Shad Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Freda said: He may have done. Yes, there was something ticking over in the back of my mind! Did he train a horse called Kubiak, I remember this horse having 2 starts in the one day down south was his claim to fame,, Wyndham maybe, then had a start the very next day on the way home at Geraldine, or maybe it was a fella of Thomas that trained him,, was many moons ago, he may have been by swepshire lad. I have vivid memories of the mighty loader winning at motukarara, was oncourse to witness it, wouldn't have given him much hope when they headed for home, he certainly was a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, Shad said: Did he train a horse called Kubiak, I remember this horse having 2 starts in the one day down south was his claim to fame,, Wyndham maybe, then had a start the very next day on the way home at Geraldine, or maybe it was a fella of Thomas that trained him,, was many moons ago, he may have been by swepshire lad. I have vivid memories of the mighty loader winning at motukarara, was oncourse to witness it, wouldn't have given him much hope when they headed for home, he certainly was a superstar. Ivan Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 hours ago, Freda said: Ivan Thomas Was he the Thomas who trained Bonsai Pipleine and bred several good horses out of Shock Attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 21 minutes ago, Doomed said: Was he the Thomas who trained Bonsai Pipleine and bred several good horses out of Shock Attack? No, that was Robert Thomas, from Bermuda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Freda said: No, that was Robert Thomas, from Bermuda Robert thomas was a very talented man. He did have an interesting family history didn't he. He was particularly good at bowen therapy.A light soft tissue manipulation technique. I haven't met anyone better at it than him. His pre race bowen therapy sessions about 3 days before were a really good investment. Shame he moved to takaka, i think it was. I was speaking to a lady that does equine horse massages about 9 months ago and she was telling me she thought he was still up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 minutes ago, the galah said: Robert thomas was a very talented man. He did have an interesting family history didn't he. He was particularly good at bowen therapy.A light soft tissue manipulation technique. I haven't met anyone better at it than him. His pre race bowen therapy sessions about 3 days before were a really good investment. Shame he moved to takaka, i think it was. I was speaking to a lady that does equine horse massages about 9 months ago and she was telling me she thought he was still up there. I think the property he and his family had on the main road just out of ashburton was formerly owned by the old fella macpherson who trained the great trotter sir castleton. He sold it to a fella with i think clydesdales when he moved to takaka. I think thats right,i will have a look next time i drive past although the roadside hedges have grown a bit in recent years. Carlislie bay and hurrah were a couple of good horses he bred and sold to hong kong that he was particularly proud of their achievements. I read once where he now sort of lives like they did in the good life tv series,on a few acres and does a bit of fishing as well. Don't think there would be the stresses of being a horse trainer with that lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Sounds idyllic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Did he not take Bonsai Pipeline to Aussie, seem to remember him winning a good race around Melbourne Cup time. Think he may of had a dog or two, Greyhounds.?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 50 minutes ago, aquaman said: Did he not take Bonsai Pipeline to Aussie, seem to remember him winning a good race around Melbourne Cup time. Think he may of had a dog or two, Greyhounds.?. i just looked it up he won the 1997 group 2 herbert power stakes in melbourne. isn't that a lead in race to the melbourne cup? I used to follow australian racing back then but when you had all those imports from overseas running in the big staying races, i lost interest. Pretty sure from memory he had a pet dog,maybe he did try racing a greyhound or two like you say. Edited February 13 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think Bonsai Pipeline also placed in a Wellington Cup stand to be corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, aquaman said: I think Bonsai Pipeline also placed in a Wellington Cup stand to be corrected. Think he did too. By Waikiki Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 58 minutes ago, Freda said: Think he did too. By Waikiki Star. I think he was placed in both the Wgtn and NZ Cups. Don't think he won either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 So much for the cancellation of the Riccarton Trials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Much more interesting 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, Freda said: Much more interesting Talking about the past or securing the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Talking about the past or securing the future? You can learn from the past, Chief. