the galah

Well thats a good question. I think there was a definite drop off in performance,and combine that with a strange b williamson drive that always had tetrick driven outside its comfort zone,then you have your answer.

Craig ferguson 200 driving wins. Never been a real fan,but thats a very commendable achievement. Also he seems to be able to get the best out of those he trains. Another good win today with the kilkelly owned chuckles.

Well the tetrick form didn't last long. A long last today.Its fruitless attack for the lead seemed to go on forever in todays race,but once the driver gave that strategy away it stopped a walk. I wonder whether it will race again from that stable?

Still means many owners support him. I don't know how accurate the peter profit website is,although it does have quite a following. from what i have read. It does tend to sensationalise some stories.For example a recent headline was lance armstrong and flo jo return to training,with a photo of the nz trainers. And it often has stories on someone known as dodgy turbo Trainor.

I thought i would google ben yole to get more information on what some appear be suggesting. What comes up are several articles on the peter profit website. I'm not a subscriber,so could only read the headlines of the stories,but there are many that have been written on that website,several this year. How true they are ,i don't know. But here is a typical headline from one of the stories "the tasmanian authorities fiddle a tune of screaming horses,gunshots,chainsaws and barking dogs. While all around them harness racing burns." Others refer to yole as chainsaw and refers to how he prepares dogs meals. Sounds like a Four Corners story waiting to happen that could have similar ramifications for the harness industry to that of the live baiting story. Sounds like industry leadership over there are asleep at the wheel. Yet,as i have pointed out ,this fella has many owners,many of them familiar names from other states.

Good to hear as regards yours. Fair enough.Sounds like you think yole may treat his horses like they are just a commodity.Yet,he still gets the most support from owners who race horses in tasmania. So what does that say?

It may be realistic of how some owners/trainers handle things, but of course its not accurate to generalise like that. Is that how you viewed the horses you used to train?

Looking at the ownership he seems to own,or have a share in 15-20 of them. So you could conclude that a large number of outside owners view him as the only trainer worth supporting in tasmania. So why do the bulk of owners support just the one trainer? If you could answer that then you may be able to draw conclusions. But your right when you suggest the betting public will rightly or wrongly have a perception as regards integrity,and that is always a major factor when punter support of support of tasmanian harness racing is considered,which can only lead to a decline. Thats why a few on here used to point the obvious negatives when the all stars had so many in the age group races. Its like the greyhounds here. In the central districts here you have the one kennel which has been the centre of allegations of live baiting,which they failed to prove,often having 3/4 of the field. Who bothers betting on that.its a sign of the beginning of the end.(i sound like brodie,so i must be on the money)

I don't see this as a woke moment. It just seems to be addressing an area that has been lacking previously. As an example. A month or two ago a new poster on here asked a question along the lines of what union should someone go to if they are working in the racing industry and had an employment issue they needed help with,and also asked what union represented those who worked in stables. Yet no one had an answer for that poster. Racing is unique industry,with its own unique issues,and together with the common issues experienced in all other industries it should have someone specialized who people can turn to for advice,or for guidance,or who can liaise with an appropriate person on peoples behalf.Its something that should have been addressed earlier in my opinion. So i see this as a good decision.

Are you commenting on what he said,or just expressing a dislike of him with no current material to use? Can you give some detail of what it was that you see as jekyll and hyde. And by the way,do you think hes wrong to say nz shouldn't look to change its name to aotearoa.

Shame no video available,but in the last race at redcliffe last night they had two false starts. After the first false start the field followed the mobile around,and the starter had them in a perfect line as he let them go at the 2040m start point. However there was a problem,the race was over 1780m,not 2040m. A couple of horses did begin fast,but like the rest of the field were then heavily restrained. Another false start was called as they went past the winning post,with the mobile parked on the outside fence. Unfortunately when the race did finally take place,the earlier exertions took its toll on some horses in the race as it was a spread out finish of tired horses.

Dunn's got class.

So they late scratched a horse who was standing back from the tapes of its own accord ,because the horse beside it had slightly taken its line as they said go. So in the next race,why was shifty not late scratched. Surely if there was some consistency he would have been as Maui clearly was in the process of moving outwards when they said go,which resulted in interference. My point is whether a horse is late scratched seems to lack consistency. You could point out numerous horses that this happens to every race day.Does it only apply to favorites?

