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Maybe women are too smart to punt? Must admit, go to many shithole pub tabs around nz, not many women gambling.

As per normal, change the subject, now your talking Karaka Millions and breeding? Not surprised thou, you have probably had a think about it, and now think that giving these girls a chance to get riding, in a country far behind nz for equality, may not be a bad idea after all. Christ, poor old woman in Saudi are only just learning how to drive? You have no idea, but i suppose if you sit arbing in front of a laptop each day, everythings a little cloudy. Good luck

Insult to women? What a load of crap. You should see it as an opportunity that these girls may not get without these claims, get them racing. Who knows, if they go real good, no doubt in the coming years, the blokes will moan, claims will go, then its all good. Look ahead, not backwards mardi.

Yeah, not surprising that you cant see both sides in this. Not every Country has an even playing field when it comes to racing, NZ was one of the first to support female jockeys to the game. It has taken many years to be looked at as an equal, or in some cases, better than the blokes. So maybe in other Countries, maybe this is a good idea, might get more female jockeys riding, might pay off. Try keeping an open mind mardi,

About 48 hours

Yep

Ha Ha, here we go again

So first race was wrong distance as well?

Might be a good thing if you listen to mardigras. Turnover means nothing, so best option is not to get prople punting on nags. Just concentrate on sport.

Well said vege

If JJ is Peter Baken, i say welcome aboard,

Well, dont think she will be leaving to be a model!

Great, at last you agree to my first example. Thank you, we got there in the end.

Over and out for me, i told myself i was going to avoid these type of discussions. Anyway, thanks for everyones thoughts.

I think your wrong. So, we all agree 15 % taken from pool, if not when bet placed, when bets paid out, either way 15% deducted from total pool. Now that is on every pool, so for someone gambling each race, if you are even at the end of the day, yet turned over many thousands, somewhere along the way you have collected off many markets? So takeout rates would be better for tab?

Oh, ok. So where does the pool come from??? FFS, its the punters you tosser, No one knows who actually pays for it??? Jesus, well here is a guess. Maybe the punter, as i have said and others, TAKEOUT IS TAKEN OUT WHEN BET IS PLACED. You cant confirm otherwise, so you have just made yourself look farkin stupid. As for my earlier example, my bets placed throughout the day would have have given more money to tab, regardless of where it came from. For a so called maths genius, you can be a simple prick. Anyway, i have had enough, hopefully somebody else can put you straight as well.

You are the one struggling. Read The Crucibles posts, they make sense.

Thanks TC, thought same.

Barry, i understand this, which i thought was the case. But the scenario i posted, i cant see how i would not pay more to the tab with takeouts due to more loses/ wins?? That is what i am struggling with.

Not sure it is me that is struggling, you have stated you have no idea what or when or how the takeout is happening? Lets just confirm the basics first, Firstly i always thought, and in fact told by the tab that takeouts are deducted as soon as bet is placed, so deducted amount is shown straight away in pool. You say the opposite, so yes, maybe i am finding it hard to grasp. So help me, I bet $100 on a horse, pays $5, so $500 return, what does the tab takeout come to? I lose $100, so no takeout to tab?

So if you lose the $10k, tab get nothing of that either?

We have certain takeout rates on different bet types. Now i thought they were taken out when placing bet, here is the reason why. When taking exotic bets, TAB shows will pays. If you look at some small meetings, it is easy to look at doubles will pays, these are min $1 units, so its easy to see takeout has been deducted before will pays shown. Otherwise, will pays would be less that what is shown dont you think. Same as early win/ place tote odds, can clearly work out takeout has been taken. Your example is mickey mouse,

Great mare, how can it be boring. Wins over many distances, different tracks, good or wet, looks likely to get beat on many occasions, yet she zooms home. Best mare i will see in my lifetime

So if i lose in a race, i am paying a takeout? Regardless, the scenario above that i posted, must show that i pay more takeouts with my win- loss than curious did??

But, i am betting into pools. On that example, i have turned over $5k, won on some, lost on others. That 15% takeout, when does it get taken out?