Michael House ……mmmm

[Newmarket]

Whats with this guy and his stable…. every now and then his horses perform above expectations all on the same day….

Up until today his strike rate in the last few months has been poor, then the same horses all are competitive today🤣🤣🤣🤣 And you cant say its poor fields, he races his donkeys in the same low class races each week. 
 

Hope the stipes ask the questions….

[Gammalite]

13 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Whats with this guy and his stable…. every now and then his horses perform above expectations all on the same day….

Up until today his strike rate in the last few months has been poor, then the same horses all are competitive today🤣🤣🤣🤣 And you cant say its poor fields, he races his donkeys in the same low class races each week. 
 

Hope the stipes ask the questions….

hahaha. yeah a great day for the stable winning 4 of the first 5 races 👍🍻  at Addington (with a Quinella ) and 4th in the other race . 

In The last 3 races of the day , there is just one HOUSE runner. Old 11 year old  WARLOCH . coming up soon R7. 

Com'on NewMarket !! you know you want to bet on it ?. he's won 3 of his 91 Addington starts and warmed up nicely .

Get the $100 on at 14-1  ?. the stable is flying . Warlock might turn back the years lol. 🤣.

The Brodster might  be trying to get 1000 on somewhere, so watch for an odds plummet 😁💰

[Rangatira]

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

Whats with this guy and his stable…. every now and then his horses perform above expectations all on the same day….

probably just as simple as putting them on the truck in reverse alphabetical order

days like this betting on red could get one restricted

[Brodie]

43 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

hahaha. yeah a great day for the stable winning 4 of the first 5 races 👍🍻  at Addington (with a Quinella ) and 4th in the other race . 

In The last 3 races of the day , there is just one HOUSE runner. Old 11 year old  WARLOCH . coming up soon R7. 

Com'on NewMarket !! you know you want to bet on it ?. he's won 3 of his 91 Addington starts and warmed up nicely .

Get the $100 on at 14-1  ?. the stable is flying . Warlock might turn back the years lol. 🤣.

The Brodster might  be trying to get 1000 on somewhere, so watch for an odds plummet 😁💰

Be alright if they would let the punters on early!

Waste of time bringing odds out early for the mid week Addington meetings if they dont wont let you to wager!!

[Nowornever]

Dover Terrace 27 starts for two placings and $15.00 into $2.40.  

Fastest last half at Addington in six runs has been 59.80. Can they improve it at least two seconds over the last 800. 

A normal Addington run is 3-4bk inr,detached tn,weakened. Add in Bronson Munroe has a driver UDR of .1350 so not great.

It will be interesting but a few things against.

[Rangatira]

7 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Be alright if they would let the punters on early!

Waste of time bringing odds out early for the mid week Addington meetings if they dont wont let you to wager!!

you on Dover Tce $15

[Nowornever]

I would be prepared to back against just with Bronson driving. Would have to lead to be any chance and it has not shown any gate speed in previous runs at Addington. Might be another Steel Jaw the way the money is going on.

[Nowornever]

Still can't pull it up

[Newmarket]

Yeah, one reason to stay away from these low class meetings….

[Nowornever]

57.4 and 27.8 with plenty in the tank.

Pretty sure I just saw him on his way home.

Edited 22 hours ago by Nowornever

[Brodie]

57 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Yeah, one reason to stay away from these low class meetings….

These low class race meetings are the way to go rather than Friday nights, in my humble opinion.

Thing is that the TAB are not letting punters on for much.

It takes very little money for the Bookies to slash odds dramatically.

One bet and they show the Fixed Odds fluctuations various times to make it look like there are many punters offloading, when that is not correct!

 

[Rangatira]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

These low class race meetings are the way to go rather than Friday nights, in my humble opinion.

Thing is that the TAB are not letting punters on for much.

It takes very little money for the Bookies to slash odds dramatically.

One bet and they show the Fixed Odds fluctuations various times to make it look like there are many punters offloading, when that is not correct!

 

3k at $3 was the stated big bet

[Newmarket]

9 hours ago, Brodie said:

These low class race meetings are the way to go rather than Friday nights, in my humble opinion.

Thing is that the TAB are not letting punters on for much.

It takes very little money for the Bookies to slash odds dramatically.

One bet and they show the Fixed Odds fluctuations various times to make it look like there are many punters offloading, when that is not correct!

 

Each to their own…. i would rather bet on the big nights when the stake money is good, at least you know all are trying, and reading form is easier. 

[the galah]

16 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Whats with this guy and his stable…. every now and then his horses perform above expectations all on the same day….

Up until today his strike rate in the last few months has been poor, then the same horses all are competitive today🤣🤣🤣🤣 And you cant say its poor fields, he races his donkeys in the same low class races each week. 
 

Hope the stipes ask the questions….

personally i think the michael house horses are relatively consistent,but some can have their good days and bad,just like other trainers. Don't see anything unusual ever happens with that stable.

like yesterday,santanna mach had been running below par for its last few starts,but he was well paced in not a very strong field yesterday and seemed to improve enough on recent runs to win again.I didn't pick him to win,based on the recent racing but wasn't over surprsed he won based on what hes capable of.Beudiene quick step from the same stable is another that can be like that.

Actually yesterdayn i had thought w house first 2 drives would win,delightful dreams and ask me lazarus,but both ran well below their last start runs.Still they will probably bounce back again quickly.I think w house choses what he thinks is the best drive each time,just sometimes it doesn't quite turn out that way.

14 hours ago, Nowornever said:

Dover Terrace 27 starts for two placings and $15.00 into $2.40.  

Fastest last half at Addington in six runs has been 59.80. Can they improve it at least two seconds over the last 800. 

