Murray Fish

I be having a serious look at the 3 year old race...

it didn't look to be racing that kindly at times.. seemed to take off around the 500m and looked a bit unsteady rounding that last bend, it it hit it it might have gone worse!

" the target audience was males 40-64 years old " I thought the new focus was one a younger age bracket? or is that via other advts? They all seem rather naff to me!

there has still been Full Page adtvs in ODT.. and I'm getting video stuff directed my way! all about Hunch's and throwing money at them...

I asked her Mum who she modelled herself on and she said Neither! ps. I first meet Debbie when she was at the old Trentham Sales, think it might have be 1986, I think she might just started her apprentice, presented friendly

All after being knocked back along the way! Never a easy game! The horse don't know the riders breeding Hope she keeps improving

interesting to see how she didn't take up her apprenticeship over that side of ditch, same as young Bates...

he would be way to sensible! though his granddad did with success!

Wagering NZ TAB chases new generation with launch of digital wagering option By Warwick Barr - August 08, 2024 The New Zealand TAB, backed by international wagering giant Entain, has created a second betting platform in a bid to attract a younger audience. The New Zealand TAB has launched an online wagering platform known as betcha. (Photo: tab.co.nz) Following a soft launch on Wednesday, the TAB is offering customers a digital-only option called betcha. Its arrival marks the first time a new wagering brand has been established in New Zealand since the TAB opened in 1950. New Zealand does not licence corporate bookmakers as Australia does. Entain, the owner of Ladbrokes and Neds, says the release of betcha is aimed at providing customers with a point of difference to its traditional TAB offerings. With that in mind, the betcha app has been designed to appeal to a younger demographic, hoping to stem the flow of wagering turnover to overseas bookmakers. “In the three months to the end of June 2024, New Zealanders’ spending with offshore betting operators grew by 30 per cent, continuing a trend over the last three or more years,” Entain’s New Zealand managing director Cameron Rodger said. “Offshore spending is now estimated to be over $NZ180 million per annum, and this is led by the growth in offshore spending doubling in the 18 to 29-year-old age band in the last five years. “Their betting activity provides little to no benefit for the New Zealand racing and sports industries, and these offshore operators are under no obligation to provide the same level of harm minimisation support and account management tools that betcha will make available for Kiwis.” Entain banks on New Zealand growth to offset soft Australian market Unlike the TAB, betcha will not have a retail presence and it will be limited to a fixed-odds service. It will offer a suite of interactive products with a social emphasis, and sports popular with a younger generation will be the platform's linchpin. "This new brand will emphasise the social and competitive value of sports and racing and introduce New Zealanders to the next generation of betting,” Entain’s chief marketing officer, Mel Kenneday said. “This means we’ll be focusing on some of those events and sports that the newer generation have really shown interest in, like football, basketball, and UFC, with betcha confirmed as New Zealand’s official wagering partner for UFC.” Entain signed a 25-year strategic partnership with the New Zealand TAB last year, fending off bids from Tabcorp and Sportsbet to clinch the deal. The company’s move into the New Zealand wagering landscape has given the country’s racing industry renewed optimism. The inaugural $NZ4.5 million NZB Kiwi in 2025 is just one example of Entain’s impact. Entain launched a new TAB betting platform in April, and there was some growth in the 18-29-year-old demographic. However, it says it is clear that New Zealand punters want a point of difference. Entain, NZ racing initiatives hailed as a ‘game-changer’ ahead of Karaka sale The launch of betcha follows Australian firm Tabcorp’s move into the social wagering space. In 2022, the ASX-listed Tabcorp purchased a 20 per cent equity interest in Dabble for $33 million in an effort to increase its younger wagering customer base. Tabcorp had previously ventured into a corporate bookmaking role when it launched Luxbet in 2008. But when Tabcorp completed an $11 million merger with Tatts Group, Luxbet, which operated as an online platform, was closed in 2017.

opps... I c&p I think from NZ breeders site?

eleven for me! ps. but not your two!

