south island apprentice jockeys

[the galah]

i've been watching the south island gallops and i wonder whether sometimes the apprentice jockeys are just riding to instructions and that trainers are telling whatever you do, don't do this or that.

either that or some are as bad as i have ever seen.

race 1 at invercargill,friendofthedevil .i guess the apprentice was under instructions to not move until they turned for home. it went from the perfect 1/1 position and travelling great with 600m to gor,then  waited till halfway down the straight,some 10 lengths from the leader and finally being asked to go.

soemthing seems wrong when they get ridden so bad. I just not sure the reason for it?

Edited May 11 by the galah

[mikeynz]

31 minutes ago, the galah said:

i've been watching the south island gallops and i wonder whether sometimes the apprentice jockeys are just riding to instructions and that trainers are telling whatever you do, don't do this or that.

either that or some are as bad as i have ever seen.

race 1 at invercargill,friendofthedevil .i guess the apprentice was under instructions to not move until they turned for home. it went from the perfect 1/1 position and travelling great with 600m to gor,then  waited till halfway down the straight,some 10 lengths from the leader and finally being asked to go.

soemthing seems wrong when they get ridden so bad. I just not sure the reason for it?

Maybe the trainers could ride them instead.

 

[curious]

1 hour ago, mikeynz said:

Maybe the trainers could ride them instead.

 

Not enough room in the sauna for many of them and quite a few already get a pension and wouldn't need the extra money.

[the galah]

I remmeber the days when the likes of lisa allpress would ride at invercargill and would start improving with 800m to go then really push them along from the 600m .She and one or two other north island jockeys used to win a lot of races that way.

for them it all was about forward momentum.

but you look at most of those races today,not one jockey is doing that. most of them just sit there,then with about 400m to go ask their horses to go but the track seems too wet to accelerate much and they miss the boat unless they are in the first 2 or 3.

i miss having those north island jockeys riding down there as at least you knew if you backed one that lost, it lost because it wasn't good enough.

those were the days.

[Chief Stipe]

 

[Chief Stipe]

Didn't look to be going good enough when it needed to improve.  

[Freda]

Didn't think so either. 

If you look he would have been 4-5 wide if he had elected to improve, he's young and inexperienced,  may have been scared to do that.

You can do that at Invercargill along Finlay Rd but likely no one has told him.

[SLB2.0]

The young rider who just rode Bella Mio - who is teaching her?

Stays on the inside, which is not where you want to be, and barely hits the horse.

I get that she's a 4kg claimer, but she's on the favourite, and punters keep doing their dough on these poor SI apprentices. But.... you know what you're going to get at least.

[SLB2.0]

And then she goes and wins

[curious]

Geez give her a break. Te Akau are mentoring her. She's had 44 raceday rides and a <10% strike rate this season. Tidy and promising rider for mine and a lovely and respectful young woman to boot.

Edited 8 hours ago by curious

[SLB2.0]

Never questioned her personality.

Her ride in the following race was much better, and punters who took the shorts for Bello Mio are probably wondering why she didn't give her every chance to win. That's the sole purpose of a jockey right? We don't ask for much else.

[curious]

22 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said:

Never questioned her personality.

Her ride in the following race was much better, and punters who took the shorts for Bello Mio are probably wondering why she didn't give her every chance to win. That's the sole purpose of a jockey right? We don't ask for much else.

I take it you backed it?

 

[SLB2.0]

15 minutes ago, curious said:

I take it you backed it?

 

That's irrelevant.... if jockeys don't give their mount every chance to win, they're subject to questioning.

[curious]

Did you consider the horse might not have been good enough? What did you have it priced at? I had it at $12 and unbackable by a long shot.

[Chief Stipe]

Basically if you draw 1 on a rated heavy 10 track you have zero options if the inside is a heavy 12.