A normal Addington run is 3-4bk inr,detached tn,weakened. Add in Bronson Munroe has a driver UDR of .1350 so not great.

It will be interesting but a few things against.

b munro doesn't drive too many,but him driving never puts me off.

He doesn't drive much and that win yesteday took his udr back up to .2278 for this year. last year it was .3232 and the year before he only had 1 drive and it ran 2nd. I have no idea of who he works for but always got the impression he had something to do with that b mcintyres horses down south and hes had some nice handy horses.

he of course got a bit of publicity one time for being a bit insensitive with his language on the rugby field. That was a strange story that seemed to be blown out of proportion . At the time it seemed a sign of the times and i found it sort of funny when you looked at the context of him having been a canterbury rugby maori representative. But hey,maybe thats just my sense of humour.

anyway,i has a small bet on it ,just based on  how healthy and relaxed it was pre race,knowing it had shown the odd glimpse of speed in the past and that i had never noted it looking so good in the past.Of course its always easy to say that after the race,but thats what it appeared like pre race..I saw nothing of concern about the way it won. It wasn't a win based on endless stamina,it simply just had too much speed for the horses it ran against last night.

Edited 8 hours ago by the galah

[Gammalite]

16 hours ago, Rangatira said:

you on Dover Tce $15

First thing I thought was the Brodster must have managed to get on somehow when it came 15-1  into 3-1. 🤣

A 27 start maiden I think it was.  someone got a few bucks anyway 💰. keep them in the game a bit longer lol.

Dover Terrace won the last with a leg in the air too , having a look at the replay . could of lapped em' if went further 😉. Brodster knows his stuff 😆

[Nowornever]

I can run the 100m in about 12.5 seconds.  If I spend a bit of time out at Bronsons place I might be able to break 10secs in a month. 

[the galah]

 

1 hour ago, Nowornever said:

I can run the 100m in about 12.5 seconds.  If I spend a bit of time out at Bronsons place I might be able to break 10secs in a month. 

i just had a look at the unhinged interview and it seems the owner trainer had been in hospital for about 4 weeks and munro had the horse in that time.Munro mentioned dover terrace had worked well ,at, sounds like dalgetys recently and was expected to race well.I thought it great to see that trainer get a win.I wish there was more people like him still in the game,but unfortunately there aren't anymore.

Anyway,from memory i think it was a horse that at times could look a little hairy and sweaty pre race but last night it looked spot on and a lot of work would have gone into getting it like that,with munro just topping it off with a different environment. and company work.

We've all got our own theories and one of the ones i have isthe likes of  beach work will improve almost any horse,as long as it settles in,but that only last for a couple of weeks and then there is no improvement and if they are worked on the beach a bit hard they actually go off pretty quick. We've  had about 3 horses trained like that and the same pattern emerged for each one.i'm not saying that applied in this case.

I also have a theory that horses worked around the grass verges of the roads and jogged 45 minutes will end up much ,much fitter than one jogged around a track for 30-40 minutes.i'm absolutely sure of that from trying that but the only thing is a farmer with a tractor trailer full of big hay bales flapping,tailgating you for no apparent reason ,can cause your horse an injury. I've often wondered whether that was part of p nairns winning formula when he was going good,although i have no idea how he works them. That was just a guess.

anyway the point is there can be quite a difference in performance within 2-4 weeks sometimes.

personally i think that racing in nz is pretty good as far as everything currently being above board.the riu did a good good in recent years,not so sure about the last year or so,they need to do more out of competition testing but i'm guessing maybe a couple of  administrators probably wouldn't want that .Theres only a couple of stables that i would guess the vet helps significantly enough to notice. I think the cullen stable is by far the best current example of that,but i'm only guessing.Not saying its anything that other couldn't get if they used the same vet,although i have noticed over the years that tyhe odd,now retired vet certainkly had his favorites when it came to things like that. Anyway ,i had better not go down that rabbit hole or chief will get all fired up.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by the galah

[Brodie]

16 hours ago, Rangatira said:

3k at $3 was the stated big bet

So they let someone on to net $6k and yet others are allowed to net buggerall ?

Does show clearly how the TAB treats punters not equally!

The horse opened at $15 so it wasnt that bet that shortened it.

Edited 3 hours ago by Brodie

[Brodie]

3 hours ago, Gammalite said:

First thing I thought was the Brodster must have managed to get on somehow when it came 15-1  into 3-1. 🤣

A 27 start maiden I think it was.  someone got a few bucks anyway 💰. keep them in the game a bit longer lol.

Dover Terrace won the last with a leg in the air too , having a look at the replay . could of lapped em' if went further 😉. Brodster knows his stuff 😆

Na wasnt Brodie, couldnt have it on disclosed form

Pure and simple change of stable is what made the difference.

There are heaps of horses that would grow a leg in another stable

Edited 3 hours ago by Brodie

[mikeynz]

8 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Na wasnt Brodie, couldnt have it on disclosed form

Pure and simple change of stable is what made the difference.

There are heaps of horses that would grow a leg in another stable

I think if any horse grew another leg in some stables there would be some serious questions asked lol.

[Rangatira]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Does show clearly how the TAB treats punters not equally!

And nor should they.

Long as they treat them accordingly.

[Rangatira]

20 hours ago, Nowornever said:

57.4 and 27.8 with plenty in the tank.

Pretty sure I just saw him on his way home.

Looks like Ernie off to pick up the Milk Cart

[Shad]

9 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

Looks like Ernie off to pick up the Milk Cart

They wont forget ole Ernie, classic,

[Shad]

Wonder if Micheal trains any gallopers these days, remember he won a race with Moremaire, couple years back at Reefton, former Pike trained runner, has had a few winners on the thoroughbred code.