curious Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Meeting News Riccarton Synthetic Trials - Deleted The Riccarton Synthetic Trials that were scheduled to run tomorrow (Tues 13-02) have been deleted due to insufficient nominations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 What does that tell us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 It's not a good look. No matter whether there are a multitude of reasons why trainers don't want to trial this week, the impression given is that they are trying to force trainers to use the AWT throughout the year and the trainers are saying piss off. The AWT was always promoted as a handy thing to have for training and occasionally racing purposes during the wet winter months. Unfortunately, NZTR and the CJC always saw it as a way to eliminate all of the despised country tracks around Canterbury and North Otago. They have never accepted that it is Riccarton that needs the AWT and not Canty and SI racing as a whole, because Christchurch and the Riccarton track gets much wetter than the rest of Canty during the winter months. When they inevitably have to close Riccarton down for a year or two to totally renovate the grass track I imagine they will want to race on the AWT all year round as there will be no other options. I imagine this is the reason they are trying to get trainers used to racing on it in mid summer at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 (edited) Beats me. Why would you schedule synthetic trials when there's no synthetic racing for 2 1/2 months and plenty of perfectly good grass tracks about? OK for young ones that might need some gate practice but not much else. Edited February 12 by curious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, curious said: Beats me. Why would you schedule synthetic trials when there's no synthetic racing for 2 1/2 months and plenty of perfectly good grass tracks about? OK for young ones that might need some gate practice but not much else. Because you have people administrating that don't know race horses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, curious said: Beats me. Why would you schedule synthetic trials when there's no synthetic racing for 2 1/2 months and plenty of perfectly good grass tracks about? OK for young ones that might need some gate practice but not much else. Er...plenty of grass tracks ...? Ashburton which got hammered in the spring and Timaru, although a good surface, a fair way and cost to get there. Don't think there'd be too many keen. Shows the wisdom of getting rid of Motukarara and Rangiora, both 20-30 minutes away. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Freda said: Er...plenty of grass tracks ...? Ashburton which got hammered in the spring and Timaru, although a good surface, a fair way and cost to get there. Don't think there'd be too many keen. Shows the wisdom of getting rid of Motukarara and Rangiora, both 20-30 minutes away. Getting rid of Motukarara is a travesty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Freda said: Er...plenty of grass tracks ...? Ashburton which got hammered in the spring and Timaru, although a good surface, a fair way and cost to get there. Don't think there'd be too many keen. Shows the wisdom of getting rid of Motukarara and Rangiora, both 20-30 minutes away. When Riccarton was reconstructed, back in 1998, we used both mentioned above until things were ready. Very pleasant it was, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 10 hours ago, Freda said: Er...plenty of grass tracks ...? Ashburton which got hammered in the spring and Timaru, although a good surface, a fair way and cost to get there. Don't think there'd be too many keen. Shows the wisdom of getting rid of Motukarara and Rangiora, both 20-30 minutes away. When I said plenty of grass tracks, I was including those like Rangiora, Motukarara and the Riccarton CP, all of which are useable for trials (not sure the status of Motukarara) but have seemingly been sent to the sidelines. One or more of them need to be reinstated for that purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, curious said: When I said plenty of grass tracks, I was including those like Rangiora, Motukarara and the Riccarton CP, all of which are useable for trials (not sure the status of Motukarara) but have seemingly been sent to the sidelines. One or more of them need to be reinstated for that purpose. I'm not sure about Motukarara either. Harness still race there, although I don’t know how often now. Akaroa trots, I'm pretty sure still have a day. At one stage I heard that the committee were struggling to attract new and younger members, so were not in a position to fight for the gallops to continue. Rangiora is still a viable and important training venue, and had run trials successfully - and profitably - for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Freda said: Harness still race there, although I don’t know how often now. Akaroa trots, I'm pretty sure still have a day. 6 meetings. Two clubs. On the BOAY Harness forum the biggest and only problem is a lack of mobile phone coverage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: the biggest and only problem is a lack of mobile phone coverage. See, this is something I don't understand. This is an area money must be invested into, especially if manned totes are to be replaced with mobile phone betting. Why is there such stupidity on where money is spent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Special Agent said: See, this is something I don't understand. This is an area money must be invested into, especially if manned totes are to be replaced with mobile phone betting. Why is there such stupidity on where money is spent? Especially when the TAB need an internet link for their services on course. Wasn't there a lot of drama around places like Foxton not having race dates because they didn't have a data link? Why couldn't the TAB subscribe to a Skylink service and tack it onto the back of the broadcasting van? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Especially when the TAB need an internet link for their services on course. Wasn't there a lot of drama around places like Foxton not having race dates because they didn't have a data link? Why couldn't the TAB subscribe to a Skylink service and tack it onto the back of the broadcasting van? Be simple and cheap as chips wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Wasn't there a lot of drama around places like Foxton not having race dates because they didn't have a data link? Probably just used that theory to justify not racing there. It's called bullshit. Edited February 13 by mikeynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 22 minutes ago, curious said: Be simple and cheap as chips wouldn't it? Yep. Not only that but you could set it up so that those using the service can only access the TAB and their own bank account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 Gets worse though. Both New Plymouth and Hastings race meetings will also be deleted without further nominations. Can't say I recall that ever happening before but I guess they need to save the stake money from those to support the Ellerslie meeting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 23 hours ago, Freda said: Er...plenty of grass tracks ...? Ashburton which got hammered in the spring and Timaru, although a good surface, a fair way and cost to get there. Don't think there'd be too many keen. Shows the wisdom of getting rid of Motukarara and Rangiora, both 20-30 minutes away. Are any gallopers trained at motukarara? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, the galah said: Are any gallopers trained at motukarara? I doubt it but can't remember any ever being trained there. Freda will know more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, curious said: I doubt it but can't remember any ever being trained there. Freda will know more. I certainly can't recall any gallopers trained there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, curious said: I doubt it but can't remember any ever being trained there. Freda will know more. No, I can't remember any trained there but I do recall, way back, that the odd one or two would front up for a gallop, probably a farm-trained model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Did Ian Rogers train there at one stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, Special Agent said: Did Ian Rogers train there at one stage? He may have done. Yes, there was something ticking over in the back of my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, Freda said: He may have done. Yes, there was something ticking over in the back of my mind! He lived just up the road. Kept a horse at mine only a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 54 minutes ago, Special Agent said: Did Ian Rogers train there at one stage? Just looked him up. Last had a horse to the races in 2020 ,a horse called chorister. He trained an ex north island horse ,sandcastle to win an open handicap at ashburton in 2012,paying $40.Terry mosely rode.It was a noted front runner. Colours are red body with black arms with a purple armband and cap. Interesting what pops up if you do a search. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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