Brodie

Truth is that you agree with Brodie all the time, but you like to disagree to upset this forum!

Yes, Brodie has got the class, Rangatira and CrossCodes etc. will agree with you! Everyone writes differently, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Not too sure whether we actually need more racing from overseas to wager on, would prefer they cut out the crap meetings from overseas and concentrated on the NZ product!

John, agree with many of your points but not all! Dont agree that the driver of Enhance Your Calm did everything to ensure that his horse won, and that is why I beleive he should have received a fine at the very least! He was probably the shortest priced favourite on the night and was beaten! Yes the track was wet, which is a great leveller! However, the horse was by far the best horse in the field and would’ve won on a dry track as we both know! The horse was tired in the straight we can clearly see that, however the horse needed to have the persuader used well before it was, after Mark sees Bob Butt coming fast! It was a error in judgement by Mark Purdon on this occasion which I suggest is very rare indeed! Punters got badly burnt and due to a poor error in judgement so at least deserved to be fined! The irony is that drivers are fined for trying hard to win by using the whip in excess of 10 times. Bob Butt who wins the race for all the connections gets hammered by fine and suspension and yet Mark Purdon Who erred in judgement, gets off scot free!!!!! Absolute BS!

Brodie, tells it the way it is! You are entitled to your opinion, and try and defend a very poor drive. If you want to call me a whinger for stating fact, then I will be very offended, however I am not a rascist or old!

Winner came from 3 back the fence! Had no chance of winning at the 100m, and if Mark Purdon Used the persuader once or twice then, it would’ve won! His contempt cost him the race, and therefore should get penalised, as the punters have! Must admit, great to see Paul Nairn win with Bob Butt in the cart!

Just watched a replay of race 3 at Addington Premier night! The driver of the hot favourite Enhance Your Calm Who was unbeaten in 7 starts was beaten and ran second! I think the driver Mark Purdon thought he was being smart by not driving the horse out until it was too late, where the winning horse had the momentum up! I beleive this driver should get severely fined and a period of suspension for not giving his horse every chance to win! The driver did not show enough vigour and cost the punters that wagered on it plenty. Everyone including the AllStars supporters would have to agree, otherwise they have their blinkers still on. If there is any integrity in harness racing, the Judiciary will come down heavily on this driver, but we all know he will get a warning only, and be shown favouritism! It is only the easy targets that get hammered isn’t it?

You are right, I loved the 3rd race! Only just watched the replay as currently in Oz! Should the driver of Enhance Your Calm, Get a HOLIDAY for the lack of vigour in the straight until too late??? The driver thought he was being smart and he got done, which was rather exciting!! I think the wettish track has a major effect on the results so far as well!

Don’t care who gets in the Derby or not, AllStars will scoop anyway so pretty irrelevant! You would have a better chance of winning good money in a supporting race! Glad I’m in Oz as nothing worth punting on tonight! Yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn!!,

Yeah right! Too much Of it nowadays, leave me out of it!! At least it wasn’t trans!!

Totally agree. Generally don’t bother at all on Premier Meetings, as fields always have too much form. Also, would rather offload on a maiden or loose class field! Punting on Premier meetings will send you broke long term, especially with the one stable dominating and there being such restricted odds, not worth offloading!

As we all know, but don’t all acknowledge, is that there are some blatantly stupid rules that have been brought in over the past few years, that need overturning! Yes, this blatantly stupid rule of being able to wipe out a field and then the checked horses having to prove that they would’ve beaten the horse that checked everything! Then as everyone knows is the so-called use of the whip more than the permitted amount of 10!!! Stipes too busy trying to count how many whip taps so they can fill their coffers! The Stipes and judiciary decided not to have enquiries nowadays as requires intelligence to sort out! When their is an enquirey, they tend to take ages to decide when in most cases it is pretty simple to decide! Anyway, they make stupid decisions as well, including that one of Tony Herlihy in Auckland taking a short cut.

Would’ve been a helluva lot more sires being bred from as well! Doubt there was the domination as well by one or two sides tht we have nowadays! Bettors Delight and to a lesser degree Art Major have been dominating for too long!

