mikeynz Posted June 30 Posted June 30 Some big noms in some races yet starting limit for some is 10, why's that ? Quote
Huey Posted June 30 Posted June 30 59 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Some big noms in some races yet starting limit for some is 10, why's that ? Gender neutral race day. Policy dictates Gender Neutral races can only have 10 starters. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted June 30 Posted June 30 1 hour ago, mikeynz said: Some big noms in some races yet starting limit for some is 10, why's that ? Rail out 5m? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted June 30 Posted June 30 I guess that's what you get if you thrash the track to help Riccarton out. Quote
Doomed Posted June 30 Posted June 30 5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I guess that's what you get if you thrash the track to help Riccarton out. The theory seems to be that in our brave new world SI racing can basically survive through the winter months with the AWT and Ashburton, with the Riccarton turf popping up every now and again if really necessary. Obviously the trainers weren't consulted about this theory. If they were consulted it would be interesting to hear what they think of the idea now. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted June 30 Posted June 30 50 minutes ago, Doomed said: The theory seems to be that in our brave new world SI racing can basically survive through the winter months with the AWT and Ashburton, with the Riccarton turf popping up every now and again if really necessary. Obviously the trainers weren't consulted about this theory. If they were consulted it would be interesting to hear what they think of the idea now. Ellerslie are doing the same with Pukekohe when Ellerslie has the "best all weather synthetic track" in the country. Quote
Doomed Posted June 30 Posted June 30 35 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Ellerslie are doing the same with Pukekohe when Ellerslie has the "best all weather synthetic track" in the country. The irony of Ellerslie having the winter off while Wingatui keeps going. I bet some old-timers wouldn't believe you if they were told that is the way we do it these days. Climate change must be about to take effect. 1 Quote
Murray Fish Posted June 30 Posted June 30 7 hours ago, Doomed said: SI racing can basically survive through the winter months Over the last two days we visited 2 SI tracks! I don't know what the clegg or track rating was, gave it the shoe test! That was after walking a few k's all over said course! Quote
mikeynz Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 Imagine how frustrating it must be for Southern trainers having to travel and then turning around and going home without even racing, spend all that time and cost for nought. 2 Quote
Shad Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 hours ago, mikeynz said: Imagine how frustrating it must be for Southern trainers having to travel and then turning around and going home without even racing, spend all that time and cost for nought. Yes nobody wins,major losses for owners an trainers, I also presume jockeys missed out on unpaid rides, heard it was cold down their, track looked ok, Quote
Chief Stipe Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 hours ago, mikeynz said: Imagine how frustrating it must be for Southern trainers having to travel and then turning around and going home without even racing, spend all that time and cost for nought. Why just single out "Southern Trainers"? Been any number of abandonments at BIG meetings in the North Island this season. Hawkes Bay and Te Rapa come to mind. For reasons not directly related to weather either! 1 Quote
Doomed Posted July 3 Posted July 3 17 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why just single out "Southern Trainers"? Been any number of abandonments at BIG meetings in the North Island this season. Hawkes Bay and Te Rapa come to mind. For reasons not directly related to weather either! Not many of them have travelled all the way from Southland to Canty in the middle of winter. And northern trainers know there will be another race-meeting along in a few days and generally NZTR will put on extra races for them. No such luck in the South. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted July 3 Posted July 3 17 minutes ago, Doomed said: Not many of them have travelled all the way from Southland to Canty in the middle of winter. And northern trainers know there will be another race-meeting along in a few days and generally NZTR will put on extra races for them. No such luck in the South. I'm over this whining. Why isn't everyone on the phone telling NZTR what they want? Besides the weather being absolute shyte (worse to come which is normal) can't all these trainers speak to each other and TELL NZTR what they want? Of that doesn’t happen then post all the correspondence online and have a real gripe. Personally I'm really really over Trainers and Owners that don't organise themselves and nail the decision makers. Reminds me of a body corporate - the all have the same problem but can't agree on how to fix it! 1 Quote
Special Agent Posted July 3 Posted July 3 19 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I'm over this whining. Why isn't everyone on the phone telling NZTR what they want? How do you know they aren't? Do they answer the phone? Quote
Special Agent Posted July 3 Posted July 3 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I'm over this whining. Why isn't everyone on the phone telling NZTR what they want? As a matter of interest, which department, and with whom would you personally start? 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted July 3 Posted July 3 You can’t plan the weather, is what it is. But it was wet before first race, forecast was for rain all day, so any dumb arse would know it would get worse, so cancel meeting early on…. then it won’t piss off so many involved Quote
Chief Stipe Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, Special Agent said: As a matter of interest, which department, and with whom would you personally start? Actually starting would be the first action! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted July 3 Posted July 3 FFS they actually got through 7 races before the abandonment. @Newmarket would have cancelled the day before with his prescient knowledge of what was going to happen...after race 7. Report 2025-07-03 Ashburton.pdf Quote
mikeynz Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago Judging by noms for Oamaru, a few will be staying at home. Quote
curious Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Probably close to half of them and no indication of any races being split. SI racing and programming is a disaster of major proportions. Quote
Special Agent Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, curious said: SI racing and programming is a disaster of major proportions. Just an idea but, could a word with Bruce Sherwin shed any light on a possible South Island solution? Bruce is easy to talk to and is open to trying a few concepts out. Quote
TAB For Ever Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, curious said: Probably close to half of them and no indication of any races being split. SI racing and programming is a disaster of major proportions. Certainly an excess of horses in the Maiden and R65 grades , but otherwise predictable with the higher than average stakes. But it doesn't stop the horses being imported from the North Island. I did a very quick check of those nominated in the R65 and 12 of first 15 i checked had started racing in North plus the odd Aussie and Hong Kong visitor. And the number of meetings and stakes allocated based on historical results so going to be difficult to reverse. Back in the day racing Winter racing in the South was rather limited ,both codes. Obviously clubs and trainers never tried to change this , the weather never helped ,hence it is what it is. Those with jumpers, a poor betting proposition kept horses going , Rex Cochrane[Gore] based his horses at Waimate and the better winter trainers eg Bill Hillis travelled north ! Wingatui had 2 days at Queens Birthday then nothing till Otago Hunt in August ,and all Harness closed up even more ! Quote
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