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PRESS RELEASE: Black Type Changes at Trentham
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
the praxis of 'core periphery model'.. Chch is for the South, but is also in the periphery to the primary core.. which of course is on the periphery of the likes of Mlb and Syd and into Asia,, CD is interesting, its seems as if things are spread around, no place quite being the core, all those district off course very becoming to the Waikato/Cambride/Mattamata core -
it says races 1/4 here... https://www.tab.co.nz/promotions
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wow... in a good year that would be for the year... mostly larger bets...
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PRESS RELEASE: Black Type Changes at Trentham
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
In some ways true, but in another it might be actually easy to get a win or place horse, I recon so! especially in the black type races as there is not the deep in the fields that there would be! I seem to be different than most when it comes to having a bet! give me a small field any day! a decent track would be nice as well! But gee, where @TAB For Everis 100% correct! make sure you are having some fun along the way! Respectfully said Knowing of the hard work being put in by so many in producing each horse on a race day! Extra hard if you are distant from the bright lights of the Metro tracks! -
PRESS RELEASE: Black Type Changes at Trentham
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Speaking as a photographer! Trentham is the Best Track by a long way to work at because the sun comes from over ones shoulders and on a bright sunny day! Hence more 'important historical' shots have been taken there! Thankful for being able to be on course for some many of those races back 80/90's. Speaking as punter, all these changes etc stand for shit if we don't have a decent track to let the races play out on! -
NZTR Announcement on Jumps Review 11 September 2024
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
when people aren't taking shots at him (wow), others are saying this... LOVERACING.NZ Sodtsornepgh607J0i201t,0g67230ut127m74u1m1u4 i81h1651yugc 4l · #onehorsemanyhearts | TIM MILLS Role: Chief Executive, Canterbury Jockey Club Length of time in racing: From the cradle, working life 40 years. How did you get involved in the industry: Racing is bred into me. Family lore records a racing passion from the earliest days with one of our forebears, Hector McDonald, marrying a niece and befriending an elderly Chief Te Rauparaha reportedly accompanying him to the Otaki Maori Races. Dad was President of the Wellington Racing Club, Mum’s Dad Jack MacDonald held racing and punting such a priority that the red bound ‘Form Record’ substituted the prayer book for an hour’s study at mass (Incidentally his best horse HOT DROP was trained by Percy Burgess, grandfather of NZTR’s Mary). Other family members on the MacDonald side were administrators with the Ashhurst-Pohangina and Manawatu Racing Clubs. My Godfather Felix Campbell is father of Group 1 winning trainer Patrick and raced numerous horses with Dad. St Patrick’s College Silverstream may not see it as its greatest role but it has produced a plethora of racing men. Caned (amongst other punishments) for escaping the grounds to attend Trentham and, possibly not the best advertisement for respect for schooling, leaving a bursary exam to listen to dad’s horse Tarlton win and score a record collect on the communal schoolboy TAB account did nothing to dissuade the racing interest. Leaving school to work at what was then the New Zealand Racing Conference and on to the Canterbury Jockey Club. The Conference Wellington days involved a wonderful group of people whose only weekend ambition was to get in the car on Friday night or Saturday morning and head to the nearest racemeeting. Great race days of comradery, punting and the odd ale or two followed by obligatory after-matches at the local pubs created so many lifelong friendships cemented by a common love of horses and racing. If there was ever any doubt that reinforced racing as the only working life for me. Having to be on-course to watch BALMERINO, the GREY WAY/COPPER BELT clashes, THUN and OWHATA CHIEF vie for hurdle supremacy, LA MER, amongst so many others and to have to take your treble or jackpot was just great fun. That continued when moving to Canterbury and meeting many more outstanding people and friends, travelling to new racecourses and parts of the country and seeing so many more memorable horses. What are your favourite aspects of your role: Racing is just so much more than a job. It is about being involved and contributing to the tapestry of a wonderful sport. Playing a role in running a racecourse and race meetings which enable horses and people to add to that tapestry and create history is hugely satisfying. The range of emotions that you see in the birdcage before and after even the smallest of races is something I doubt you get in many jobs. I take pride in Riccarton Park Racecourse. As a custodian of a 165-year-old sports ground there is a need to ensure that whilst respecting the past it is improved and enhanced for the next 165. What advice would you give to someone wanting to get involved in racing: Don’t think you can please everyone. The very nature of racing sees the 100/1 shot beat the odds on at times. As such there will be extreme views at each end of the spectrum on any and almost all issues. If you can look yourself in the mirror and confidently say you have done your best and made the right decision for, and in the best interests of, the majority you won’t go far wrong. -
one mate went to both, and said lots is being promised! will share more when I get to have a proper conversation with him!
