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100% with ya... I think this race reflects how now a days there is more depth in the filly races, what with most top males being brought by overseas interests and then the ever present agent looking to get any horse that looks like having ability. It will be interesting to see the market
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what odds that last seasons 2 yr old of the year wins a race? ps, I can report, its been a few seasons since I've been this Up for a NZ meeting! 'we' have Wingatui the next day, oncourse.. lol, I hope I back up well!!
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126 noms, 4 NZ trained, only one for James Cummings 1. Absurde (FR, Willie Mullins) 2. Adelaide River (IRE, Kris Lees) 3. Age Of Sail (GB, Kris Lees) 4. Ahuriri (NZ, Chris Waller) 5. Alegron (Bjorn Baker) 6. Almairac (IRE, Cliff Brown) 7. Ardakan (GB, Ciaron Maher) 8. Arrest (IRE, John & Thady Gosden) 9. Athabascan (FR, John O'Shea & Tom Charlton) 10. Aurora's Symphony (Symon Wilde) 11. Balance Play (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 12. Bankers Choice (NZ, Michael Moroney & Glen Thompson) 13. Basilinna (NZ, Emma-Lee & David Browne) 14. Bear On The Loose (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 15. Berkshire Breeze (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 16. Birdman (IRE, Chris Waller) 17. Brayden Star (GB, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 18. Buckaroo (GB, Chris Waller) 19. Changingoftheguard (IRE, Kris Lees) 20. Circle Of Fire (GB, Ciaron Maher) 21. Cleveland (IRE, Kris Lees) 22. Coco Sun (Tony & Calvin McEvoy) 23. Convener (FR, Ciaron Maher) 24. Dashing Duchess (NZ, Symon Wilde) 25. Delius (GB, Jean-Claude Rouget) 26. Denmark (GB, Chris Waller) 27. Deny Knowledge (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 28. Dillian (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 29. Divus Romulus (IRE, Nick Ryan) 30. Don't Doubt Dory (Julien Welsh) 31. Dunleer Lad (Amy Small) 32. El Bodegon (IRE, Chris Waller) 33. Eliyass (FR, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 34. Emissary (GB, Michael Moroney & Glen Thompson) 35. Etna Rosso (IRE, Chris Waller) 36. Fancy Man (IRE, Annabel Neasham & Rob Archibald) 37. Fawkner Park (IRE, Annabel Neasham & Rob Archibald) 38. Firestorm (NZ, Chris Waller) 39. Foxy Cleopatra (Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 40. Francesco Guardi (IRE, Chris Waller) 41. Future History (GB, Ciaron Maher) 42. Gear Up (IRE, Annabel Neasham & Rob Archibald) 43. Good Oil (NZ, Andrew Forsman) 44. Grosvenor Square (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 45. Haaracaine (IRE, Nick Ryan) 46. Harbour Wind (IRE, Dermot Weld) 47. Hipop De Loire (FR, Willie Mullins) 48. Horrifying (NZ, Lindsey Smith) 49. Illinois (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 50. Immediacy (NZ, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 51. Interpretation (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 52. Jan Brueghel (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 53. Just Fine (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 54. Kalapour (IRE, Kris Lees) 55. Karburan (FR, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 56. Kinesiology (GB, Jessica Harrington) 57. Knight's Choice (John Symons & Sheila Laxon) 58. Kovalica (NZ, Chris Waller) 59. Land Legend (FR, Chris Waller) 60. Le Don De Vie (GB, Ciaron Maher) 61. Lionel (GB, Ciaron Maher) 62. Magical Zoe (IRE, Henry De Bromhead) 63. Mahrajaan (USA, Shaune Ritchie & Colm Murray) 64. Manzoice (Chris Waller) 65. Mare Of Mt Buller (Chris Waller) 66. Medatsu (NZ, Chris Waller) 67. Middle Earth (GB, Ciaron Maher) 68. Military Mission (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 69. Mission Of Love (John Symons & Sheila Laxon) 70. Molly Bloom (NZ, Chris Waller) 71. Mostly Cloudy (IRE, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 72. Muramasa (Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 73. Nereus (NZ, Shaune Ritchie & Colm Murray) 74. New Endeavour (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 75. Night Sparkle (IRE, Andrew Balding) 76. Okita Soushi (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 77. Onesmoothoperator (USA, Brian Ellison) 78. Pennyweka (NZ, Ciaron Maher) 79. Place Du Carrousel (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 80. Point King (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 