Brodie

Yes most of the PUB TAb’s do not give a rats nowadays, they just hole that punters jse the self service terminals. There are very few punters using them now as the interest from many is dropping off! The TAB hierarchy has made several stupid policies that is limiting turnover and profit and that is the major reason that they are looking to outsource to Entain!!!!! Punters are using Betting Vouchers nowadays rather than cash and none of the outlets ever hold enough cash to pay you out!!!!! ! And no, I dont want it credited to an account!!!!

Would like to know how much this GRINS actually contribute for the naming rights???? As Galah states it is going to have a short shelf life as it is only for the Big Boys and Corporates and highly unlikely to bring new entrants into the harness industry. It is also likely to be subsidised so hardly beneficial to the industry. Look it is great that they are trying things to try and keep the industry going but this is not going to help one iota. The positive about it is that they have listened and pushed the distance out to 2200 metres rather than the blatantly stupid mile!!!!! I hope everything goes well for “The Race By Grins” But as for interest from the enthusiasts it really is not worth the hype BS that the media try to push onto us! As Galah says a non win race at Methven or Addington has got far more interest as a punting proposition!

3 more sleeps till “The Race by Grins” Can hardly wait! Does this race really do anything beneficial for the harness industry? If it does, would love to know?

Not sure he would like soup? Craig I am sure is a good bloke but the fact that he picked all the winners on Jewels Day 50 years ago is a bit over rated isnt it? I dont keep a record of what he picks or collects but From watching his picks over the years he would surely be on the losing side of it? If People want to pay him for his tips on his hotline then all good but to be charging people on that and yet give them out for free and being paid by the TAB, just does not sit right!

Wouldnt know that, but why on earth do they persist with this very loud music as Newmarket has said?

To be fair the TAB employ him to tip out what he likes and the fact of the matter is that he is doing a great job for them! Should not be allowed with him tipping for the TAB and also getting income from his Whale Hotline!!!!

Newmarket you are correct, lunacy having so long between races in April! You are also correct, the fellah singing near the birdcage is a pain the butt!! If you want to hear music then go to a concert or a bar! He sings far too loud for where he is located, would be better located at about the 800 mark!

Gamma, there are already enough races fir the big boys and is a constant drain on the coffers of harness! My point is that in Nz anything to do with finance the control freaks in Wellington want to know where the money came from and where it is going??? You invest money they want to know! You buy or sell property they want to know! You win $1k or bet 1k they want to know who the hell you are and put it down to possible money laundering! You win at the Casino and they want to know who you are FFS! You form a trust and they want to know every minute detail avout everyone and everything! It is just a load of BS and it is high time we stood up to these control freaks and tell them to stop meddling in our daily lives! And yet these same Communists can give away taxpayers money to anywhere they want without questions asked.

Stand corrected, but we both probably know the relationship, and the point being made, was going off an interview Do you have an opinion on the situation?

Says it all really doesnt it? The horse was sore from the time the barrier pulled away you could tell in its action! Dont want to castigate the young driver at all, but seriously how could you not tell that the horse was not hurting badly? Not sure what investigation is required really, and what it is going to do? I believe the driver’s mother is a vet, and I think the driver is studying to become a vet maybe wrong so, it is really a but odd that the horse was required to run the full distance when people on TV could see the horse was blatantly in pain!

So they must’ve known the horse was sore by the look of it?

Gamma, well done. You add a lot of humour to this site. Very witty indeed.

Why wouldnt they just say not met reserve? Anyway, if someone has bought it for $3k I would be betting that they could’ve spent it more wisely! That horse was broken down unfortunately. Time for retirement for the very tough Mogul.

Watched on Trackside today the last race at Addington. Now I am no vet and have never driven a harness horse in a race but to my eye a horse ran the whole race and appeared to be very sore going by its pacing action throughout! The horse was Mogul, a warrior of a horse who I would say by its pacing action has run its last race! Not my horse so, do not pay the training bills, but personally believe the driver should have pulled the horse up rather than let it run in pain for the whole 1950metres. Surely the driver could feel that there was an issue with the horse today? Watch the replay of race and I would be surprised if anyone thinks the horse ran on sound legs today?

“The Race by GRINS” over rated beat up for the Big Boys! Do most punters really give a toss about the race? All it is is money shuffling and is more money laundering than someone collecting $1k! I hope the authorities asked all the correct questions of the slot holders as to where they got the money from to buy the slots????

Gamma, fields are far too even on Premier Meetings to offload to make a profit. If you are doing it for a bit of fun then fair enough to have ago!

I agree that there are punters and enthusiasts giving it away, due to the current economic climate. Personally not that hard to make good money if you put the time and effort in, however you are correct they do make it harder than it used to be due to restrictions and the blatantly BS anti money laundering $1k limit!!!!! These blatantly stupid policies that the NZ TAB have enforced is one of the major reasons they are having to outsource to this Entain outfit! Seriously the NZ TAB decision makers are deluded if they believe that their policies that they brought in are logical and to ensure that harness racing in NZ had a bright future! Certainly the jury is out about this Entain going the to be the Knight In Shining Armour for the racing industry in Nz, They are only going to be in it for themselves !

Yes very interesting the Addington have gone with the day meeting once again for the Easter meeting? Personally think they would get a better oncourse crowd at night than during the day, but maybe turnover might be higher as a day meeting perhaps, although plenty of meetings during the day. Good luck trying to make money on the day as the fields appear very difficult to sort out!

Seriously, are we really meant to be taking seriously the ones that tip harness horses???? On the whole they are terrible, and feel that they are there to encourage the mug punters to follow their poor choices! The Trackside presenters really have no idea and should stick to their presenting without tipping anything, as most are useless! Absolute joke when they are showing horses that have been racing on grass tracks and then they tip them as a good thing when they are on all weather! Not hard to make money on harness racing, but you will not do it by listening to the ones, that continue to tip out horses when they just arent going to get you a collect!

Personally given up wagering on Palmy . Not sure why young Wilson drives so conservatively ? They aren’t Locarno!

So how is Manawatu going to be able to race continuously when they have only 30 to 40 horses? Snowball effect, numbers could drop lower and stakes dissappear? Turnover can not be flash now!

Death knell for Palmerston North once Michael House quits. Too much of a drain on the coffers of harness just like Auckland is.

They wouldnt get away with it in NZ Gamma. The standard of horse in NZ is so much better in NZ.

Gavel House Standardbred Auction House which closes in the next day or so has some interesting lots in the catalogue! Michael House has 13 of his race winners from his stable up for sale! Mostly the ones that are currently in Palmerston North and raced tonight. Most are multiple race race winners so clearly acknowledges that they have met their mark and do not have a future racing in Canterbury. They mostly have reserves but some are sold for as little as $500. Is this a sign that this Michael House is about to give up campaigning at Palmerston North??????

The photo of the horses in the dust paddocks are shocking conditions for any horse. How is it possible for this Ben Yole to be able to train so many horses when clearly the wins are due to the fact that he wins becajse he has the whole field! Does he own all of these horses himself or does he actually have owners paying training bills to have their horses mistreated? Personally do not bother wagering on ozzie harness nowadays since the NZ TAB stopped providing race info on their website. Yes I appreciate harness Australia website has it!