How many have made the Hall of Fame? How many have you patted

NZ HORSE OF THE YEAR 2023-24 Mr Brightside (Bullbars x Lilahjay) Breeder: R I & Est late M A G Johnson 2022-23 Lucky Sweynesse Sweynesse x Madonna Mia Breeder: P L Dombroski, Explosive Breeding Ltd & S A Sharrock 2020-2021 Probabeel Savabeel x Far Fetched Breeder: G J Chittick 2019-2020 Melody Belle Commands x Meleka Belle Breeder: Mrs N M Leicester 2018-2019 Melody Belle Commands x Meleka Belle Breeder: Mrs N M Leicester 2017-2018 Bonneval Makfi x Imposingly Breeder: City Bloodstock Ltd 2016-17 Bonneval Makfi x Imposingly Breeder: City Bloodstock Ltd 2015-2016 Mongolian Khan Holy Roman Emperor x Centafit Breeder: Grenville Stud 2014-2015 Mongolian Khan Holy Roman Emperor x Centafit Breeders: Grenville Stud 2013-2014 Dundeel High Chaparral x Stareel Breeder: Mrs J P & M M Andersen 2012-2013 Ocean Park Thorn Park x Sayyida Breeder: Trelawney Thoroughbred Ltd 2011-2012 Mufhasa Pentire x Sheila Cheval Breeder: C C E & J W Thompson 2010-2011 Jimmy Choux Thorn Park x Cierzo Breeder: Chouxmaani Investments Ltd 2009-2010 Vosne Romanee Electronic Zone x Madison Avenue Breeder: Turnham Green Holdings 2008-2009 Mufhasa Pentire x Sheila Cheval Breeder: C C E & J W Thompson 2007-2008 Seachange Cape Cross x Just Cruising Breeder: Karreman Bloodstock Ltd 2006-2007 Seachange Cape Cross x Just Cruising Breeder: Karreman Bloodstock Ltd 2005-2006 Xcellent Pentire x Excelo Breeder: G F Gimblett Family Trust 2004-2005 Xcellent Pentire x Excelo Breeder: G F Gimblett Family Trust 2003-2004 King's Chapel King of Kings x Lower Chapel Breeder: Norelands Stud 2002-2003 Tit for Tat Faltaat x Miss Kiwitea Breeder: R I & Est late W D Scott 2001-02 Sunline Desert Sun x Songline Breeder: Ms S R Archer & M J Martin 2000-2001 Sunline Desert Sun x Songline Breeder: Ms S R Archer & M J Martin 1999-2000 Sunline Desert Sun x Songline Breeder: Ms S R Archer & M J Martin 1998-1999 Sunline Desert Sun x Songline Breeder: Ms S R Archer & M J Martin 1997-1998 Tycoon Lil Last Tycoon x Imposing Bloom II Breeder: Tesio Bloodstock NZ Ltd 1996-1997 O'Reilly Last Tycoon x Courtza Breeder: Waikato Stud Holdings Ltd 1995-1996 Our Maizcay Maizcay x Maire Viita Breeder: Widden Heroic Joint Venture 1994-1995 Rough Habit Roughcast x Certain Habit Breeder: Mrs I M Roddick 1993-1994 The Phantom Noble Bijou x The Fantasy Breeder: A G, K J, M C & P R Dennis 1992-1993 Veandercross Crossways x Lavender Breeder: Dr W Luey 1991-1992 Rough Habit Rough Cast x Certain Habit Breeder: Mrs I M Roddick 1990-1991 Surfers Paradise Crested Wave x Lady Aythorpe Breeder: K Chong, G Fong & W Kwok 1989-1990 Horlicks Three Legs x Malt Breeder: G W de Gruchy 1988-1989 Poetic Prince Yeats x Finisterre Breeder: Dr A Sywak 1987-1988 Courier Bay Diplomatic Agent x Bay Ruth Breeder: G A White 1986-1987 Tidal Light Diagramatic x Azores Breeder: Mr & Mrs J D O'Flaherty 1985-1986 Bonecrusher Pag-Asa x Imitation Breeder: R W Punch 1984-1985 Hunterville Treason Trial x Wedding Ring 1983-1985 Kiwi Blarney Kiss x Malrayvis Breeder: H B Fischer 1982-1983 Our Flight Imperial Guard x Jane Flight Breeder: J W Rusher 1981-1982 Altitude Magnesia x High Trick Breeder: Mr & Mrs D Crawford 1980-1981 Drum War Hawk II x Never The Less 1979-1980 Little Brown Jug Godavari x Pease 1978-1979 La Mer Copenhagen II x La Balsa Breeder: J G Alexander 1977-1978 Uncle Remus Bandmaster II x Tusitala Breeder: Mrs G M Donaldson 1976-1977 Show Gate Gate Keeper x Minglow Breeder: G Thomson 1975-1976 Balmerino Trictrac x Dulcie 1974-1975 Show Gate Gate Keeper x Minglow Breeder: G Thomson 1973-1974 Battle Heights

