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  1. you can also scroll thought their each start where you can see what gear they had on for each start. I note that it seems all horses seem to have 'approved plates', does that mean there are other sorts???
  2. https://loveracing.nz/raceinfo/53169/meeting-overview.aspx this is for Riccarton, at the bottom of the each race there is a list of 'gear changes' lets say perhaps??? Tokyo Tycoon: Blinkers on then, if you click on that horse you find that.. Current Gear: Approved Plates Blinkers Lugging Bit Nose Band Tongue Tie all that suggesting perhaps??? he has his ongoing problems???
  3. in the 70's 'we' watched every race from the top level of the public stand! I use to run up and down the stairs for every race! Often pretending to be a horse!!!! two of those 'we's', neither from horse backgrounds, went on to win Training premierships, one in harness the other in thoroughbreds! where have those years gone!
  4. perhaps the trainer and track rider might if they have been trying them in private? but then, will that then transfer over into a actual race!
  5. If one asks Prof ChatGPT "statistics on race horses wearing blinkers in a race?" ChatGPT said: ChatGPT Blinkers are a common piece of equipment used in horse racing to help a horse focus and reduce distractions. They are a type of hood or cup that limits the horse's peripheral vision, preventing it from seeing other horses or distractions to the sides, which can sometimes cause anxiety or loss of focus. While detailed statistics on the exact impact of blinkers on a horse's performance in races may vary by location, trainer, and horse, here are some key insights and trends from the racing industry: 1. Blinkers and Performance Positive Impact: For many horses, blinkers help improve focus and can prevent them from shying away from other horses or becoming distracted by their surroundings. This is especially true for horses that tend to "wander" or lose their focus during a race. Negative Impact: On the other hand, some horses can become overly aggressive or excitable when blinkers are applied, which might hinder their performance. Additionally, horses that are naturally calm or focused may not benefit as much from blinkers. 2. Statistical Studies Win Rates: Various studies and analyses suggest that horses wearing blinkers sometimes show a slight improvement in their win rate, but the effect is not always significant across all horses. Some research has found that the percentage of horses wearing blinkers that win races can be slightly higher compared to those not wearing them. However, this depends largely on the horse's temperament and history with blinkers. Trainer Influence: The use of blinkers often depends on the trainer's judgment. Trainers may apply blinkers to horses that have shown signs of losing focus or becoming distracted during races. The results may vary based on the skill and timing of the trainer’s decision. Racing Data: Some specific studies (especially in jurisdictions like the UK and US) have analyzed horses' performance data before and after blinkers are applied. Generally, horses that are first-time blinkered have a mixed performance, with some improving significantly while others performing worse. 3. Types of Blinkers and Adjustments Full Blinkers vs. Noseband Blinkers: There are variations in blinkers, such as "full blinkers" (which block vision to the sides) or "noseband blinkers" (which just limit vision to the sides of the nose). The type of blinker used can influence the effectiveness on a horse's performance. First-Time Blinkers: A first-time application of blinkers is often viewed as a "last-resort" move by trainers when a horse is showing signs of losing focus. Horses wearing blinkers for the first time can sometimes see a jump in performance, particularly if they were previously distracted or undisciplined. 4. Statistical Considerations According to racing statistics, horses wearing blinkers can have a higher probability of finishing in the money (top 3) compared to those not wearing them, but the difference is generally modest. For example, in some racing data sets, horses with blinkers might have a winning rate around 10–15%, compared to 8–12% for those without blinkers. The exact numbers vary significantly based on the horse's previous form, track conditions, and distance. Post-Blinker Stats: When horses race with blinkers for the first time, they can show a higher improvement rate in their performance stats, especially in sprint races where focus is crucial. 5. Racing Jurisdictions US vs. UK: The impact of blinkers on a horse's performance can vary based on the racing jurisdiction. In the UK, for example, horses wearing blinkers may have slightly different win rates than in the US, depending on the type of racing culture and training methods. Conclusion While blinkers can provide an advantage for some horses, they do not guarantee success. The impact largely depends on the horse’s temperament, prior experience, and the specific circumstances of each race. As such, the general consensus is that blinkers are a useful tool, but their effectiveness is far from universal. For specific statistics, you may need to refer to data sets from a specific racing track or database like Equibase (US) or Racing Post (UK), where performance metrics for blinkered horses can be analyzed in more detail.