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 43 minutes ago, Freda said: You can learn from the past, Chief. Did he train rhymes with banker, earlier in his racing career, I know mark nyhan trained him at some stage, a name from the past, can remember one of his racing at reefton the day the race winner went over the outside rail and was picked up at blacks point, gold dust, more the fact the rider forgot to steer her around the corner, then the club was told to shift the winning post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 48 minutes ago, Shad said: Did he train rhymes with banker, earlier in his racing career, I know mark nyhan trained him at some stage, a name from the past, can remember one of his racing at reefton the day the race winner went over the outside rail and was picked up at blacks point, gold dust, more the fact the rider forgot to steer her around the corner, then the club was told to shift the winning post. Yes, Gunna definitely had him later on at Woodend Beach and I'm pretty sure you are right that Robert Thomas trained him earlier on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I know we have gone off topic but, look how the energy has lifted. Ian Rogers to Robert Thomas to Ivan Thomas. All interesting in their own right and very important to the racing industry as a whole. This is what NZTR is trying to stamp out. It will be to the detriment of racing. We are recalling all sorts of interesting stuff from a long time ago. In contrast I can't even remember what won at the most recent Riccarton meetings. Te Rapa went past last weekend and I couldn't be bothered watching. NZTR are putting me off with the hyping up of the Grand Tour, the new licencing garb and stable audits, and the inept handling of the state of tracks and racecourse facilities nationwide. I can see why we want to look back and not forward. There were more laughs I think too. I mean we are unlikely to see another Ivan Thomas towing his horse to the races with such a little car. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, Special Agent said: I know we have gone off topic but, look how the energy has lifted. Ian Rogers to Robert Thomas to Ivan Thomas. All interesting in their own right and very important to the racing industry as a whole. This is what NZTR is trying to stamp out. It will be to the detriment of racing. We are recalling all sorts of interesting stuff from a long time ago. In contrast I can't even remember what won at the most recent Riccarton meetings. Te Rapa went past last weekend and I couldn't be bothered watching. NZTR are putting me off with the hyping up of the Grand Tour, the new licencing garb and stable audits, and the inept handling of the state of tracks and racecourse facilities nationwide. I can see why we want to look back and not forward. There were more laughs I think too. I mean we are unlikely to see another Ivan Thomas towing his horse to the races with such a little car. By golly Special Agent you seem a bit negative....have you considered Therapy ? I can offer support.....' If you change the way you look at things , the things you look at Change ! ' 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said: By golly Special Agent you seem a bit negative....have you considered Therapy ? I can offer support.....' If you change the way you look at things , the things you look at Change ! ' Sharrock seemed very optimistic today that the new OnTrack well-being programme can be there to help people with attitudes like that. Not so sure he was very keen in supporting small trainers with one or two horses in remote locations even if they have a decent sized car to tow their float to the races. On the other hand, he seemed keen to get starter numbers up and was very pleased that more older horses are making significantly more starts than they used to. Edited February 14 by curious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 hours ago, Freda said: You can learn from the past, Chief. Maybe but not when you are focusing on other trainers past winners when you can't get a start at the trials or the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, curious said: Sharrock seemed very optimistic today that the new OnTrack well-being programme can be there to help people with attitudes like that. Not so sure he was very keen in supporting small trainers with one or two horses in remote locations even if they have a decent sized car to tow their float to the races. On the other hand, he seemed keen to get starter numbers up and was very pleased that more older horses are making significantly more starts than they used to. Good to see Bruce Sharrock getting out and about and talking to interested participants. Seems to have skin in the game and a lot of Family involvement/history. How many turned up to see / hear him ? I'd imagine he doing his utmost to work thru the strategic areas of action and Business plan as instructed by the Board. Not so long ago the NZTR Chair Cameron George was being savaged on sites such as this for both his influence or lack of it in both Racing and the Warriors. Considering the positive initiatives ,changes and success in both his roles ,don't seem to hear from the knockers now ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) On 13/02/2024 at 7:39 PM, Freda said: He lived just up the road. Kept a horse at mine only a couple of years ago. Good bloke, often used David Wadley as jockey. Worked with cars in Phillipstown, had a good run with horses in the 90's. Edited February 14 by Rangatira 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 hours ago, Special Agent said: I know we have gone off topic but, look how the energy has lifted. Ian Rogers to Robert Thomas to Ivan Thomas. All interesting in their own right and very important to the racing industry as a whole. This is what NZTR is trying to stamp out. It will be to the detriment of racing. We are recalling all sorts of interesting stuff from a long time ago. In contrast I can't even remember what won at the most recent Riccarton meetings. Te Rapa went past last weekend and I couldn't be bothered watching. NZTR are putting me off with the hyping up of the Grand Tour, the new licencing garb and stable audits, and the inept handling of the state of tracks and racecourse facilities nationwide. I can see why we want to look back and not forward. There were more laughs I think too. I mean we are unlikely to see another Ivan Thomas towing his horse to the races with such a little car. Or dear old Frankie Stammers towing the Bomber to the Coast in a single float behind his Ford Escort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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