Newmarket Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Well, looking at that Race 8 I doubt that will be the end of racing there today. Pretty shit track, average riders etc. Watched plenty Aus racing lately, hardly ever see a jockey fall. Yet in NZ, hardly a day goes by without someone falling off somewhere…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Well, looking at that Race 8 I doubt that will be the end of racing there today. Pretty shit track, average riders etc. Watched plenty Aus racing lately, hardly ever see a jockey fall. Yet in NZ, hardly a day goes by without someone falling off somewhere…. Clipped heels by the look of it. Thought the track looked good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, curious said: Clipped heels by the look of it. Thought the track looked good. Another jockey off race 9??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Another jockey off race 9??? Just watched that. Its kinda funny,but i suppose we shouldn't laugh. Looked like terry mosely just fell off after the horse jumped out good. Maybe he forgot to put his foot in the irons on one side?He sat on the side of the stalls long enough before the start and only jumped on just before they started. Edited February 3 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Certainly looks like he lost an iron or broke a leather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, curious said: Certainly looks like he lost an iron or broke a leather. Yeah, comedy isn’t it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I shouldn't laugh and I'm glad he's seemingly not hurt. Terry's jumped out of the gates more than most. Hardly likely to just fall off and he was right by the starter if he wasn't ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Every time I see pictures of Wingatui on trackside or photos of horses in the birdcage, always seems their hardly anyone there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Every time I see pictures of Wingatui on trackside or photos of horses in the birdcage, always seems their hardly anyone there. Why aren't you there to tell us ? Isn't it your neck of the woods ? Come in Doomed....he will have the info ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, TAB For Ever said: Why aren't you there to tell us ? Isn't it your neck of the woods ? Come in Doomed....he will have the info ! You seem fascinated by me TAB. I'm not gay. Not even ambidextrous. Mikey does have a good point. I was surprised trackside kept showing video of the totally empty stands. I would have thought they would have instructions to try and show there was someone there somewhere. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 hours ago, curious said: Clipped heels by the look of it. Thought the track looked good. BOURBON CHIQUE (J Kamaruddin) - Clipped a heel and blundered badly passing the 500 metres, dislodging the rider, who was uninjured. After interviewing riders and reviewing replays, it was established BOURBON CHIQUE was navigating a tight run between runners, lay inwards as the field made the point of the bend, becoming awkwardly placed and clipping the heels of RU BRADAR, dislodging the rider. Stewards were satisfied no rider was at fault and took the matter no further. Lost the two front racing plates during the running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, curious said: Certainly looks like he lost an iron or broke a leather. BURGIE (T Moseley) - Lost the use of his right iron on jumping, which had come loose after contacting the side of the barrier, with the rider becoming unbalanced and dislodged shortly after, and as a result hampering LORD DARCI. T Mosely was examined by St John paramedics and found to be uninjured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 hours ago, Doomed said: You seem fascinated by me TAB. I'm not gay. Not even ambidextrous. Mikey does have a good point. I was surprised trackside kept showing video of the totally empty stands. I would have thought they would have instructions to try and show there was someone there somewhere. Maybe they could get cardboard cutouts but Wingatui always looks like a place with very little atmosphere, maybe I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, mikeynz said: Maybe they could get cardboard cutouts but Wingatui always looks like a place with very little atmosphere, maybe I'm wrong. Unfortunately wouldn't be the only venue that looks that way, shame though being a feature meeting,some of the mid week meetings, you'd find more life in a funeral parlour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/3/2024 at 7:45 PM, Doomed said: You seem fascinated by me TAB. I'm not gay. Not even ambidextrous. Mikey does have a good point. I was surprised trackside kept showing video of the totally empty stands. I would have thought they would have instructions to try and show there was someone there somewhere. Yes Doomed I an fascinated by your posts as you have the ability to analyse on-course crowds, field size , stakes payment ,betting, programmes , horse ratings etc Your analysis is deep and thoughtful with a very strong South Island and small club bias, but then you throw us all out by declaring you have virtually lost interest in racing .Bit like Collins Dictionary losing interest in words ! So