  6. Is There Any Scientific Proof That Blinkers Work? There is some scientific evidence to suggest that blinkers can be effective in helping horses maintain their focus and perform better during races or other equestrian activities. Several studies have been conducted to investigate the effects of blinkers on horse behavior and performance, with varying results. One study published in the Journal of Equine Veterinary Science in 2010 found that horses wearing blinkers had a reduced heart rate and were less likely to become distracted than horses without blinkers. The study also found that horses wearing blinkers were more likely to maintain a straight line during a race and were less likely to veer off course. Another study published in the same journal in 2016 found that horses wearing blinkers had improved performance in races and were less likely to become stressed or agitated during the race. The study also found that blinkers had no negative effect on the horse’s vision or ability to navigate the course. However, other studies have produced mixed results, with some finding no significant effect of blinkers on horse performance, while others have found that blinkers may have a negative effect on peripheral vision or cause discomfort or stress for some horses. Overall, while there is some scientific evidence to support the use of blinkers for certain horses, their effectiveness can vary depending on individual horse characteristics and performance, and they should be used with caution and careful consideration by trainers and jockeys. https://grandnational.horseracing.guide/416/whyhorseswearblinkers/
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  9. no doubt a reflection the reality of so many of the boys heading off overseas. no prices up yet!
  10. Breeding and Bloodstock Rowe On Monday - The Oak By Tim Rowe - Iconic Kiwi stud The Oaks has hit the market as owner Dick Karreman celebrates another Group 1 win, while Qatar Racing’s David Redvers talks up with another stallion investment and a former Singapore trainer embarks on a new era. The Oaks Stud in Cambridge is on the market. (Photo: The Oaks Stud) The Oaks on the market Queenslander Dick Karreman has raced a host of top-class horses over the years. There’s been champion mare Seachange - a dominant force in New Zealand racing in the mid-2000s and who is notably the second dam of Coolmore’s colt Storm Boy - and there’s been Recite, Artistic, Risque, Devise, Keepa Cruisin and Catalyst, just to name a few, all of whom have won elite races for The Oaks Stud owner. But Karreman’s latest racetrack star, Saturday’s New Zealand 2000 Guineas winner Savaglee, also holds special significance for the businessman who largely avoids the media and is rarely seen, either at the races or at Karaka where his prominent nursery The Oaks Stud is a vendor at the annual New Zealand Bloodstock National Yearling Sale. As usual, Karreman wasn’t at Riccarton to watch the Pam Gerard-trained colt in action on Saturday. He prefers to leave that to The Oaks Stud’s general manager Rick Williams, the man who selected the colt from the Waikato Stud for $400,000 at last year’s Karaka sale in the hope of turning him into a stallion. Coming five years after Karreman’s brilliant but injury plagued gelding Catalyst won the 2000 Guineas, the emergence of Savaglee coincides with changes that are in the air at The Oaks Stud. The billionaire businessman has quietly listed for sale his 202-hectare The Oaks Stud, a valuable piece of land that is located on the edge of Cambridge, which he has owned since 2002. “He (Karreman) has got a family situation that he has to sort out, and that's why it's part of a super fund, and the land is owned by the super fund, but there's a number of plans we've got going on between us at the moment,” Williams told The Straight. “But it’s very satisfying, obviously. He wanted me to buy a colt, and I got lucky, but he was thrilled. “He didn't come over, unfortunately, but obviously, when you get a classic winner of any sort, you're rapt and he's come through the race really well.” Williams will consult form analysts and ratings gurus to help him, Karreman and Gerard determine exactly where to head next preparation with Savaglee. Enhancing the colt’s value as a stallion prospect is high on the agenda. Rick Williams (centre) celebrates the win of Savaglee. (Photo: NZ Racing Desk) The inaugural NZB The Kiwi at Ellerslie on March 8 could be a possibility but the lure of the Group 1 status attached to the Australian Guineas at Flemington a week earlier may be too hard to ignore. “He ran the third fastest Guineas of all time (1:33.86 seconds), so you could say, ‘well, how good were they, the ones he beat?’” Williams says. “We'll find out as these horses race on, but you can only win, and when you win in a good time, you've got to start looking at other options. “Obviously, he's worth a certain value, because it’s New Zealand Group 1 and a Classic Group 1, but he's worth a hell of a lot more for them to get one in Aussie, so we'll see.” The Oaks Stud will continue to be an active vendor for the foreseeable future. (Photo: The Oaks) For Williams, it’s business as usual at The Oaks Stud with about 30 yearlings likely to be offered at Karaka next January under the farm’s distinguished banner despite a possible sale of the farm hanging over them. “The property market is pretty quiet at the moment, so it's no surprise (about a lack of interest). It's a difficult time to be selling,” Williams said. “But I'm not surprised with that, and Dick isn't worried. He certainly doesn't need the money. He's got plenty of assets. “It's just a matter of which ones you sell off to square things up with his family. He's got plenty of plan Bs and Cs.”
