Brodie

When the ATC actually owned the land already and they still lost mega millions just highlights what an absolute bunch of plonkers that were involved, when house prices throughout New Zealand have blossomed!! Auckland owners were told how much stakes were going to be and ultimately just tragic. The industry can not afford to continue to dish out the money they currently are for such a poor product generally!

It is an absolute nightmare for harness racing in NZ if racing in Auckland is unable to continue! To be fair though, they must surely be a massive drain on the coffers of harness in NZ? The product that they dish up most weeks is losing money and it just can not continue to do this! Biggest population by far in NZ and yet they have bugger all owners and trainers, and probably decreasing by the year! The rot must’ve started when they started the apartment development and obviously they have been very poorly advised and will be their demise, unfortunately! Can not see how any bail out plan is going to be their saviour if the figures quoted are true.

Highly unlikely! Meeting should be underway to have last nights chaos to never happen again. Does anyone know what the actual reason for the issue was?

“Now you‘re in the game” apparently! what an absolute eff up on such a big night! Has it been out all day?

Interesting! You must be another of those nasty restricted ones? Ludicrous that a betting agency doesnt want people offloading!

Fixed Odds? Tote betting is so yesterday, Nowornever.

McAnulty will probably and hopefully gone after tomorrow and Winnie be back as Minister of Racing! Thank Christ the Muppets of the last 6 years of disaster are gone and hopefully never to be seen again!

How come you can’t get on? I can’t either, cos I am over the ditch at the mo and don’t want us on! Cant even see the odds ffs!

Michael, “The Brodster” doesn’t recall him ever saying that you weren’t bright? You have opinions which is what everyone is allowed in NEW ZEALAND, and great that you express them as far too many don’t! Your opinion may be wrong but Chief does let you express them! You are right in that you would have to question amounts paid out to the Auckland Club, but clearly they are just trying to hold the Club together. We need to have harness racing in the North Island including Auckland, but you are correct that they must surely be a drain on the coffers!! Turnovers are pretty pathetic nowadays in Auckland but that is just due to the cost of living due to a totally incompetent bunch over the past 6 years and the boring racing in Auckland. Not sure how we can get Auckland out of the doldrums though?

Exactly my point! Bookies not prepared to let Punters on for worthwhile amounts due to previous performance! I was under the impression that it is a gambling business and they should be taking the bad with the good? If they maintain their current stance, racing is in dire problems!

Gamma, Sarah O’Reilly is a very good driver, Junior or not. However, I maintain Carter Dalgety is every bit as good and in my humble opinion better. You only have to look at the UDR’s where Carter wins at close to every fourth drive, which is amazing for a Junior. Great to have these driving champs, bjt as we both know it is not always the best driver that wins it at all. It just depends on the horses that you draw, and many champs have been won by not the best driver, but the class of the horses driven.

You only have to look at most of the tote pools now, they are much reduced to what they used to be and that doesnt take into account of inflation. Yes punters are betting into the fixed odds, but the amounts being allowed on by the So called Bookies arent that big, as most of the bets announced on Trackside are not significant wagers at all. Questionable how harness is going to be able to grow, when punters are not allowed on for reasonable amounts, as the Bookies have got no appetite at all to take on the Punter! Havent bothered having an investment on Harness Racing for many weeks now as not worth my time with the TAB policies. I can afford not to have to offload on racing, however I do know that the TAB can not afford to continue to lose punters. Without attracting new punters then the racing is going to go backwards unfortunately!

If they have 98% being losing punters then they should be prepared to let a minimal 2% be winners, surely. David Seymour when he is in power is going to have someone looking at all the BS policies and red tape crap and hopefully loosen up on the AML BS limit of $1k.

So it is not about betting turnover at all? They need to be upfront with everyone and tell them they only want losing punters watching and betting on harness, otherwise if you are good at punting, dont bother!

License holders are reliant on turnover from the wagering public! So prey tell me why we are on betting restrictions???

If you havent been watching them on HRNZ webb site over recent times, they are a must to view. Greg O’Connor over the last few weeks has been posting a series of interviews with harness trainers and drivers. All of them are well worth viewing, the most recent ks with all of the O’Reilly boys and is very enlightening. There is one with young Carter Dalgety and others, so essential viewing and great to see some worthwhile interviews, as enthusiasts are interested in the history and background of the participants. Good marketing for harness.

Top 4? It is only available on account so is a waste of time for most! For the Punters who do bet on Top 4, how much does the TAB allow them to win? To be able to win the cost of a bottle of wine, in my case is just pathetic!

Sorry, not Kim Butt, but I think you couldve bought a lifetime supply of undies rather than backing Not Over! Hasnt run a place for 2 seasons and probably will not again, unless it is the West Coast circuit! Rising 8 year old so best days will be well past you would think, and todays field in the last was as weak as you are likely to get for race winners.

Walt, to be fair is there anything wrong with fake boobs? Far Better than sugar bags!!! You are correct, far better doing your own research, and choosing your selections! Thing is Craig over evaluates things, picks horses that really are not worth the risk for the return. He mostly selects the horses in the more tightly assessed races on the program, and any successful punter will know that is not the way to make money long term. Personally dont believe that ENTAIN “IS IN IT FOR YOU!!!!!!” The NZ TAB certainly was not interested in increasing the turnover on NZ harness racing over recent years at all!! It was all about making it as hard as they could for many punters to put on worthwhile amounts, and all about trying to keep the losing punters on board. They do this by money back bets and free bets! The money back maximum of $50 lol. Harness racing is only going to survive if they can attract wealthy owners into the sport and are able to maintain enough losing punters to make it viable. Problem is, are there enough new punters being attracted?

The fields down south are much smaller than they have ever been! Hopefully they get more horses in work a d able to race i. The future or tgi gs will become dire down there!

Lol I unblocked you Mike, couldnt do without your knowledge! You know you are a role model to many!😂

Michael, enjoy your postings you are such an educated poster lol! think you should have some respect for Chief, who gives everyone an opportunity to post basically what they want to say! You dont have to agree with him, and to be calling him a Dickhead, is not very becoming of you! Personally never met Chief, but his postings always seem well thought out and researched!

I have noticed over the past few weeks that the first 4 or 5 favourites place odds are all ridiculously under what they should be on opening!! You are probably correct that it is Entain’s policy to make it unattractive for punters to get on at fair odds! Not sure how many punters are actually still betting with the so called Bookies now, personally just can not be bothered at the moment and I am sure many others arent either. I do know the tote pools in many races are absolutely pathetic and they must be losing money? There can not be much being wagered with the Bookies when large bets are advised to us of $200 lol.

I was under the impression that if Bookies shorten up odds, they should be lengthening out others? Havent had a punt for many weeks now as odds are not appealing as well as fields generally too even and not worth the risk! Just having a gander at Addington tomorrow night and seeing what the punters are offloading on. Race 5 a very even field with many chances and the Bookies have reduced the win odds on 4 horses reasonably significantly one of them $3.60 into $2.50 and the others by a 2 or $3. Interesting that they have not lengthened any of the other horses whatsoever! Is this what is a normal practice nowadays?

Gamma, what track and distance and I take it that it is a mobile?