81. Point Lonsdale (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 82. Poptronic (GB, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 83. Positivity (NZ, Andrew Forsman) 84. Post Impressionist (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 85. Promises Kept (Ciaron Maher) 86. Quantum Cat (USA, Chris Waller) 87. Que Tempesta (IRE, Ben, Will & JD Hayes) 88. Red Aces (Nick Ryan) 89. Relentless Voyager (GB, Andrew Balding) 90. Riff Rocket (Chris Waller) 91. Royal Champion (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 92. Royal Patronage (FR, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 93. Royal Supremacy (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 94. Saint George (GB, Ciaron Maher) 95. Sayedaty Sadaty (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 96. Sea King (GB, Harry Eustace) 97. Sea What I See (IRE, Danny O'Brien) 98. Sentimental Flame (Travis Doudle) 99. Serpentine (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 100. Shaiyhar (IRE, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 101. Sharp 'N' Smart (NZ, Graeme & Deborah Rogerson) 102. Shonan Bashitto (JPN, Naosuke Sugai) 103. Sir Lucan (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 104. Strathtay (NZ, Chris Waller) 105. Suizuro (Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 106. The Equator (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 107. The Euphrates (GB, Aidan O'Brien) 108. The Map (Dan Clarken & Oopy MacGillivray) 109. Think 'N' Fly (David Noonan) 110. Trust In You (NZ, Bruce Wallace & Grant Cooksley) 111. Uncle Bryn (GB, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 112. Unusual Legacy (NZ, Chris Waller) 113. Up And Under (FR, Chris Waller) 114. Valiant King (GB, Chris Waller) 115. Vauban (FR, Willie Mullins) 116. Via Sistina (IRE, Chris Waller) 117. Waltham (GB, Matthew Smith) 118. Warmonger (NZ, Mick Price & Michael Kent Jr) 119. Warp Speed (JPN, Noboru Takagi) 120. Way Up High (Dan O'Sullivan) 121. Whisky On The Hill (GB, Michael Moroney & Glen Thompson) 122. Without A Fight (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 123. Zardozi (James Cummings) Read all news by
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Exciting! now for some serious study to be done....
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pardon! 👀 ps. filly's race looks the most exiting race of the day
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yes please! wouldn't it be great if we look back on this seasons G1's that they played out on true tracks! I live in hope....
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recommendations from M Report... 6 years on
Murray Fish replied to Murray Fish's topic in Galloping Chat
the Offical take on the M... NZTR Applauds Messara Report Recommendations New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR) has welcomed the findings of the Messara Report into the state of thoroughbred racing in New Zealand. “It’s time for change. We believe this report will create a blueprint for a thriving thoroughbred industry,” NZTR Chairman, Dr Alan Jackson, said. “While our Board has yet to consider the report in detail, the major recommendations are in line with NZTR’s views and it is reassuring to have those policies verified by an independent and expert voice. “But implementing the report will still require a considerable amount of work and investment,” Jackson said. “We need to work with the Government, the New Zealand Racing Board (NZRB) and the Racing Industry Transition Agency to ensure that this opportunity is not wasted. “We are confident that racing has a bright future in New Zealand but real change and brave leadership will be required if we are to achieve the report’s target of doubling prize money. “We are at the cross-roads in terms of sustainability and we need to move quickly. It’s a heavily regulated industry and it is vital that any recommended changes to the Racing Act are put in place as soon as practicable, to allow each Code to achieve their potential. “The current wagering business model is under severe competitive pressure, and we need additional income streams and reduced costs if thoroughbred racing’s share is to grow.” NZTR endorsed the Messara Report recommendation that the NZRB outsources much of the TAB’s commercial operations. “This is something NZTR has been advocating for some time,” Jackson said. Multiple pieces of work, which NZTR had been involved with or