What a cracking win that was! I have not re watched until now! I note the rider comment about making the weight! In the lead up to this race I was keen to see how the colt Red Sea ran, he looked great, but not today! later to run 2nd in G1 1400... another colt that I was watching was Move To Strike, both him and RS had to run on some challenging tracks for a few of their runs.. I see the Ratings have them at Move To Strike 80 Velocious 80 Captured By love 77 Archaic Smile 77. Red Sea 77 Gee, dropping the Hype of that race, then I would have to vote for the Colt! ps. I would be rather Excited with any going forward! In the end

having a joe b moment! what happened to the Free Handicap system?

21 hours ago Share Victoria Gill Science correspondent•@vic_gill Kate Stephens Senior science producer BBC News The team of veterinary scientists worked with five stud farms for the study into gut microbes and their impact on long-term health The future success of a racehorse can be detected in the animal’s gut when it is just one month old, research suggests. A recent veterinary study analysed horses' poo, measuring the bacteria in the digestive systems of more than 50 thoroughbred foals over the first three years of their lives. The study found the more types of gut microbes a foal had at just four weeks old directly correlates to its future health, and its success on the racecourse. The findings, published in the journal Scientific Reports, add to an emerging biological picture regarding the importance of the trillions of microbes that live inside young animals’ digestive systems - and their role in long-term health. BBC News Like human infants, young horses pick up vital gut bacteria from their mothers and from the environment “Gut health is absolutely critical,” said lead researcher Chris Proudman, a professor of clinical veterinary science at the University of Surrey. “There is a growing understanding that what happens in human guts and in animal guts – horses, in this case - has a profound influence on many aspects of health and disease.” “It’s also about timing,” he explained. “The nature of the gut bacteria in those first few weeks of life predicts the future health, and the future performance, of these horses.” Young racehorses provide veterinary scientists with an ideal opportunity for studying the gut. Breeders and trainers of thoroughbred foals typically keep highly detailed records of each animal’s birth, diet and health, as well as any veterinary care they receive. “Anything we can investigate – to help them be in as good shape as possible – is a really good opportunity for us,” said Jane Black, co-owner of Chasemore stud farm in Surrey, which bred some of the foals involved in the research. ADVERTISEMENT Over the course of three years, owners and trainers recorded how their horses performed on the racecourse, including where they placed and how much prize money they earned. Meanwhile, scientists regularly collected faecal samples - by collecting horse poo from the stables - from each of the 52 young horses involved in the study. Researchers were then able to “DNA fingerprint” the samples, providing a regular read-out of the bacteria inside each animal's gut. Victoria Gill What is happening in the gut of a foal at four weeks old is critical to its health as an adult “We can see the amount of bacteria present and identify the different types,” explained Prof Proudman. “Then we compared that with our health data, and with our racing performance data.” The study concluded that the more diverse the gut bacteria in a four-week-old foal, the fewer health problems - particularly respiratory diseases - the horse suffered in later life. Researchers also found a direct relationship between the number of different types of gut bacteria in a month-old foal and its performance on the racecourse when it was older. Impact of antibiotics The team of scientists also investigated the long-term consequences of young foals being treated with antibiotics. Foals treated with antibiotic drugs had fewer types of bacteria in their guts, and subsequently went on to win less prize money in their racing careers compared to horses that had not received early antibiotic treatment. Prof Proudman said the discovery raised questions about the use of antibiotics, both in animals and in humans, in early life. “We need to think about things that happen in those first few weeks of life - to make sure that animals and humans' gut bacteria are in a good state at that stage. "That appears to set them up for a healthy life in the future,” he said. Professor Roberto La Ragione, also at the University of Surrey, said:  “The next part of our study will examine how we can minimise disruption of gut bacteria when antibiotics have to be used to treat infections [early on].”