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it might be, all of the above! or none or the above, or some of the above! though, I think everything is rather in a state if fizzz, who does know what is actually happening? for what its worth! 'our house' has two accounts.. both make a profit! one gets offer$ the other doesn't! lol! guess which acc is in my name!
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First there was Winstones Mills now Avondale Racecourse!
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
just another struggle kiwi place struggling to live in modern capitalism... -
Trials at Ellerslie today 10 September 2024
Murray Fish replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
There perhaps is a need to go old school and do what often happen, the head stipe and another, could be the commentator as in Peter Kelly's day, they walk out onto the track by the winning post and kick the ground, mumble a bit and out came that days guesstimate. -
out with the old, in with the modern race track fence... Very Nice, easy for a Adult to lean on and to watch the action infolding,,, very plasticky! also, out goes the birdcage hedge to reveal... by chance I had a interesting chat with people from the Riverton Club who are having to look at putting in something similar
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he would be getting fatten up a bit if he lived in one of our paddocks! house motto for any quests: You Will Leave Heavier!
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ouch.. 'mrs' No interest is paying to be on course... happy to be on course, for free.. and she actually much prefers days when there is no one on course, as Wingatui on sunday
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it would make interesting reading, how many Marketers the different Clubs have gone through this century! Otago rc seems to go through them very quickly!
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100% with ya... I think this race reflects how now a days there is more depth in the filly races, what with most top males being brought by overseas interests and then the ever present agent looking to get any horse that looks like having ability. It will be interesting to see the market
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what odds that last seasons 2 yr old of the year wins a race? ps, I can report, its been a few seasons since I've been this Up for a NZ meeting! 'we' have Wingatui the next day, oncourse.. lol, I hope I back up well!!
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126 noms, 4 NZ trained, only one for James Cummings 1. Absurde (FR, Willie Mullins) 2. Adelaide River (IRE, Kris Lees) 3. Age Of Sail (GB, Kris Lees) 4. Ahuriri (NZ, Chris Waller) 5. Alegron (Bjorn Baker) 6. Almairac (IRE, Cliff Brown) 7. Ardakan (GB, Ciaron Maher) 8. Arrest (IRE, John & Thady Gosden) 9. Athabascan (FR, John O'Shea & Tom Charlton) 10. Aurora's Symphony (Symon Wilde) 11. Balance Play (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 12. Bankers Choice (NZ, Michael Moroney & Glen Thompson) 13. Basilinna (NZ, Emma-Lee & David Browne) 14. Bear On The Loose (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 15. Berkshire Breeze (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 16. Birdman (IRE, Chris Waller) 17. Brayden Star (GB, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 18. Buckaroo (GB, Chris Waller) 19. Changingoftheguard (IRE, Kris Lees) 20. Circle Of Fire (GB, Ciaron Maher) 21. Cleveland (IRE, Kris Lees) 22. Coco Sun (Tony & Calvin McEvoy) 23. Convener (FR, Ciaron Maher) 24. Dashing Duchess (NZ, Symon Wilde) 25. Delius (GB, Jean-Claude Rouget) 26. Denmark (GB, Chris Waller) 27. Deny Knowledge (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 28. Dillian (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 29. Divus Romulus (IRE, Nick Ryan) 30. Don't Doubt Dory (Julien Welsh) 31. Dunleer Lad (Amy Small) 32. El Bodegon (IRE, Chris Waller) 33. Eliyass (FR, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 34. Emissary (GB, Michael Moroney & Glen Thompson) 35. Etna Rosso (IRE, Chris Waller) 36. Fancy Man (IRE, Annabel Neasham & Rob Archibald) 37. Fawkner Park (IRE, Annabel Neasham & Rob Archibald) 38. Firestorm (NZ, Chris Waller) 39. Foxy