undertaken, had shown that an outsourcing arrangement would provide significant financial gains. “This is one way of overcoming a lack of scale, which has made it increasingly difficult for the NZ TAB to operate in what is now a highly competitive wagering market.” The argument for outsourcing had also been strengthened by changes to the international regulatory environment, which had not been anticipated at the time of the NZRB’s current strategy. NZTR also welcomed the recommendations in the Messara Report on synthetic tracks and racing venues. “NZTR has been undertaking its own venue review and has come to similar conclusions,” Jackson said. “While there will always be a place for each club, it has been obvious for some time that the industry cannot sustain the current number of venues. “Infrastructure spending needs to be lifted. Many of our strategic tracks require significant investment but if we attempt to retain the current number of venues, there is a risk that the infrastructure spending will be spread too thinly. “Synthetic tracks will play a key role in providing consistent and reliable surfaces and will ease the pressure on the main turf tracks. “The recommendations in the Messara report are a pathway to a major uplift in our sector’s economic performance and contribution to New Zealand,” Jackson said. “But there is a lot of detail to consider and we are pleased that the Government has pledged to consult further with the industry. “Our sport has had a significant economic and social impact on New Zealand. It sustains more than 14,000 full-time equivalent jobs, has over 55,000 participants and generates more than $1.6 billion in value-added contribution to the New Zealand economy. “The thoroughbred code, alone, has 16,000 owners, 3700 breeders and 1000 trainers and generates more than 9000 FTE jobs, plus volunteers.” -
I wonder if this sort of thing contradicts re Closer Economic Relations (CER)
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recommendations from M Report... 6 years on
Murray Fish replied to Murray Fish's topic in Galloping Chat
The proposed 28 remaining venues are: • Ellerslie • Matamata • Te Aroha • Pukekohe • Te Rapa* • Te Awamutu* • Tauranga • Ruakaka • Taupo • Te Teko • Awapuni • Trentham • Hastings • Otaki • Wanganui • New Plymouth • Waverley • Tauherenikau • Gisborne • Blenheim • Riccarton Park • Ashburton • Wingatui • Ascot Park Invercargill • Kumara • Cromwell • Waikouaiti • Riverton -
recommendations from M Report... 6 years on
Murray Fish replied to Murray Fish's topic in Galloping Chat
Tracks to close • Dargaville • Avondale • Thames • Rotorua • Wairoa • Stratford • Hawera • Waipukurau • Woodville • Reefton • Greymouth • Hokitika • Motukarara • Timaru • Kurow • Oamaru • Waimate • Omakau • Winton • Gore -
· Shared with Public RECOMMENDATIONS 1. Reduce the number of existing thoroughbred racing venues in New Zealand over the next 6 years by 20, from 48 to 28 venues, and establish Cambridge as a new synthetic track racing and training venue within 1 year, so making a total of 29 venues. Sell all freehold racecourse land of the closed venues with the proceeds to accrue to NZTR. Maintain racecourses in all regions of New Zealand where racing is currently conducted. Not require any Race Clubs to close but encourage them to race at another venue or merge with another Club. 2. Significantly improve the racing and facilities infrastructure at all remaining tracks over the next 6 years and build 3 synthetic racing and training tracks (including Cambridge) over the next 3 years, at an estimated total cost of about $190 million. 3. Fund all the proposed capital expenditure by the sale of surplus freehold racecourse land, grants from the Provincial Growth Fund for the synthetic tracks and co-funding by some Race Clubs. Clubs racing at retained venues (or NZTR as per recommendation 5 below) should also be required to sell any surplus freehold land holdings to help co-fund infrastructure investment. 4. Build an exceptional new racing and training venue in the Waikato within the next 8 to 10 years at an estimated cost of at least $110 million and then close and sell the Te Rapa, Cambridge and Te Awamutu racecourses to fund the development. There would then be 27 thoroughbred venues racing in New Zealand. 