Great fields with plenty of chances, and no stable domination! Ahh the good days of Harness Racing, when crowds flocked to Addington to watch the racing! Stakes were good compared to what the money could buy back then!

I am sure I miss the odd chance! Currently in Oz so I will have to keep my wits about me or I may miss a chance!

The fact is that Yole may have 40 horses at the one meeting which is pretty staggering, but they are probably owned by many different owners. Michael House dominates Manawatu and the fact is that the horses are owned by many different owners, so money is shared around! The fact is that the major stake money that the AllStars plunder is a,ways going to the same owners and is not spread around, outside the AllStars stable, this is what the problem is!!!! Michael House is winning races for owners that have horses that are now battlers and are not competitive generally in the South Island

Claus!!

Mountain out of a molehill,,and many are going to have egg on their faces over this! Yes I am sure there are a few drug charges, but no worse than many do every weekend!!! This Government is looking to make cannabis legal, so we can all drive around stoned! This Operation Inca is just a total waste of money, time and bad publicity for an industry that is struggling! The Barristers are rubbing their hands with delight as the longer things are drawn out, the more they get! The fact is that most Harness Trainers and drivers are not that financially affluent, and this BS is going to set them back many years due to costs and reputation! Wouldnt be surprised if some even leave the industry over this, which we can not afford!

No they wouldn’t, claustrophobic

Paleface Adios was certainly a champion and probably a better horse! However Destreos is still racing at a far older age and has had nearly double the number of starts that Paleface had!!

Yes Destreos does deserve a decent paddock, but while he is still winning, he must still be enjoying it! He is an exceptional athlete and there will never be another horse ever win as many races again and race over so many seasons again! He won a fair percentage of his wins at Albion Park and was extremely well placed a lot of the time, often racing substandard horses on a Tuesday afternoon for not a lot of money. Interesting that he has only won $800k from over 100 wins plus places shows that he won a lot of races with pretty low stakes! Destreos, certainly one of a kind!!

Good to have enthusiasts and some horses take time as trotters, but you would have to wonder why some bother with dogs? Sunny Sunny Day, must’ve thought is was a nice Sunny Sunny Day for a wee workout!

Joe Kidd, very well written, great minds think alike! I waiting for the Darksiders to come on And have a go at us! Thing is though, I am not even going to respond to them, and hopefully they will just get bored and piss off! I do know that Trackside could be just so much better for New Zealanders than what they are currently producing! There have been galloping races today from the U.S.A. That have next to nothing in the tote pools and yet we get to see this absolute crap with leadup BS! Trackside producers, what part of no one knows anything about these horses so they can bet on them , don’t you understand????

As you know any race that has so many AllStars horses in it, is going to be controversial! The TAB needs to sort out the racing timetable and screening of races on a busy night when there are 2 Harness meetings and a dogs meeting! We were told that we were going to get a better service when we had the 2 channels but that hasn’t occurred! we need to get these starts sorted and do we really give a rats if we don’t see greyhounds walking around to their starting boxes and having a dump?? If there are 2 Harness meetings then put them on the same channel and the dogs on the other channel, as I don’t beleive that harness enthusiasts want to see the dogs races, unless they are compulsive gamblers! Get rid of the racing from U.S.A. As well as not worth the time spent on it and no one knows the damn horses anyway!! Trackside needs to concentrate on the local product!

If you look at run up to the start, you will see that Copperfield goes into a gallop! He is clearly steered to go right so that it checks horses outside of him, so that he will get a false start!! The fact is that the 2 outside of Copperfield both get checked and Vergil despite urgings was never going to be in its right spot at despatch! Yes it should’ve been a false start but the fact that it was a AllStar affair I don’t beleive that Mr Lamb really cared! You will see it all the time, when a horse Gallops in the run up, the drivers steer the horse sideways so that they check another horse, therefore getting a false start! I believe this is a major issue that one day will ave a horse injured!!

Boring as hell race as could’ve been expected! Should have been a false start but who cares as they clean up,the stake money anyway! Someone had a big punt on the favourite and got beaten! Hopefully,it was stable money!