Yes i watched that. The stipes over there have opened an inquiry and adjourned it.I would imagine a long holiday coming. From what i've seen of her driving,i think it was just a dumb as drive,and she was actually trying. I've seen a lot of her driving,and she would have to rate in the worst 2 or 3 tactically over there. If you follow queensland harness racing it would probably pay to follow her horses once they put her out. She must have had a break a month or so ago as all her horses came into form when she wasn't driving,but its gone back to shaking your head stuff now shes back. I actually did back one she drove at redcliffe that day,pacific coin and it happened to win,but even that one should have won a lot easier. Cheddar made betta is one that would win as soon as she gets a holiday.

You have a good memory karrots. Yes i did back it,was an ideal race for it,although also backed gliding bye in the same race.So a nice profit without it being too much as the price it only paid $4.70. I think katherine in the last today is the one to back. Its much better handicapped today,so lets hope its driven to take advantage of that. Also jimmy cannon looks a winner if he goes away,but that is a risk given his manners. Maybe the home track might help like last time he raced down there. Gammalite said he was having a wee break while doing jury service.

Andiamo. Failed to be competitive yet again,4th time in a row. Finally given a warning,but how is this horse not stood down? Its had more breaks than a 15th storey jumper yet still can line up without having to trial.

That is a relevant point. Whether she couldn't or wasn't restraining is unclear.But compare it to the horses that ran 3rd and 4th and were beside it when it started galloping,it lost no ground for 90% of its gallop.

No,but what relevance does that have to my point even if i had. There wasn't even an inquiry. Thats the thing i can't get over. How can they confirm it straight away. You can guarantee they will put something like it galloped 149.999999 metres in the stipe report now i have raised it on here, but the video doesn't lie.

Eillish hall clearly gallops for over 150m shortly after the start. You only have to look at the track markings to see that.The rule is you can only gallop for 150m. Whats going on. This wasn't even close. Its there for anyone to watch. Its not like it was trotting rough. It was in a full blown gallop. What competent stipe could not see that. That decision would have to be as incompetent as i have ever seen. Its so obvious,yet they missed it.

The topic is about blue september which is specific to male drivers. no blue horses.

Your view of the cameron drive is fair enough,like some i just don't agree.As i have said earlier,hes a driver i've always had confidence in,still do. I think hes always out there to win.No ones said hes not. You do highlight how lucky we are to at this point in time to have such a high level of integrity within the sport. It hasn't come without some feathers being ruffled, but from licence holders to those who oversee enforcement, things are pretty good. Lets hope they can be maintained.

Banks peninsula have just announced an all male race at their up coming meeting,with the intention of highlighting this cause. They will have 6 of the 10 driver ambassadors competing,but have shown good sense to have only the 1 in the blue colours,and another in the white prostate colours. The rest will wear the trainers colours. This is a good promotion,and well thought out by those who have arranged it.

I did watch B barnes on sabrage. I also followed his price on the tab ff and betfair. He was a noticeable drifter at different stages. I guess the tab had not received the support his form said it should get,and on betfair some were happy to lay him at 6 and 7 to 1. So that tells me punters either didn't do the form,or they were not surprised when the horse give up a nice position on the outside,and instead went 3 back the fence,with the leader having worked overtime for the front. He's very average tactically,so who knows what he was thinking. Idon't think we can sure with him.He drives his share of winners. I just happened to have one bet at menagle while i waited to watch an albion park race. The hot favorite,a j grimson trained horse driven by c hart handed up the lead to a j trainor(grimsons regular driver) 2nd favorite. Well the parked horse was doing a nice job and keeping the hot favorite boxed in,that was until trainor turned the leaders head outwards and steered he horse out noticeably. And through came the favorite to win. How does anyone bet on racing at menagle and not notice what they get up to. The above is one of the main reasons harness racing is in decline over there. Self sabotage.

So lets just recap for you,chief exaggerator. So j teaz explained that the number of drives a driver has is one of the key considerations when penalty is decided. He explained ,because Cameron has few drives,the penalty may be as much as 3 months. I pushed the like thing on that post because it explained the reasoning behind penalty lengths. I had earlier suggested he should get 2 months,but also said D ferguson got 3 days for a similar drive. So that to you became j teaz and the galah demanding 3 to 6 months,and you posted that's what we said. What a plonker. And who's schumacher and weaver? Have you been reading the stipes reports from germany or england to find something to bolster your failing argument.

Maybe you explain your comment first,because you seem to be on both sides of the argument.Seems to be the start of another merry go round.