5. To allow for recommendations 1 to 4 to be implemented, amend the Racing Act 2003 and any other relevant legislation to provide for the vesting in NZTR of the ownership of freehold racecourse land and other net assets of Race Clubs. This would allow NZTR, if it decided not to issue licences to a Race Club/s to hold any race meetings at a venue, to then take possession of the Race Club/s freehold racecourse land and sell the land with the proceeds being used to benefit the entire thoroughbred racing industry. The proposed amendments to the Racing Act 2003 should also facilitate the ability of NZTR to negotiate loans, secured by the freehold racecourse land, to fund infrastructure investment before the freehold land of the closed venues is sold. 6. To introduce a simplified 3 Tier structure for New Zealand thoroughbred racing and a simplified Prizemoney Matrix that will provide for about $110 million of prizemoney (up from $53.7 million in 2016/17 and an estimated $59.4 million in 2017/18), including 6th to 10th prizemoney, subject to the implementation of the other recommendations in this report. All races at the same meetings to have the same minimum prizemoney whether they be an Open Handicap or a Maiden race. 7. To introduce the measures described to reinforce the importance of good corporate governance practices by Race Club controlling Boards or Committees, to improve the Race Club management skills of CEOs and senior staff and to lift the NZTR minimum acceptable standards for racecourses in terms of the presentation of racing tracks, training tracks and facilities infrastructure. Increased attention should also be given to ensuring the adequate training of all Race Club staff and, in particular, track maintenance personnel.
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ummm, a provocateur! pokes and prods! on getting a response! Cries 'oh poor me'. It's always amusing to surmise whom a @TAB For Ever or a @Doomed might be, in person? Back in the early 90's, in Wellington Region, there was a thriving little Bullitinboard scene, 'we' organised a get together. 50 turned up! I think about 42 actually didn't know 1 other person, though knew via the Board! A very eclectic lot, heavily male! rather Nerdy! Many went on to Bigger Things!
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I use (and I presume @TAB For Ever would agree What is a Pollyanna personality type? Pollyanna attitude means positive thinking i.e. acknowledging both negative and positive events and choosing to focus on the positive aspects rather than the negative ones. Today, “Pollyanna” is a common label and proponent of optimism, gratitude and eventually happiness.
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you have your old school Tie! and a few silver spoons that go with it? @TAB For Ever"been reading a NZ book on Meth........Mad on Meth by Benjamin Collins the TV1 Reporter. Racing ,both animals and people get a few mentions !" Is a detailed review coming? sigh, re 'mentioned', tiz interesting how some can get so badly labelled by nz racing industry! Disgustingly so at times, just look at the shit CWJ has been dealt! Umm, man! do I hold some 'secrets!'
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lol, until a few things like better tracks and fit horses, where you feel you might just have a chance....
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paid my rent a few times
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Where the hell are the cup week noms that closed at 4pm today?
Murray Fish replied to curious's topic in Galloping Chat
sigh, you know you might be behind the 8 ball, when, umm, I've not seen most of theses horses! odds posted: to see how they change ps, what this market be set at? Win Place Alabama Lass 4.00 1.75 Captured By Love 5.00 2.00 Velocious 6.00 2.25 Archaic Smile 8.00 2.75 Damask Rose 10.00 3.25 Love Poem 10.00 3.25 Thooza 10.00 3.25 Boss 'N' Higheels 16.00 4.75 Foreverintime 18.00 5.25 Renovations 18.00 5.25 Ziggy Stardust 18.00 5.25 Diablo Blanco 21.00 6.00 Social Climber 21.00 6.00 Star Shadow 21.00 6.00 Tristar 21.00 6.00 Amulet 26.00 7.25 Donna Chiara 26.00 7.25 Dream Of The Moon 26.00 7.25 Great Time 26.00 7.25 Matakana Perkynana 31.00 8.50 Out Of Exile 31.00 8.50 Flash Roca 41.00 11.00 Indie Ardie 41.00 11.00 Sister Ping 41.00 11.00 Sunrise 41.00 11.00 Vegas Queen 41.00 11.00 Tarzador 61.00 16.00 Zerre 61.00 16.00 -
both!
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as it should be! with thanks! @Wingatui recently, a nice day, I recon there might have been 50 people pass around the Public area! I recon I spoke to 49