Cleopatra (Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 40. Francesco Guardi (IRE, Chris Waller) 41. Future History (GB, Ciaron Maher) 42. Gear Up (IRE, Annabel Neasham & Rob Archibald) 43. Good Oil (NZ, Andrew Forsman) 44. Grosvenor Square (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 45. Haaracaine (IRE, Nick Ryan) 46. Harbour Wind (IRE, Dermot Weld) 47. Hipop De Loire (FR, Willie Mullins) 48. Horrifying (NZ, Lindsey Smith) 49. Illinois (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 50. Immediacy (NZ, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 51. Interpretation (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 52. Jan Brueghel (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 53. Just Fine (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 54. Kalapour (IRE, Kris Lees) 55. Karburan (FR, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 56. Kinesiology (GB, Jessica Harrington) 57. Knight's Choice (John Symons & Sheila Laxon) 58. Kovalica (NZ, Chris Waller) 59. Land Legend (FR, Chris Waller) 60. Le Don De Vie (GB, Ciaron Maher) 61. Lionel (GB, Ciaron Maher) 62. Magical Zoe (IRE, Henry De Bromhead) 63. Mahrajaan (USA, Shaune Ritchie & Colm Murray) 64. Manzoice (Chris Waller) 65. Mare Of Mt Buller (Chris Waller) 66. Medatsu (NZ, Chris Waller) 67. Middle Earth (GB, Ciaron Maher) 68. Military Mission (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 69. Mission Of Love (John Symons & Sheila Laxon) 70. Molly Bloom (NZ, Chris Waller) 71. Mostly Cloudy (IRE, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 72. Muramasa (Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 73. Nereus (NZ, Shaune Ritchie & Colm Murray) 74. New Endeavour (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 75. Night Sparkle (IRE, Andrew Balding) 76. Okita Soushi (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 77. Onesmoothoperator (USA, Brian Ellison) 78. Pennyweka (NZ, Ciaron Maher) 79. Place Du Carrousel (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 80. Point King (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 81. Point Lonsdale (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 82. Poptronic (GB, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 83. Positivity (NZ, Andrew Forsman) 84. Post Impressionist (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 85. Promises Kept (Ciaron Maher) 86. Quantum Cat (USA, Chris Waller) 87. Que Tempesta (IRE, Ben, Will & JD Hayes) 88. Red Aces (Nick Ryan) 89. Relentless Voyager (GB, Andrew Balding) 90. Riff Rocket (Chris Waller) 91. Royal Champion (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 92. Royal Patronage (FR, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 93. Royal Supremacy (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 94. Saint George (GB, Ciaron Maher) 95. Sayedaty Sadaty (IRE, Ciaron Maher) 96. Sea King (GB, Harry Eustace) 97. Sea What I See (IRE, Danny O'Brien) 98. Sentimental Flame (Travis Doudle) 99. Serpentine (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 100. Shaiyhar (IRE, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 101. Sharp 'N' Smart (NZ, Graeme & Deborah Rogerson) 102. Shonan Bashitto (JPN, Naosuke Sugai) 103. Sir Lucan (IRE, Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott) 104. Strathtay (NZ, Chris Waller) 105. Suizuro (Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 106. The Equator (IRE, Aidan O'Brien) 107. The Euphrates (GB, Aidan O'Brien) 108. The Map (Dan Clarken & Oopy MacGillivray) 109. Think 'N' Fly (David Noonan) 110. Trust In You (NZ, Bruce Wallace & Grant Cooksley) 111. Uncle Bryn (GB, Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young) 112. Unusual Legacy (NZ, Chris Waller) 113. Up And Under (FR, Chris Waller) 114. Valiant King (GB, Chris Waller) 115. Vauban (FR, Willie Mullins) 116. Via Sistina (IRE, Chris Waller) 117. Waltham (GB, Matthew Smith) 118. Warmonger (NZ, Mick Price & Michael Kent Jr) 119. Warp Speed (JPN, Noboru Takagi) 120. Way Up High (Dan O'Sullivan) 121. Whisky On The Hill (GB, Michael Moroney & Glen Thompson) 122. Without A Fight (IRE, Anthony & Sam Freedman) 123. Zardozi (James Cummings) Read all news by
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Exciting! now for some serious study to be done....