when I see a negative thread about Wingatui and its lack of crowd and high stakes etc I know you will be soon talking up the likes of Waikouaiti , Timaru and Reefton. I assume this must be in your neck of the woods and right up your alley. ! Some folks on here talk up the good old days of Southern Racing , and the versatile tracks they have which on a good day provide a better surface to the higher-rated , more favoured ones. My theory is that Wingatui has been rusting away for many decades , along with others like Timaru etc but Otago was well represented at the head table of NZ Racing and held its status earned 140 years ago. Plus the course actually looks OK on TV..a good size in rural setting etc Plus it is the most central course between Southland and Canterbury . Otago used to have a stack of horses ,not now. They still have the Andertons of course , legendary family of NZ racing and have managed to hold on to some group/Listed races better than many.And cos they have some nice dates their turnover edges ahead of most other Southern clubs. So Doomed and Wingatui has a ring to it. Of course Forbury Park , just over the hill has recently rusted away completely and that demise started about 1985. One of two trot tracks in South Island with night lights and often had great crowds and hosted Interdoms. Dunedin is a University city...it dominates ...with Scottish Heritage. The people make omelettes without breaking any eggs !They are mean ,they bet little and the students mainly spend on beer.Plus it is bitterly cold in winter so allocation of Winter nights not good.And few horses trained there ! But , somehow Wingatui still gets plenty of dates........but very easy to see why Waikouaiti moved away from New Years Day..twice I went there and it called off cos turns were a skating rink. In year 2019 [chosen at random] Waikouaiti only had 6 xraces ,46 x horses and did $790k turnover and $385k Export TO Stakes paid were $67k [maybe a postponment ?] ,while NZTR paid them $119,k. .In 2019 Wingatui had 13 meetings and did $14mil Turnover and $13 mil Export. Stakes paid $2.03 mill and NZTR paid them $2.654 . In 2023 season Waikouaiti in February did $1.875 mill t/0 and $1.653m Export. But youll love the stakes paid.....$294 k Otago had 11 x meetings for $12.544m TO and $7.987 mil Export . Wingatui also has a Beaumont meeting which I think is a dual code with harness. So Doomed , keep up the observations...I noted on Saturday at main Melbourne meeting that the Caulfield track looked like a ploughed paddock ,and there was at least 1 x Group 3 with 5 x starters and on TV there was very little in the way of people in camera shot . I thought Doomed will be on to this ! Should be good crowd at Wairarapa tomorrow...their big day ! Bet responsibly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 12 hours ago, TAB For Ever said: Yes Doomed I an fascinated by your posts as you have the ability to analyse on-course crowds, field size , stakes payment ,betting, programmes , horse ratings etc Your analysis is deep and thoughtful with a very strong South Island and small club bias, but then you throw us all out by declaring you have virtually lost interest in racing .Bit like Collins Dictionary losing interest in words ! So when I see a negative thread about Wingatui and its lack of crowd and high stakes etc I know you will be soon talking up the likes of Waikouaiti , Timaru and Reefton. I assume this must be in your neck of the woods and right up your alley. ! Some folks on here talk up the good old days of Southern Racing , and the versatile tracks they have which on a good day provide a better surface to the higher-rated , more favoured ones. My theory is that Wingatui has been rusting away for many decades , along with others like Timaru etc but Otago was well represented at the head table of NZ Racing and held its status earned 140 years ago. Plus the course actually looks OK on TV..a good size in rural setting etc Plus it is the most central course between Southland and Canterbury . Otago used to have a stack of horses ,not now. They still have the Andertons of course , legendary family of NZ racing and have managed to hold on to some group/Listed races better than many.And cos they have some nice dates their turnover edges ahead of most other Southern clubs. So Doomed and Wingatui has a ring to it. Of course Forbury Park , just over the hill has recently rusted away completely and that demise started about 1985. One of two trot tracks in South Island with night lights and often had great crowds and hosted Interdoms. Dunedin is a University city...it dominates ...with Scottish Heritage. The people make omelettes without breaking any eggs !They are mean ,they bet little and the students mainly spend on beer.Plus it is bitterly cold in winter so allocation of Winter nights not good.And few horses trained there ! But , somehow Wingatui still gets plenty of dates........but very easy to see why Waikouaiti moved away from New Years Day..twice I went there and it called off cos turns were a skating rink. In year 2019 [chosen at random] Waikouaiti only had 6 xraces ,46 x horses and did $790k turnover and $385k Export TO Stakes paid were $67k [maybe a postponment ?] ,while NZTR paid them $119,k. .In 2019 Wingatui had 13 meetings and did $14mil Turnover and $13 mil Export. Stakes paid $2.03 mill and NZTR paid them $2.654 . In 2023 season Waikouaiti in February did $1.875 mill t/0 and $1.653m Export. But youll love the stakes paid.....