Chief Stipe Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 COX PLATE 1. ROMANTIC WARRIOR (D Shum) J McDonald - 59 - 7 2. ZAAKI (A Neasham) D Lane - 59 - 12 3. MR BRIGHTSIDE (B, W & JD Hayes) C Williams - 59 - 2 4. ALLIGATOR BLOOD (G Waterhouse & A Bott) T Clark - 59 - 5 5. GOLD TRIP (C Maher & D Eustace) M Zahra - 59 - 8 6. MY OBERON (A Neasham) J Mott - 59 - 4 7. PINSTRIPED (E Jusufovic) B Allen - 59 - 11 8. FANGIRL (C Waller) Z Purton - 57 - 9 9. DUAIS (E Cummings) D Oliver - 57 - 1 10. VICTORIA ROAD (A O'Brien) B Shinn – 56.5 - 6 11. MILITARIZE (C Waller) Z Lloyd (a) – 49.5 - 3 12. KING COLORADO (C Maher & D Eustace) M Dee – 49.5 - 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 I like Alligator Blood, Fangirl and Militarize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 My 3 are Alligator Blood, Romantic Warrior, Mr Brightside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Mine are Mr Brightside,Victoria Rd,and Militarize. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 The 'Alligator' (former Queenslander 🏆😄) to lead them all the way !! with Militarize with no weight on him and Mr Brightside with his Gun barrier draw at 2, are the placers !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I actually think it's a good Cox Plate, an even betting race. It is the only race I bet on all year at Moonee Valley, horrible racecourse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Alligator Blood my sentimental choice. An amazing horse to be performing at this level, never mind at all, for what he has overcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Freda said: Alligator Blood my sentimental choice. An amazing horse to be performing at this level, never mind at all, for what he has overcome. What has he overcome?Always been sound hasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Might swap out Fangirl for Romantic Warrior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: What has he overcome?Always been sound hasn't he? Sigh.... He was nearly retired in 2020 due to spinal issues requiring extensive spinal surgery. https://www.vrc.com.au/latest-news/alligator-blood-back-with-a-vengeance/ I loved the story about the carrot exercise where they put a carrot between his front legs to get him to stretch his back. Apparently he ate bags of them. Probably something @Freda you should add to the training programme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Sigh.... He was nearly retired in 2020 due to spinal issues requiring extensive spinal surgery. https://www.vrc.com.au/latest-news/alligator-blood-back-with-a-vengeance/ I loved the story about the carrot exercise where they put a carrot between his front legs to get him to stretch his back. Apparently he ate bags of them. Probably something @Freda you should add to the training programme. I might even try the carrot exercise myself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Sigh.... He was nearly retired in 2020 due to spinal issues requiring extensive spinal surgery. https://www.vrc.com.au/latest-news/alligator-blood-back-with-a-vengeance/ I loved the story about the carrot exercise where they put a carrot between his front legs to get him to stretch his back. Apparently he ate bags of them. Probably something @Freda you should add to the training programme. He also had ownership irregularities from memory and had some of his early wins taken off him. I forget the exact details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Doomed said: I might even try the carrot exercise myself. Interesting that the article says a third of thoroughbreds suffer from the condition but it only seriously affects a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Doomed said: He also had ownership irregularities from memory and had some of his early wins taken off him. I forget the exact details. Remember the drama when he got caught in traffic due to a crash on his way to the Magic Millions. He suffered badly from the heat while stuck in the float for four hours. The races were delayed and he had a police escort to the track. He duly won. He subsequently lost the race because he returned a positive to regumate - which is only normally given to mares to regulate them when in season. The owner sued Queensland Racing and took them to the Supreme Court and have the disqualification overturned. All sorts of issues ongoing from that descision. https://www.racing.com/news/2022-12-24/news-industry-alligator-bloods-disqualification-voided As for the ownership issues - the original owner went bust and was ineligible to keep owning him. I believe there is still an ongoing court case with Queensland racing over that issue. Gerry Harvey stepped up bought him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Doomed said: I might even try the carrot exercise myself. Freda's best horses do daily carrot exercises 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, curious said: Freda's best horses do daily carrot exercises Reminds me of my best horse. She would be asleep in her stall prior to track work or a race. Relaxed as. When it came time to saddle up you'd scratch her head and and show her the saddle. She'd give her head a good shake and wakeup. Next you placed the saddle on her back with the straps undone. She'd stretch each leg one by one then stretch as far forward with her front legs together and as far back with her back legs as she could with her stomach just about touching the ground. When I first saw her do it I thought she was going to break every tendon in her body. Once she'd done that she'd light up and mean business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Reminds me of my best horse. She would be asleep in her stall prior to track work or a race. Relaxed as. When it came time to saddle up you'd scratch her head and and show her the saddle. She'd give her head a good shake and wakeup. Next you placed the saddle on her back with the straps undone. She'd stretch each leg one by one then stretch as far forward with her front legs together and as far back with her back legs as she could with her stomach just about touching the ground. When I first saw her do it I thought she was going to break every tendon in her body. Once she'd done that she'd light up and mean business. Nice story Chief.You must be proud of that horse...what's it's...name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Like to see Militarize , but he had a very tough run in the Guineas. AB & Mr B with Gold Trip running on for 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Gold Trip the value for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I'm told Romantic Warrior will towel this field(by a good judge). Can break 2.00 for 2000m ,has form behind Golden 60....so its Romantic Warrior ,Mr Brightside and Victoria Rd for me now. Gone off the 3.y.o's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: I'm told Romantic Warrior will towel this field(by a good judge). Can break 2.00 for 2000m ,has form behind Golden 60....so its Romantic Warrior ,Mr Brightside and Victoria Rd for me now. Gone off the 3.y.o's. I think Romantic Warrior is way over bet on ability and likely to be further so with the world tote pool. That makes some of the others very good value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, curious said: I think Romantic Warrior is way over bet on ability and likely to be further so with the world tote pool. That makes some of the others very good value. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 26/10/2023 at 11:40 AM, Chief Stipe said: Interesting that the article says a third of thoroughbreds suffer from the condition but it only seriously affects a few. Yes, I lost a nice horse as a result. Cost made surgery not an option. But not only thoroughbreds suffer, warmbloods and part-breds do too. I venture to suggest the condition may be even more debilitating [ although probably not as publicly visible ] for sporthorses, who have to suffer the fat arse of some overweight female for hours, not minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 27/10/2023 at 7:17 PM, holy ravioli said: I'm told Romantic Warrior will towel this field(by a good judge). Can break 2.00 for 2000m ,has form behind Golden 60....so its Romantic Warrior ,Mr Brightside and Victoria Rd for me now. Gone off the 3.y.o's. 2 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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