"it's all about the data" it was the best of times, it was the worse of times... at the going down of the sun, we will throw more money at it....

https://www.betcha.co.nz/

There’s a new player on the Kiwi betting landscape for the first time in 74 years Mat Kermeen Entain says the younger demographic are already betting and are safer doing it with a New Zealand company who have harm minimisation practices. John Davidson / www.photosport.n / John Davidson / www.photosport.nz FAST FACTS Entain, who operate the New Zealand TAB, have launched a second betting platform. Betcha, is targeting a younger demographic, who Entain claim are already betting big with overseas agencies. PGF services say targeting a market as young as teenagers is ‘very concerning’. International wagering operator Entain, which operates the New Zealand TAB, has launched a new platform to attract a younger audience and minimise the damage being done by offshore betting operators. Until the launch of betcha on Wednesday, the only New Zealand-based option to bet on racing and sports, legally, in the previous 74 years has been with the TAB. An online platform, betcha will not have a retail front or self-service machines and will run alongside the existing TAB but as a different entity. Account holders will use betcha through a website, similar to the new TAB layout, and an app. Already signed as New Zealand’s official betting partner to the UFC, betcha will have a strong focus on sports such as football and basketball that are popular with the younger generation, but Entain says it will hold a prominent racing footprint. There are concerns around the targeted advertising of the new platform towards young adults. BRUCE MACKAY / BRUCE MACKAY / STUFF Entain, who took over the running of the NZ TAB midway through last year, says its reason for targeting the younger market was because that is the age bracket that is doing the most betting with offshore operators, taking money away from New Zealand sports and racing bodies. Given the demographic, betcha will have a strong social media presence and be more visible to potential punters, as young as teenagers. But PGF Services (formerly Problem Gambling Foundation) can see the move causing damage of a different kind and say a new platform targeting young adults is “very concerning”, claiming it will put young adults at serious risk of overreaching their limits. “I think it’s really concerning, it’s clearly targeting 18 to 29-year-old’s and that is really problematic,” PGF services spokesperson Andree Froude said. “Haven’t we learned anything from alcohol and tobacco? “That they can come out with a brand that’s blatantly targeting young people is really, really concerning.” ADVERTISEMENT “Young people and risk taking, we know for many things that can be problematic,” Froude said. Entain says it can create a safer avenue for the younger demographic to bet legally and in an environment that has harm minimisation protections, something offshore agencies largely don’t provide. Back in April, the TAB launched a new betting platform and website but Cameron Rodger, Entain Australia and New Zealand’s managing director, said while that had provided some growth in the the 18-29 demographic, there was clearly a demand for a point of difference in the market. “Offshore spending is now estimated to be over $180m per annum, and this is led by the growth in offshore spending doubling in the 18-29-year-old age band in the last five years,” Rodger said. “In the three months to the end of June 2024, New Zealanders’ spending with offshore betting operators grew by 30%, continuing a trend over the last three or more years. “Their betting activity provides little to no benefit for the New Zealand racing and sports industries, and these offshore operators are under no obligation to provide the same level of harm minimisation support and account management tools that betcha will make available for Kiwis,” Rodger said. Betcha is already signed as New Zealand’s official betting partner to the UFC. Altaf Qadri / AP ADVERTISEMENT Froude said aside from the concerns around targeting youth, another player in the wagering industry would expose at risk gamblers, of all ages, to more marketing and enticements to bet. Forde said advertising, enticements and promotions offered by betting agencies, including the TAB, can make betting seem not risky or having no harm associated with it. “And they are harmful products,” she said. The view of PGF, who see the damage problem gambling does on a daily basis, was that gambling advertising should not be prohibited at all. “It is so normalised,” Froude said. “You cannot watch sport now without hearing about odds.” Entain’s chief marketing officer, Mel Kenneday, said betcha would introduce New Zealanders to the next generation of betting, where punters could create syndicates and bet with mates. Betcha will offer more personalised options and flexibility to its online customers than the more traditional TAB service. Like the TAB website, the betcha app and website will have free live streaming of Trackside Racing channels and some sports for account holders. TAB account holders wanting to join betcha will need to sign up to a separate account. Froude said said PGF wanted to see mandatory limits and accounts and should not be able to be topped up by credit cards as minimum requirements. - Stuff

