Brodie

When a horse is a late scratching, why doesn’t the TAB show what the % deduction is for fixed odds Bettors? They must know what the deduction is when the horse is taken out, so why isn’t it shown somewhere? I have often gone to collect and receive a helluva lot less than what I was expecting, due to a late scratching! Can not be that hard can it?

I was told that bet restrictions under this new betting platform were going to be relaxed! Obviously, people don’t always tell the truth! Regular transmission resumed!!

The fog conditions last night were nowhere near as bad as other times when they have raced! Nowadays there is too much of this health and safety BS! Was there any real chance of anyone getting hurt had they continued to race? There was always a chance, but then again there is a chance when there is full daylight. I would say it is far more dangerous for the drivers, training horses on their own tracks with a bit of moisture on the track!!!

I’m pleased you left me out of the Cross dressing !

Will be very interesting to see how many North Island trainers send their horses down for the Jewels, knowing that they have got next to no chance of winning if they are competing against the said Stable with 2 or 3 runners? All starters get a few thousand dollars just for lining up which is good, but is it worth the risk, when they could probably earn more money racing at Auckland! Yes I know it is flippen negative, Brodie just asking the question and telling it the way he sees it! Hopefully the Jewels is not dominated, but then we know that they will be, as Addington over 1980m is going to suit them more than Cambridge and Ashburton over a mile!

Appreciate it that for many it isn’t about the money! However, unless you have a successful business or big savings, you won’t be buying harness horses and racing them. The average wage earner can not afford to pay training bills of at least $2000 per month racing a horse, unless they are in With others. I want people to own horses, so that racing can continue. Have owned horses over the years and still have a small interest, which has been going pretty well!

Your contributions are always valuable. As I say I don’t follow Gallops,in Oz or NZ nowadays. I did when I was a lot younger but too hard to follow form and racing not that exciting in my humble opinion. Chris Waller May well dominate group races, but I am sure it is not the same owners that are scooping the stakes, plus there are so many more races and opportunities for horses to be placed for good money. In NZ any race with good stakes are gobbled up by the one stable and same owners! I appreciate that those owners throw a lot of money into their horses and training bills, and therefore would want a return from it! However, does it make a happy place for all the other owners who also spend plenty owning and racing horses, and get a paltry return? No it doesn’t, and is it detrimental to the harness industry? Anyone with a business brain and is open minded knows that the answer is YES!!

Greg, surely that comment is in jest? Yes Winx won everytime, and won huge stakemoney. I am not a follower of Gallops at all, however the races that Winx won was not dominated by the one stable plundering all the major stakes!!! The galloping races were for massive money and even running in the first 5 or so returned the owners good money! The fact that Winx dominated every race she was in also massively affected the size of the fields that she was in as well! There are so many great stake money races as well in Oz that the trainers can send their horses to a different state to race to avoid Winx!! Winx publicity was great for galloping Racing in Oz, whereas the dominance of the one STABLE in harness racing in NZ is to its detriment, in many ways! You need to take your parochial blinkers off and see what is actually happening!

Hi Robert. Yes there are plenty of races that the AllStars horses don’t compete in. A helluva lot in the North Island Apart from the group races and Premier nights. Do you really believe that owners in Canterbury want to be racing their horses at Palmy ? Most owners want to own a horse capable of at least being able to repay part of the training costs, which today are rather sizeable! I do not beleive there are many new owners coming thru in Canterbury at all, unless they are in a syndicate! Why would you be bothered if you weren’t from an existing harness background, as there is certainly no money in it for you! Reality is that the industry is struggling big time, and is only being held together by diehard owners and enthusiasts, and as they move on, they are not going to be replaced at all, by the next generation unfortunately. The Jewels is once again going to be dominated by the one stable, we all know that! Yes there will be some that are going to be promoting it as being fantastic and we will get the same BS leading up to it. We will then watch as the one stable win everything and the same owners are shown jumping up and down with excitement, and the other owners will be happy to have had a Starter on Jewels day. The unfortunate thing is that they had very little chance of winning the first or second stake money! Some may disagree, but I can tell you now, it is reality and it can not carry on I definitely. Articles such as we had on The Box Seat in the last couple of weeks has done nothing to dispel the truth! Showing a mad scientist playing around with blood in syringes in a lab, just shows that all is not equal in the training ranks, despite what they say!!

Reality is as I have said many times, owners and trainers are over it! Owners are going to disappear and new ones not coming thru! Most people know that it is far more than so-called being more professional, end of storey! Harness is doomed, doomed I say, if this domination of major races continues!!!!

Cryptic Monday!

Sorry Ranga, I am not preoccupied with upcoming meetings and when they are! I take it as it comes nowadays, and have a very rounded happy life! Until the fields are out, I don’t know whether I am investing or not! Have been much quieter in the last year or so, as I co lid to be bothered trying to beat the TAB’s system! I will be back though, as the fields get better to invest on this time of year apart from the Jewels!

Till when? Jewels? If so your maths isn’t too flash!

Pay Me Visa was actually thrown into that race today! He was a multi race winner up against one race winners! He did go very good at Forbury as well.

Yes, you are definitely a plonker!

Flag, yeah don’t think he will win another race in Canterbury. Problem with Auckland is that they are all obi.es and Victor Tango’s biggest asset was his standing start ability to be first out! With the cost of training in Auckland, doubt whether it would be worth it financially!

What a stupid thing to say! Yes, the turnover will be increasingly dropping on Premier meetings due to the dominance and punters over trying to get a win div over $2.00! There are several reasons for reduced turnover on the tote nowadays!!

I have basically got a policy nowadays of not investing on Premier meetings fullstop. Too Much form, and most of the horses apart from the dominant stable are pretty close on ability. Give me a maiden at Forbury anyday. Great runs by the Alistair Black runners.

I can not be bothered having a go on Premier night when the iddd are so short and dominated by the same Stable. Not earth the effort, give us a maiden anyway! I am not too sure of the crowd size at Addington, but I am sure it won’t be very large, as punters are just not bothering to go out and back stinking hot favourites anymore! Unfortunately Premier Racing to most punters has lost its gloss nowadays! The Jewels will pull the people out due to it being during the day, and will be far better over the 1980m at Addington, but it will be dominated as usual!

So they aren’t going to want to be spinning the Blood for others!!! Is there any reason they need an elderly fellah doing the syringe work? Surely cheaper labour or is he working for nothing?

Good to see it has now been changed! The TAB must be reading on this site,

What current harness trainers using it????

Wondering if the Blood Spinning Company is owned by Pilcher, and he seems to be doing all of the work, why does it cost so much per time? Does anyone know what other harness trainers are having this treatment done by Mr Pilcher?

Interesting that the TAB has Oamaru on Sunday racing on the grass track!!! HRNZ has it Racing on the 1200m allweather track. You would wonder how they could get that wrong, wouldn’t you?

25 Trainers are using the Blood spinning? How many of these are harness trainers and how many are galloping trainers? I am unaware of any other harness trainers that are using it, so it must be mostly galloping trainers?