Brodie

Where is our esteemed Phil Holden? What is everyones opinion of Mr Holden’s announcement re the stakes distribution that was announced last week? Sorry, forgot we havent had it yet, must be exciting!

At least with the dogs, there is no driver Doing what the bosses have told them to do! The AllStars only race is ridiculous and why anyone would bet into it, would be puzzling?

Greg, to be fair, we do have a helluva lot more intelligent postings on here! Look at the interest we had in the Averos Spitfire story! Anyway, is he racing on Sunday, or is he having a well earned rest?

Now there is a thought, Happy Would make the NZ Cup a lot more exciting, all the AllStars horses being driven by amateurs. Would make it a helluva lot fairer, cos at this stage they may as well hand over the cheque and Cup!

I note HRNZ news dated 4th August 2020, but nothing from the CEO of HRNZ Mr Peter Holden, in regards to stakes distribution! We were told that we would get this last week and yet we have heard nothing!!!!! So our highly paid temporary CEO, that wants to keep the seat warm permanently, doesnt do what he says he is going to do? Think it is time HRNZ got someone in that is going to perform and know about harness Racing!

Personally think that is just an absolute joke that the TAB opens up a book on horses that have not even had their trainers nominate the horse for a race that is Well lver 3 months away! Wouldnt think there would be anyone back Self Assured at $1.90 To win a race over 3200m from a stand. Seriously stupid as even if it did start, it would be paying more than that on Cup Day!!! They wouldnt let some punters on for much anyway!

Michael if it really is Michael House! Forums are for discussion and peoples opinions and mostly people use non de plumes. Why on earth do you require someones name so that you will talk to them? If you are really who you say you are, you will be aware that your name is bandied around as being the informant! Whether you are or not does not affect too many on BOAY. however I would have thought that if you werent the informant, You would be wanting to stringently deny such fact, otherwise the rumour will remain

From what i have heard on the grapevine, Mr Holden is only very part time and this is not what Harness needs! Ken Spicer appointed Mr Holden as a friend rather than on ability and this is clearly showing HRNZ! If you want harness to continue, you need to be doing something about it before it is too late! Where is the big announcement?

What has happened to the announcement from Phil Holden that was promised to be last week, in regards to stakes?? Harness NZ is paying someone a large salary for a part time temporary CEO that has already shown that he is not up to standard!

If I was MH I would be lying low!

Wouldnt waste my time either on Friday! Has become boring racing which I didnt think was possible. Can not be bothered looking much more and no doubt the odds will be pathetic as usual on openingz, Has Phil Holden done his speech in regards to stakes allocations yet or was it just more spiel???

In case MH wanted a name!!!!!

The injustice is that how on earth is it allowed that maidens and unraced horses are racing for the same amount as horses that have won eight races or more????? Why would you bother owning a race horse in NZ unless it was solely for the enjoyment of racing a horse for the fun of it, without worrying about the costs?

Michael, it is a well known rumour in the harness industry that Michael House is an informant to the Racing Integrity Unit, and you must know that? If you are not an informant, then I wouldve thought that you wouldve dispelled the rumours that many are circulating! And yes, I am “ the Brodster”, the one and only!

Happy, you keep beating me to these postings! You need to get more of a life, lol! Yes a 12,500k race with the one stable with all the starters! Surely what is the point of it when the same stable is going to get all of the 12,500. no point running it is it, when you wouldnt know what horse they want to win or place? Unfortunately harness racing is not looking too promising going forward as owners are not going to be bothered supporting the industry, as there is no way you are going to be able to cover costs. Punting is not worth the effort at the moment with the severe betting restrictions! When they announce on Trackside that $400 @$1.30 is worth mentioning, then you certainly know that the TAB is heading to extinction with racing!

I would rather see horses that have actually changed location, as soon as it happens and not weeks later! Too flippen late advising the punters after the horse has already won!

Winning horse certainly did move around and did affect the line of Four Starzz. That horse was certainly a cert beaten for a place, didnt record it so can not look at it again. The thing is years ago their were enquiries and gorses were thrown out, nowadays the stipes and JCA do not seem to want to know about relegations, as it involves sork! Far easier to fine drivers for tapping a horse 11 times so they can collect fines!

They actually did show a head on, on Trackside!

Most people in the country wouldnt give a rats about the whip in harness racing? Animal rights groups arent even worried about it, and yet some plonker brings in the 10 git rule that just makes no sense. I dont condone overuse of the whip on horses at all, but putting a no. On it Is just so illogical. Basil are you possibly the plonker that brought it in?

Happy, sorry I can not fathom either why people would be backing it? Would be into an option lf would Faith No More gallop though! Seems like a well named horse!

Totally correct Longowner. I certainly dont want to see horses flogged. However the 10 hit rule is just blatantly irrational and was rushed thru Without enough consideration and is blatantly stupid. HRNZ needs to change back to what it previously was and it worked!

Correct Basil! Just as we know that you support the stupid rule! Ask the drivers if they support it? Racing is losing its enthusiasts big time due to several things and stupid rules dont help

It is 10 strikes inside the 400 metres with a couple of exceptions. even if you are tapping them with the whip they seem to count it. It is just a bollacks rule with no sense to it

Zambia is up against race winners, and is still a maiden. It has gone some good races but also some average races. I appreciate that it was a bit u lucky last start down south, but why it is favourite even against a poor bunch is slightly puzzling? Fields are interesting tomorrow, but the ones I like are unders at the moment and not worth the effort. Good punting to all that have a crack! Bring back the head to heads,

What on earth does an i formation has been lodged? Just watched Bob Butt’s use of the whip In the first on Fighting Fire, and he got fined $300 for excess as well! Lol These drivers are winning their races and getting fined for cheating as the Stipes say they are being excessive with the whip, even though not one of those drives punished a horse!!!! If they are cheating then the horse should be disqualified as it is getting an advantage!! They are not going to do this as they can collect revenue from this diabolical rule!!! This plonkers rule needs to be GONE!!!!!!!