TAB New Zealand Interim Chair Anna Stove has today announced her resignation after a significant five-year contribution to the statutory body. Stove’s governance contribution began in 2019 when she joined the Racing Industry Transition Agency. She became Deputy Chair of the first TAB NZ Board in 2021, Interim Chair in September 2023, and was instrumental in securing TAB NZ’s strategic partnering arrangement with Entain. Her time on the board saw the implementation of the far-reaching changes to the racing industry recommended by the “Messara Report”, overcoming challenges in racing and sport posed by COVID restrictions, the negotiation and finalisation of the Entain strategic partnership, transitioning to TAB NZ’s new operating model, and making investments across both racing and sports. Stove said she is very proud of the legacy that has been created by TAB NZ during her time on the Board. “It has been a rewarding five years and more importantly we have delivered a sustainable long-term outcome for our stakeholders through the Entain partnership.” “I would like to thank the Minister, and all my director and management colleagues who I have worked with during this time. I have the utmost confidence in the remaining Board and management team continuing to build on the foundation we have laid – we are well placed for the next chapter. I feel very confident about the industry’s future and its contribution to the nation’s economy.” TAB NZ Chief Executive Officer, Nick Roberts, congratulated Stove on her contribution. “I would like to thank Anna for her leadership and drive. There’s no doubt that Anna leaves the organisation, and those who rely on our funding, in a better position than when she joined in 2019.” Although leaving the Board, Stove will continue to follow her lifelong interest in the racing industry through breeding and racing thoroughbreds from her Karaka property. Stove will continue as Interim Chair until a new appointment is made by the Minister for Racing.

Paul Vettise, LOVERACING.NZ News Desk 7 August 2024 Brendan and Jo Lindsay celebrated a string of major results in the 2023/24 season from both the proven and promising members of their racing team. Such was the extent of the Cambridge Stud principals on-track successes, the couple claimed the New Zealand Ownership Premiership with 27 winners of 40 races from 38 runners.

Yes and all the guns from last season. oh to have been on course!

what be the stakes for this period?

i don't really care about the odds until I have a horse that I think can win or place, then odds kick in... but the modern way that racing is now delivered, driven by that 4/5 minute churn, the now seems to Never be decent prerace actual footage of the Horse! Which I need to actually have a bet! The odd big race we might get that... I need the 'talking heads' 0.0025%

sigh, Tab seem to love Mr Mess, I wonder what Messara thinks happened after he galloped out of town?