mardigras

We're not talking individual events. We're talking the notion that 3 wide without cover is a negative. I disagree. It might be in some races. Might not be in others. And might have no impact in others.

I haven't offered an opinion on your methods. I don't ignore Black Type form. I ignore the class of the race, the performance is not ignored. I have already provided solid evidence that the time is the key ingredient to future success. You ignored it because you didn't understand it. And then made some comment to prove you didn't understand it when you went on about performances at HQ where more Black Type races are run.

You clearly never tire of making stuff up. There are any number of ways of winning at punting. I'm sure other people like barryb doesn't do the same as me. I don't suggest they fluke things. All I do is state what simply cannot be used. The things you do. They are not related because you are applying population based ideas to an individual horse. That is flawed. If you had managed to achieve a quarter of an education, you would realise that by now after explaining why that is so.

My points are very clear. Even though you can't understand them. And I don't believe 3 wide is any worse than on the fence. Each have potential positive and negative aspects, which over time when assessing the ability of a horse will be just issues unworthy of consideration - since you'd have to make 'something' up for every single horse, for every single race. You can recommend what you like. Please do. No sane person would trust your recommendations to be of any use - the same way your punting recommendations aren't of any use. You listen to all the people on the TV paid to present, trainers paid to train and jockeys paid to ride. And you think those professions mean they know what it takes to be able to punt well. That says it all. Gullible and stupid.

There is no surprise in the fact you have everything wrong. I bet most in UK/Ire. Then Australian metro racing. Then Australian other racing. And almost never NZ. It should be obvious why - but not to you. You are about the only person on this entire site who claims to be knowledgeable - but is incapable of putting even one horse up before it races. That is all we need to know Mr Fraud.

No one can quantify it because you can't apply a generalisation. You apply them. You've shown us that by your 'blue print'. Black Type is superior Blinkers on 3yos after Christmas 3kg claimers on NZ wet tracks. I could go on, but this is beyond you.

I dont. Every one of your blue print bullshit ideas is a generalisation. They are for morons. They are flawed. Yet you still don't know why.

What a load of bollicks. I'm a professional and I don't. Name one professional that does things the way you do. More crap. You don't know what 'that' time is - and you have already stated, you don't use time. I guess we'll have to remove Not Usual Current then. 7.1 L is more than 5L. You're a fraud.

Funniest post ever. The only part right is this "Id be losing" - since you definitely do. You have no credibility. Go and put another deposit in your account, the TAB needs you.

He's an abusive type. I try to be decent to people with disabilities. Most behave in a way that allows that. He doesn't.

And her name in the race started with a W. Nothing could be clearer. What either indicates, probably nothing.

You must have also missed the remedial class on 'context' because only an imbecile would have the slimmest chance of confusing what was written. Not surprisingly, you managed to. Well done.

So bends are different in Europe then and suddenly Pi doesn't apply. Very strange. Got any more generalisations?

Are bends different in the Southern Hemisphere. I never knew that. Maybe they haven't heard of Pi over there. Unlike you, I only comment on things I know about. You comment on everything, very little of which you know about.

Here, I'll help you - yet you're too stupid to understand. Definition of travel in English: travel VERB 1no object, with adverbial Make a journey, typically of some length. ‘the vessel had been travelling from Libya to Ireland’ ‘we travelled thousands of miles’ More example sentences 1.1with object Journey along (a road) or through (a region) ‘he travelled the world with the army’ More example sentences Synonyms 1.2usually as adjective travellingGo or be moved from place to place. ‘a travelling exhibition’ More example sentences 1.3 Withstand a journey without illness or impairment. ‘he usually travels well, but he did get a bit upset on a very rough crossing’ More example sentences 1.4 Be successful away from the place of origin. ‘accordion music travels well’

Oh dear is right. Traveled, not raced How's the remedial English coming along?

For sure. Certainly something worth looking into and wasn't at all negative to what you put up. No surprises to see Thomass go off like it's all a foregone conclusion. He would simply take the distance covered and adjust every runner by the variance - which is comic gold.

And I wonder how much he factors in for energy burned up by a horse racing directly behind a horse or with a horse close on its outside. Is that worth 0.5L or 3L? I'm not sure but he will no doubt have a factor to present when one of his post race selections needs an adjustment for it. Things like inertia versus things that negatively affect inertia, as well as many other forms of energy loss a horse can experience depending on where it is positioned. He wouldn't have a clue. So generalises everything - and comes up with nothing. Except a receipt for another deposit into his betting account.

There's nothing wrong with more data if it encourages participation. And some of the data may even be useful. A tool like this is worthless in NZ in my view, since the provision of it will cost more than any possible benefits from participation. I expect that most people that use this data will be using it statistically to identify trends of the data and winners. Without getting into a big discussion on that, many approaches like that simply won't work long term unless the 'attribute' is linked to something that is actually more than just a statistical historical group based association. If you look solely at NSW racing results, one might expect that the average win div in NSW races would have reduced. It hasn't this year compared to last year. And the % of horses that win paying $4 or less has also actually decreased, rather than increased. These might just be statistics, but use of these tools are not as yet having a noticeable effect to date on suddenly making winners more 'attractive' to punters generally. As for the resident idiot, knowing extra distance doesn't mean punters will be able to find winners more easily. The results to date agree with that so I'm not surprised to see that you think it will now be so easy. You'd only have to watch some European races where they are often quite happy to be 3, 4, 5 or 6 wide throughout (and around the bends). And actually want to be there.

Makes no difference where he gets his info from, it is always used differently when he needs to present support to his post race winners.

It may use up more, may use less. As you say, might even use the same amount. Pretty much impossible to say with any confidence in my view. As for Winx, I would have thought the track condition was the variable in regards which horse used up the most energy. Another one you'll have to just guess.

Yes, he has traveled any serious distance once - and was a flop. Maybe an aberration. Time will tell.

Interesting to hear talk of trainers/connections referring to the weight their horse is going to get in the Melbourne Cup this year. So there is talk of a provisional allotted weight. If this pans out, then I hope any potential runner would be afforded the same courtesy. Seems odd to me given the likes of Torcedor have mentioned 56kg and Withhold 52kg. And that the provisional weight is based on their international rating supposedly. It certainly isn't based on the difference between the two in BHA ratings since there is 12 points between the two. And I'm yet to see a horse with a BHA rating of 107 receive the mentioned 52+kg that has been mentioned for Withhold. They will be mightily pissed off if the weight they get has them in the doubtful range without another run - since they have stated they plan to race next in the cup.

What a betting agency NZ has. Now the top 24 in their market is over 100% market percentage. And people on here wonder why NZ punters are supposedly deserting the NZ TAB.

The same way you tried to claim Black Type was the measure of performance. Then I provided conclusive proof how wrong you are. Wide? With cover? Free of any interference. Perfect. I'd rather have my horse 3 wide than on the fence or hindered. Maybe just me. Your opinion is different to mine. But you think because your opinion differs, yours is right. Odd. And NUC got interfered with twice down the straight. Was not on the fence anyway. Paulownia had the best run of the entire field. Free running. No restrictions. Your post highlights why you struggle. You are so focused on being wide, you can't even tell which horse is getting the best run between the two. You did say Pi. And that was funny. And still is. And I have no idea what you think barrier has got to do with anything. Not another one of your generalisations. Got any more, I need a good laugh. How are those HQ down in grade stats looking?