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pardon! 👀 ps. filly's race looks the most exiting race of the day
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yes please! wouldn't it be great if we look back on this seasons G1's that they played out on true tracks! I live in hope....
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recommendations from M Report... 6 years on
Murray Fish replied to Murray Fish's topic in Galloping Chat
the Offical take on the M... NZTR Applauds Messara Report Recommendations New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing (NZTR) has welcomed the findings of the Messara Report into the state of thoroughbred racing in New Zealand. “It’s time for change. We believe this report will create a blueprint for a thriving thoroughbred industry,” NZTR Chairman, Dr Alan Jackson, said. “While our Board has yet to consider the report in detail, the major recommendations are in line with NZTR’s views and it is reassuring to have those policies verified by an independent and expert voice. “But implementing the report will still require a considerable amount of work and investment,” Jackson said. “We need to work with the Government, the New Zealand Racing Board (NZRB) and the Racing Industry Transition Agency to ensure that this opportunity is not wasted. “We are confident that racing has a bright future in New Zealand but real change and brave leadership will be required if we are to achieve the report’s target of doubling prize money. “We are at the cross-roads in terms of sustainability and we need to move quickly. It’s a heavily regulated industry and it is vital that any recommended changes to the Racing Act are put in place as soon as practicable, to allow each Code to achieve their potential. “The current wagering business model is under severe competitive pressure, and we need additional income streams and reduced costs if thoroughbred racing’s share is to grow.” NZTR endorsed the Messara Report recommendation that the NZRB outsources much of the TAB’s commercial operations. “This is something NZTR has been advocating for some time,” Jackson said. Multiple pieces of work, which NZTR had been involved with or undertaken, had shown that an outsourcing arrangement would provide significant financial gains. “This is one way of overcoming a lack of scale, which has made it increasingly difficult for the NZ TAB to operate in what is now a highly competitive wagering market.” The argument for outsourcing had also been strengthened by changes to the international regulatory environment, which had not been anticipated at the time of the NZRB’s current strategy. NZTR also welcomed the recommendations in the Messara Report on synthetic tracks and racing venues. “NZTR has been undertaking its own venue review and has come to similar conclusions,” Jackson said. “While there will always be a place for each club, it has been obvious for some time that the industry cannot sustain the current number of venues. “Infrastructure spending needs to be lifted. Many of our strategic tracks require significant investment but if we attempt to retain the current number of venues, there is a risk that the infrastructure spending will be spread too thinly. “Synthetic tracks will play a key role in providing consistent and reliable surfaces and will ease the pressure on the main turf tracks. “The recommendations in the Messara report are a pathway to a major uplift in our sector’s economic performance and contribution to New Zealand,” Jackson said. “But there is a lot of detail to consider and we are pleased that the Government has pledged to consult further with the industry. “Our sport has had a significant economic and social impact on New Zealand. It sustains more than 14,000 full-time equivalent jobs, has over 55,000 participants and generates more than $1.6 billion in value-added contribution to the New Zealand economy. “The thoroughbred code, alone, has 16,000 owners, 3700 breeders and 1000 trainers and generates more than 9000 FTE jobs, plus volunteers.” -
I wonder if this sort of thing contradicts re Closer Economic Relations (CER)
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recommendations from M Report... 6 years on
Murray Fish replied to Murray Fish's topic in Galloping Chat
The proposed 28 remaining venues are: • Ellerslie • Matamata • Te Aroha • Pukekohe • Te Rapa* • Te Awamutu* • Tauranga • Ruakaka • Taupo • Te Teko • Awapuni • Trentham • Hastings • Otaki • Wanganui • New Plymouth • Waverley • Tauherenikau • Gisborne • Blenheim • Riccarton Park • Ashburton • Wingatui • Ascot Park Invercargill • Kumara • Cromwell • Waikouaiti • Riverton