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When the deal was first done I was thinking along similar lines. 3 years however still to go, hundreds of millions still to be invested and revenue under performing. How long will it take to get back to even and is the continual input worth the slow drip back. That is Entain's problem to answer, not ours but if we don't like their product/presentation we are part of the equation in their decision making.

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19 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Sorry same rules for all here.  No censorship here,  no childish name calling, robust intelligent debate on all racing issues and no deletion or editing of others posts.  Above all no obsequious fawning to popular opiniom. You don't get that anywhere else but if it is what you like then enjoy that side.

Thanks for the drive-by.  Shame about Trentham - I used to enjoy going their 25 years ago.  

 

Interesting thoughts Chief !

I often don't feel your love.......with my robust intelligent posts !
Got harassed by the 'tight five ' from my first post !

Then recently the village idiot called me a fuck -wit which you seem to endorse .

Q...Have you ever polled your posters ,sought feedback ?

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4 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

Interesting thoughts Chief !

I often don't feel your love.......with my robust intelligent posts !
Got harassed by the 'tight five ' from my first post !

Then recently the village idiot called me a fuck -wit which you seem to endorse .

Q...Have you ever polled your posters ,sought feedback ?

Not sure what your post is about.  Can I have the readers digest version?

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4 hours ago, Wingman said:

Re betting down to lower fixed odds margins..don't believe everything you read.

Lots of Bonu$ betting money has been available! they must have a cost! Has some big punters been grounding out a profit? :)

I'm surprised the numbers were not worse! Tough times for many Kiwi's Currently, 500,000 having used Food Banks in last year..

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This tantrum from TAB For Ever has its roots in the post headed 'All talk and no do as been for decades now on track infrastructure'

On 26/3, Bloke; briefly took the post down a different path saying 'Rugby clubs had to address the same issues' and also mentioned how surprised he was that Wellington has won the NPC two of the last three years.

TAB For Ever (aka Oscar Madison), with an opinion on everything like his flatmate Chief Stipe (aka Felix Unger) gave his opinion and in closing suggested the best thing to come out of Wellington was the road to Auckland.

At this point I, Wingman, flew in and said "Ha Ha howeva you can't beat Wellington on a good day."

MikeyNZ was less impressed, didn't see the funny side and referred to TAB For Eva as a Halfwit

You now have yourself in a bit of a pickle Oscar as you said you were referred to as a fuck-wit when no such thing was implied as the term was Halfwit.

What do you prefer?😂

 

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30 minutes ago, Wingman said:

This tantrum from TAB For Ever has its roots in the post headed 'All talk and no do as been for decades now on track infrastructure'

On 26/3, Bloke; briefly took the post down a different path saying 'Rugby clubs had to address the same issues' and also mentioned how surprised he was that Wellington has won the NPC two of the last three years.

TAB For Ever (aka Oscar Madison), with an opinion on everything like his flatmate Chief Stipe (aka Felix Unger) gave his opinion and in closing suggested the best thing to come out of Wellington was the road to Auckland.

At this point I, Wingman, flew in and said "Ha Ha howeva you can't beat Wellington on a good day."

MikeyNZ was less impressed, didn't see the funny side and referred to TAB For Eva as a Halfwit

You now have yourself in a bit of a pickle Oscar as you said you were referred to as a fuck-wit when no such thing was implied as the term was Halfwit.

What do you prefer?😂

 

Only average detective work Wingman......Oscars flatmate obviously thought about his 'all talk no do ' editorial policy and changed it from Fuckwit to Halfwit. He claims not to change posts !

As a fellow South Islander to the village idiot , I thought he may even have the same post code as me as there are caves in the hills down my way and I thought I'd maybe smoke the loser out.

I guess us flatmates have every right to have an opinion on everything...I cant remember digressing off the subject of Racing much tho with my International experience I can yarn a bit about Rugby. But Chiefs MBA and my 3 x years in the 5th Form of Christ College does give us a pretty good combined CV.

So wingman ..spread your tiny wings and fly away !

I still await an answer from Chief if it OK to use the word Fuck-wit .

 

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8 hours ago, TAB For Ever said:

Only average detective work Wingman......Oscars flatmate obviously thought about his 'all talk no do ' editorial policy and changed it from Fuckwit to Halfwit. He claims not to change posts !

No posts have been changed.  Given the hour that you posting it would appear it was a late night at the RSA on April Fools Day.

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11 hours ago, TAB For Ever said:

I still await an answer from Chief if it OK to use the word Fuck-wit .

Depends if it is used as a Term of Endearment or not.  Where was it posted?  

I will point out though that your rose tinted honey glazed posts of positividdy do touch the anger nerves of people who have real skin in the game and are chipping coal at the coal face in the dark with their finger nails.  You must admit you come across as an entitled individual who has links to the industry propagandists.  

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3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Depends if it is used as a Term of Endearment or not.  Where was it posted?  

I will point out though that your rose tinted honey glazed posts of positividdy do touch the anger nerves of people who have real skin in the game and are chipping coal at the coal face in the dark with their finger nails.  You must admit you come across as an entitled individual who has links to the industry propagandists.  

You a funny man Chief ....just giving my opinion on my experiences ,always been a battler .....and a little skin in the game, real skin too, Southern skin too ...and bat for both sides too ! Your harness section has very few contributors ,especially of the ilk that actually go to the races !

Mainly great experiences ......pessimism is for liteweights !

How much skin do you have to have in the game before you qualified to comment on here ?

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14 minutes ago, TAB For Ever said:

You a funny man Chief ....just giving my opinion on my experiences ,always been a battler .....and a little skin in the game, real skin too, Southern skin too ...and bat for both sides too ! Your harness section has very few contributors ,especially of the ilk that actually go to the races !

Mainly great experiences ......pessimism is for liteweights !

How much skin do you have to have in the game before you qualified to comment on here ?

TAB, has it occurred to you that the TAB with their betting restrictions on punters has been part of the reason that many people now do not go on track as much now?

Talk to your hierarchy and get them to drop the restrictions on punters and you will realise that their turnover will increase dramatically.

At the same time get them to amend the $1k AML limit which they have applied illigally if they actually read the law!

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