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Vendor not sounding very forthright - or, frankly, honest at this point. Are you able to say Freda whether the sale is a one-off type situation from a small player or a vendor who more regularly trades? (rest assured - not trying to idenitfy anyone here - just wanting to know whether horses are the vendor's business or it's more a case of someone who is wet behind the ears /new to buying or selling horses....) J.

BarryB - I think you had more good ideas there than I've heard from anywhere "official" inteh last 12mo ... J.

Agree Chestnut. Butin saying that we can all probably name stallions - past and current- who have a (justified) reputation for tending to throw tough customers as far as their progeny ....

Hi Folks Got the thinking cap on for stallions this year ... I am interested in anyone's experience (good/bad/indifferent) with sending mares to Rich Hill - please post of PM if this is more appropriate. Also interested in what experience anyone might have with progeny of Shocking or Jimmy Choux. Thanks in advance. Jess

Sounds like a typical sentencing day in district court to me. Firm reprimands in fancy words - frantic finger-wagging - final final FINAL (this time I really mean it) warnings - and at the end of it - for the bit that really counts (the defendants pretty well sleep through the wahhhing until the business end of proceedings ....) - a thorough slapping with the traditional wet bus ticket. That'll teach `im alright ... won't do THAT ever again ....

Interesting stuff Rowley. Thanks for taking the trouble to post. Need more threads and posts on this breeding forum .... Best of luck with yours! J.

Hi Rowley - Prom Queen well above average in my book! Are you hands on with your horses? - if so - how do you find their temperaments? I have heard SE is pretty hot eg. when parading - but there could have been reasons at the time for this and some quiet horses throw hot-heads and vice versa - so from a distance it's hard to judge ... He looks a very muscular type from his pictures and wonder if this tends to come through in his foals ... Kind rgds, J

Do you have any conncetion with the stallion or the stud Rowley?

With this sort of response the industry is playing into the hands of those who want whips - and racing - banned.

Who does that leave using Otaki as a training base these days?

I'm not arguing the point one way or the other Thomass - merely observing. In fact back in the day - I heard that another jockey remounted someone else's fallen runner and finished the course! When did the rule change?

Interesting as I'm sure I've previously seen jockeys remount their horses after falls (albeit not that dramatic/outstanding) in order to weigh in and claim some of the spoils - never seen vets 'n' docs scamper onto the track in the midst of it all to give them the green light .... Perhaps that's what A Kuru's quick word with the clerk of the course was about? - maybe the clerk's a particularly erudite and well qualified man and gave the all-clear for man and beast to continue .... ?

Heard T Lee's call on radio - had to then go watch on TV - the call was no exaggeration - incredible effort by Aaron Kuru. Also fabulous, gutsy effort by the horse to pick itself up and still get up to win. (would love to know what Aaron said to the clerk of the course after he got back on and galloped off ... ?)

Greetings Hedley and Kakama ....yes indeed! Don't have any that I've bred racing there but have connections with one further south this week so wish us luck ... Yep quite wet many places for June ... it can be quite a dry month some years but not 2018 it seems ... All the best, J

In 2017 I received it on today's date - 12 June. A big moment - albeit it's all online these days. Almost feel like taking a day's leave to study the options .... ? Awaiting with anticipation. Any sign of it yet around the motu? J.

Hi `yarners - been busy with the nose to the grindstone (to support the ponies - who are with child you know ?) - so didn't see the timing of the announcement. But hopefully in good time so at least people didn't have to travel their horses only to cop a wash-out - something to be a little thankful for at least. Best of luck to all for the reserve date. J.

Do you people really expect the lad to learn humility or grace from "big red" ?

Nice link Chief ... always brings a smile to my face seeing a well horse just having fun being a well horse .. let alone the champ .. (mine much the same albeit they're not champs, have foal-bellies and the ground a bit more damp underfoot ... ? ) Cheers, J

HEDLEY!!! Just spotted you on here Squire - a warm welcome to you on a cold winter's night. Three cheers for your esteemed presence. It's always been a pleasure Sir ... ? Jess

Suzie the waitress shouted morning tea for the stable as a farewell gift before she returned to Sth Africa ... musta been some bad juice in it ... ?

Why haven't they Thomarss? The question should be - why would they? Why did he? Why would anyone? ?

Generally more confidence in their industry over there part of it no doubt ...

Anyone know how Lisa C is faring these days?

This is a very interesting point Freda. You might assume as much testing as possible would be undertaken in an effort to have as clean & safe a sport/industry as possible. Most people know - the more effort you put into testing/detecting/investigating - the more you will catch (in the initial stages at least, before the message/consequences hit home). But it could also be a case of be careful what you wish for. I know of a Police officer who was expert at apprehending drink drivers. Nothing sneaky or underhand - all standard stuff - just dedicated to road safety and seemed to have a real knack for catching them. I thought the officer's bosses would be delighted - but in fact there was some talk the officer, by prosecuting all these drivers, was making the campaign to reduce drink driving look ineffective. Soon after the officer was moved to other duties. So I am left wondering as far as drugs in racing - just how effective do they want to be in detecting drug use by the participants - and could they handle the outcome if they went hard-out?? J.

They might be a bit of a disparate bunch but all have (presumably) their licence issued by NZTR so I don't think that needs to be an impediment Boxie. There is an ability to educate via that central role. Yep I get the obvious "attractions" of the drug - the mistake many make is thinking they can use it to aid/control various things (their weight/energy levels/pleasure) - and thattheycan control their use of it. But in many cases it ends up controlling them. People become desperate to feed their addiction. People who will do almost anything to secure the drug. It doesn't take much imagination to understand that this too, represents another whole level of risk in the context of the racing industry and its integrity.