Ive noticed no sets of stats the same...mmm they are a good lead though if track bias strong

Howzit Hedley? Go on the new www.tab.co.nz homepage... top left hand corner you will see TAB then on its right, Racing,...click on racing next page appears...under Racing...left to right...(Todays Racing,results,futures,challenges pdf form) ... click pdf form go to meeting you want ... i personally click A4 colour scroll down for an on - course style racebook with L for left handed and R for right handed stats !(NZ ANYWAY LOL)... What I,m after is the Barrier stats ...Where do I find those?...(can,t be that hard)

I have met some of the most intelligent people whom lack the commonsence to find there way out of a wet paper bag. OOPS I spelt new wrong Baz... and you spelt sense and their wrong ! AND...if the reported 50 mill. for these changes is correct (I hope it has opened up opportunities , and Winstone has a handle on the returns it creates) Because a mill. a week, spread across all races in stakes would return disgruntled owners to the game, with an upward spiraling effect on the rest of the Industry