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  11. perhaps more concern with serious Legal issues if horse and or riders injured?
  12. as soon as they cross to him MUTE gets clicked!
  13. I note his comments about 'mentoring'! v's today, where often 'they' have gone for someone with very little historical connection or nuanced understanding oh nz racing history! Often, its seems to have been, picked some who we can get to champion the current 'party line' ps, a bonus question! note the shallowness of the writers understanding from where certain horses came from Lifelong passion for the track earns Allan Fenwick an ONZM Paul Mitchell June 05, 2017 •06:00am 0Comments Share Marton's Allan Fenwick has been appointed an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.PAUL MITCHELL / FAIRFAX NZ Allan Fenwick had no idea what was coming when he checked the mail at his Marton home last week. It came in a crisp envelope, more "official-looking" than most, but just another envelope in the pile. As he opened it, he pulled out a piece of paper telling him he was about to be made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for his long service to New Zealand horse racing. ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with Stuff ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with Stuff "That was a very unexpected. It was a huge surprise and a thrill. "I'm pleased to think thoroughbred racing is being recognised and I was one of the people lucky enough to be identified for that recognition." Over the past 54 years, Fenwick has grown from an enthusiastic youth watching from the stands to a man deeply involved at almost every level of New Zealand horse racing. Fenwick has served as chief executive of New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing, as a member of the International Cataloguing Standards Committee representing the Asian Racing Federation, and a board member of the TAB and the NZ Racing Authority. He still works passionately to honour the industry's past, with continued advocacy and support for the Racing Hall of Fame, which began 11 years ago. Fenwick has en eye on the future too, through his work with the Central Region Apprentice Academy and the NZ Equine Research Foundation. "I'm probably too fully immersed to be honest," Fenwick said. "I'm very fortunate to have the support of my wife Susan, who has been very supportive right throughout my career." ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with Stuff Susan Fenwick also came from a horse training family and shared her husband's love for horses and racing, something they've passed to their three children. "Through us, racing has been a huge part of their lives, and to a greater or lesser degree, we're all racing tragics," Allan Fenwick said. One of his most lasting memories was cheering from the stands in 1963 as Great Sensation won his third Wellington Cup in a row. He's still one of only two horses since the turn of the 20th Century to win the cup three times. But it was watching local Manawatu and Rangitikei legends from the 1960s and 70s, like Grey Way and Copperbelt, or "jumping horses", like Kumai, at the Awapuni Racecourse, that truly sparked his interest. Fenwick said he was fortunate to become part of Awapuni Racecourse's "huge racing tradition". As a centrally located racecourse, it has for years attracted some of the biggest names in New Zealand racing. "I was very fortunate in my early days to be mentored by Bill Freeman, then manager of the Manawatu Club, Herrick Perry, Jim Bull from Rangitikei, and Jack Bennett, a former chairman of the Racing Authority and the TAB." You can learn a lot by listening to the stories of those who've gone before. Circumstances change, but the lessons often stay the same, he said. By 1993, those lessons had helped Fenwick begin a 12-year tenure as chief executive of New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing. ADVERTISEMENT Advertise with Stuff During that time he oversaw a period of reform, including the introduction of the Judicial Control Authority and a national racing bureau to manage race entries, payments and fees to trainers, owners and jockeys.
  14. I'm sure anyone with a decent understanding of 'things racing' wouldn't! The last one properly entered knowing more than most! How long did he ask? Gee, how many since Alan Fenwick retired?
  15. I find he brings a intellectual component that is lacking in most racing writing! https://thestraight.com.au/author/bren/
  16. I recall reading a interesting article/interview (on The Straight??) about unevenness to certain parts of tracks with the watering of the tracks and how that can so play out in the run of the race. He had access and use mass data showing that to be so! That then leading to many races being very misleading into future races! Personally, it has meant I now watch and watch way more races that I bet into! Intellectually and practically, more and more my betting focus has shifted to MLB, but way more nickels and dimes stuff to what my horses betting once was. Perhaps a letter from Trainers Ass asking why?
  17. umm, what a crap site it is in time... Will not let me use the 20... giving me 200 bucks worth of grief!!!!
  18. to me, it was a nasty gutless comment...
  19. and son Pitman suggest too much water put on track on thurs....
  20. race 1/6 for our two acc here...
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