Brodie

Very Sorry to hear that Ross passed away, Jolter. Always a great leveller, and puts things into perspective. Hopefully the horse goes a beauty tomorrow!

Ranga, you said that it was ok to treat people differently, didnt you say? So on what basis is it that business is allowed to treat people some people favourably and others not, in your opinion?

They were able to net $2,500 If that is what the NZ TAB allowed, then let every punter be allowed to net $2,500 and not just 10% of that amount! It is just blatant BS that they are allowed to get away with it, however the punters are voting with their feet And the tote pools are pathetic nowadays compared to a few years ago!

Ranga, do you agree that business should be able to treat people of colour differently to people of non colour.

If a small nostril is a mile off the money then maybe. Reality is that Minstrel doesnt win if Wild Irish hadve dropped in behind minstrel rather than Leading. Point is that Minstrel was shockingly unders at $2

You what? What on earth is that meant to mean? Hopefully with new executive replacing the previous ones. There may well be a change in thought processes, as they certainly need it!

So you agree with the right for business to treat people differently, Ranga?

We protests going on around the world at the moment if you had not realised, Ranga! What is the protests about Ranga? It is about people up and arms about how they are being treated and think they are being treated unfairly! The NZ TAB is treating many punters unfairly by allowing certain people to wager what they want and others can not do this! They put up the fixed odds and invite you to have a gamble! Some people are allowed to gamble what they want and many others are not being allowed To. If they want to limit an amount anyone can win per bet or race, then tell everyone and limit everyone!! If they dont want to be Bookies then change your name to something else more appropriate, as they are not Bookies at all. It is not right to treat people differently and favouring some over others

CP, not attacking Matt Peden at all, I am sure he is a great bloke. As everyone knows I am attacking the policy of the NZ TAB treating some punters totally unfairly. What they do with it is their business, however I can guarantee that it is having a huge detrimental effect on turnover and therefore stakes distribution to harness. The TAB need punters so it is up to them.

As Happy posted the NZ Tab has brought out the fixed odds a day before the meeting! This is fantastic and must be encouraged! This is fine for those that are able to get money on in a reasonable amount!!!! However, NZ TAB how about being a betting agency and accepting the wagers from punters that are now restricted to amounts that do not make it worthwhile. The odds are always in your favour, but you never play FAIR!! You let some punters on and not others, why are you so selective and u fair? All you are doing is ensuring that you lose enthusiasts interest in racing and that is going to continually be a nail in harness racings coffin unfortunately! Come on NZ TAB be KIND!.

What we can probably safely say is that the other stables will be running for minor placings at best. You never know though with the standing starts as to What you are going to get on the day! Hopefully everyone is allowed oncourse as it will be catastrophic for the club otherwise, as we all have to be very wary of this killer virus!

Huge improvement from Westeros in a better field than it has been racing before! Very good training performance to get a bit of a rogue into winning form! Must be the beach training !

Hope whoever gets on take the Clayton Bookmakers for what they can! They deserve to be cleaned up by those that can still get on! Matt Peden, Boomaker spokesperson for the Bookies in Wellington, how about. being a Bookmaker and let all the punters in NZ get their wagers on! I thought a Bookmaker was supposed to put up odds and then punters take them? You let some punters on for thousands and yet others get a pittance on!! Matt, Is this the way the NZ TAB are going to continue to operate?? NZ TAB arent interested in that, they pick and choose who that let wager with them!

Winning bet by a small nostril! Brave punter but had positions in the running been reversed and you would not have been collecting. Think I wouldve trailed Minstrel if I was driving the runnerup, and it wouldve won! Well done, I think?

We had a mention of 2 X $80 Earlier, lol

The second by far? Apparently someone put $2.5k on at $2 to win! Would be good to be able to get that amount on something, but personally think it is a very poor bet! I am due for egg on my face, but Minstrel is no value at that!!!!!

I am trying my hardest to believe that Minstrel Is at $1.70 fixed to win race 6 at Addington from the stand over 2600m! Yes it is off the front and got a start on some far better performed horses, but $1.70 seriously? Do I think it will win, can not see it and to have it at such ridiculous odds is a bit hard to fathom?

Wouldnt think you could restrict much more! Just not worth the effort and I am sure it is the same for many others! They only allow you to have a pittance on and then slash the odds and wont let you on again straight away!!!!! To call them Bookies nowadays is a insult to the old Bookies!!! NZ TAB give the NZ punters a fair go!!!

Just been looking at the Fixed Odds on the drivers challenges for Addington tonight! No head to heads for any drivers tonight, which not sure why not? There is the normal most points and most points without Mark Purdon which is good! There is normally odds set for drivers to win 2, 3 or 4 races as well! It is good to see the NZ TAB give these options as a lot of the racing at Addington on a Friday night is too much gambling rather than investing! Would be very interesting to knowhow much is being offloaded on these types of options during the night? With the TAB having a long overdue clean out of the underperforming executives, hopefully there will be some major improvements occur, and punters who pay their wages treated better than they have been! Onwards and upwards hopefully, as they need to welcome the punters back bigtime!!

A bit of a clean out of executives. The challenges were not caused by Covid19, there were major financial issues well before that! The ridiculous decisions made by executives, including the major eff up by John Allen and his lemon of a betting platform that is a noose around their necks! This Glen Saville, remains the manager of Customer and betting till later this year??? Has anyone ever heard or seen him doing anything at all beneficial for customers or betting??? Hopefully they can turn things around as they need major changes for the better or the racing industry is doomed! Doomed I say, Doomed!

Thursday or Friday night racing used to be great to watch! Nowadays, you are right, the racing certainly not overly exciting! Next to no promotion, fields far too even and you can not get much on even if you sort something out! You would think the NZ TAB would follow Cindy and be KIND?

Who is writing the comments in regards to the horses now????? Seriously, should be thinking about things before he/she writes them! Averos Spitfire in race 4 on Sunday, 47 starts and never run a placing!!! Comment reads: Fifths in the formline have been good but hard to catch. first four blowout. They are kidding arent they? Really hard to catch, and really does anyone actually waste their money on a hkrse that never runs a place, and they comment “hard to catch” lol. Jonny Cox back on Sunday and in a much better field than it has been running against! First dividend bearing placing on Sunday for the connections? Na, retire the horse as it is rather silly!!

Happy, nothing at all at doing a “Broderism” rant! Mark Jones has never really been backward in expressing his opinion, and that is great! Problem with harness racing at the moment is that there are some real muppets making financial and other decisions that has totally set harness on a path of oblivion unfortunately! From the NZ TAB and HRNZ there are some really bad calls and it is showing and there Is plenty of discontent now coming out as livelihoods are bring severely hampered. They need to hear and take notice of people that know what they are talking about like Mark Jones and Brodie. Mark has a fair point in regards to the handicapping if his horse at Invers! HRNZ it is a disgrace that you have not replied to Mark Jones but then again the CEO Is only part time at best!

You are right there are hot favourites in many harness Oz races! What I am saying is that when there is a hot hot favourite to encourage more money to go on, thenBookies need to take that stinker out of the fixed market! Not that hard to do, if they want punters to continue to desert, then NZ TAB keep up what you are doing! Punters are over the shorties and heavy restrictions!

Surely it is just as easy to manipulate a gallops race for head to heads?? If they dont like the head to heads on harness, why dont they have a group betting option of say 4 horses, and first one home???? The NZ TAB continue to have fixed odds with stinking hot favourites in the betting?? Why on earth do they continue with this Process???? They are going to get far more dollars invested with them if they take the stinkers out!!! It aint that hard to do, but then common sense isnt high on their task list!