$294 k Otago had 11 x meetings for $12.544m TO and $7.987 mil Export . Wingatui also has a Beaumont meeting which I think is a dual code with harness. So Doomed , keep up the observations...I noted on Saturday at main Melbourne meeting that the Caulfield track looked like a ploughed paddock ,and there was at least 1 x Group 3 with 5 x starters and on TV there was very little in the way of people in camera shot . I thought Doomed will be on to this ! Should be good crowd at Wairarapa tomorrow...their big day ! Bet responsibly ! There needs to be a snore button especially added for your posts TAB4eva. Heard all this voice for the establishment guff before, its always proven wrong again and again and again! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 54 minutes ago, Huey said: There needs to be a snore button especially added for your posts TAB4eva. Heard all this voice for the establishment guff before, its always proven wrong again and again and again! Well Huey ,it is social media and it is Bit of A Yarn ! It's not the lets be cynical , critical and anti-everything column for old stale pale males ! Or is it ? Again and again ...... What your area of interest in NZ Racing ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, TAB For Ever said: Well Huey ,it is social media and it is Bit of A Yarn ! It's not the lets be cynical , critical and anti-everything column for old stale pale males ! Or is it ? Again and again ...... What your area of interest in NZ Racing ? Funnily enough... the horse! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyril Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Huey said: There needs to be a snore button especially added for your posts TAB4eva. Heard all this voice for the establishment guff before, its always proven wrong again and again and again! Agree about the snore button. I did doze off. Reminds me of a former poster who had the same sedative effect. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Cyril said: Agree about the snore button. I did doze off. Reminds me of a former poster who had the same sedative effect. And what Cyril do you like to have a bit of a yarn about ? You posted less than me !😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 2/4/2024 at 4:19 AM, Shad said: Unfortunately wouldn't be the only venue that looks that way, shame though being a feature meeting,some of the mid week meetings, you'd find more life in a funeral parlour. Alls not long for Wingatui. Young farmers comp had 120 spectators filling the grandstand according to the ODT, should add that to the Messara report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) On 2/4/2024 at 4:19 AM, Shad said: Unfortunately wouldn't be the only venue that looks that way, shame though being a feature meeting,some of the mid week meetings, you'd find more life in a funeral parlour. I actually saw cars in the car park and people leaning against the rail at Ascot Park today, bet its not like that next time for Sunday after Easter but if you can't drag a few in for a card like today's you never will. It does happen, good crowds, Riverton will do same,just not often. Edited February 17 by mikeynz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, mikeynz said: I actually saw cars in the car park and people leaning against the rail at Ascot Park today, bet its not like that next time for Sunday after Easter but if you can't drag a few in for a card like today's you never will. It does happen, good crowds, Riverton will do same,just not often. Riverton cup meeting quite an iconic days racing, similar to kumara, have witnessed it first hand in 2018 I think, had a runner in the cup and flew down from chch, plane circled for what was an hour, just when I thought we were heading back to dunedin, we got a break in the fog and in we flew, were unplaced in cup, but took the time to checkout the tracks down that way, winton, gore, Wyndham and invercargill, and the race day at riverton, nice area down that way, and great day out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Something that locals are aware of in any region, just a bit hard convincing the masses. Well done Shad for checking some tracks out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 9 hours ago, Special Agent said: Something that locals are aware of in any region, just a bit hard convincing the masses. Well done Shad for checking some tracks out. Thanks, certainly did enjoy my time down there, was good that the gates to the tracks were open, did feel a little sad for the likes of Wyndham, winton, which had closed to thoroughbred racing at the time, gore was a nice track, had to check it out as we'd won 3 races there including a gore cup, I have to correct myself as it was 2019, the year little miss swiss won the riverton cup, interesting how she battled around the r65 grade, then all of a sudden won three in a row, and either won or was placed at trentham, she just all of a sudden started winning, anyone know if the Beaumont track still exists, didn't get that far unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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