Freda Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Different horse, you plonker. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Knew that! Producer didn't have the TT..but PAULY was supposedly giving T the TT... ...and this T..read Thoroughbred...had a TT when it wasn't supposed to savvy? ...or savvy yong blonk..on the plonk? Edited March 6, 2019 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 You're a bit late to the plonk Tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Given the all clear in todays stipes report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Canterbury Racing, Thursday 14 February 2019 RACE 4: CANTERBURY EQUINE CLINIC MAIDEN "Apprentice jockey Ms T Jonker and licensed stablehand Mr P Harris were interviewed regarding a video clip posted online taken from Trackside TV footage, as the horse PRODUCER which was being ridden by Ms Jonker and led by Mr Harris was parading in the birdcage and about to enter the racetrack. Mr Harris stated he was of the understanding that PRODUCER was to be wearing a tongue tie but after looking in the horse’s mouth felt it had become misplaced, at which point he reached into his pocket and handed a replacement tongue tie to Ms Jonker. Ms Jonker was then observed to hand the tongue tie back to Mr Harris prior to entering the racetrack. Mr Harris’s explanation was noted and he was reprimanded, being advised that in future any gear issues should be brought to the attention of the Stewards which can then be addressed and rectified if necessary either prior to the horse parading or behind the barriers." Great...so Jonker knew more than the stable boy...and trainer alongside That it wasn't down to wear a TT...either this start or the previous.. Plain weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Who has a spare tongue tie in their pocket? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Too true! Obviously this stable gets easily confused.... ...and it's a very bad virus by the looks... ..Not only NZTR caught it...but the RIU...who couldn't work out if yesterday's winner should be TT'd or free... ....the Stipe checker mustn't have received the email that it was TT on yesterday... talk about a circus maximus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 from a quick reading of the Stipes Report, my eyebrows are raised as a result of a SUSPICIOUS MIND. ( As an aside, did you notice the dogs race result being displayed on screen with the PRODUCER video clip shows the winner is SUSPICIOUS MINDS. But I digress....) If the stable hand thought the TT was misplaced, why did he not attempt to fix it in the birdcage, ie on the spot? Handing over a 'replacement tongue tie' does indeed sound rather bizarre...does he carry other replacement parts in his pocket? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priceless Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 What a load of poppycock!Way too cunning for the feds and always has been.Amazing that the feds didn't know it had happened until the video went up on here.One of the requirements for the job is to have your eyes closed 90% of the time and certainly don;t make anyone accountable.Just give them a slap on the hand with a wet bus ticket. Does this mean that this is acceptable by all other trainers/stablehands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priceless Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Most trainers I know attach the tongue tie to the bit or the side of the bridle for the horse concerned.Certainly not in your bloody pocket !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, priceless said: What a load of poppycock!Way too cunning for the feds and always has been.Amazing that the feds didn't know it had happened until the video went up on here.One of the requirements for the job is to have your eyes closed 90% of the time and certainly don;t make anyone accountable.Just give them a slap on the hand with a wet bus ticket. Does this mean that this is acceptable by all other trainers/stablehands. To be fear they can't be expected to keep an eye on every horse throughout the parade... ...most certainly should have received a fine though... The thing that beggars belief.... are stables arriving at the races without knowing what gear their horses are to wear...wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 hours ago, priceless said: Most trainers I know attach the tongue tie to the bit or the side of the bridle for the horse concerned.Certainly not in your bloody pocket !! I am amazed he ever had anything in his pocket But seriously how could anyone believe the story -if a TT is required you put it on the horse, not hand it to the jockey to admire. That won't wash, time for a credible excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 It has washed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Freda said: It has washed..... unvelievably yes it has ...and for no good reason ....if Mr Harris had arrived 'not knowing what gear was to go on the horse' as Thomass suggests, why was he carrying a spare TT in his pocket? Has it been verified that the equipment was a TT (ie has Ms Jonker's statement been independently corroborated)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) What makes you think Ms Jonker wouldn't just say what she was told? She is the stable rider after all. It can't be 'proven' that the object was 'dodgy' - in other words, anything but a tongue tie. It may well have been. But it didn't look good, many comments have been received from over the ditch wanting to know wtf was going on, and one of the protagonists has form as long as your arm. Edited March 7, 2019 by Freda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Wot ? just one arm ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Fred said: Wot ? just one arm ? More like a leg or three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 19 hours ago, Freda said: What makes you think Ms Jonker wouldn't just say what she was told? She is the stable rider after all. It can't be 'proven' that the object was 'dodgy' - in other words, anything but a tongue tie. It may well have been. But it didn't look good, many comments have been received from over the ditch wanting to know wtf was going on, and one of the protagonists has form as long as your arm. Given that then... The Feds will be all over this...perhaps lightening early morning raids...a thorough search of the boudoir...in a search for altered TT's and maybe even other shocking items? ...and then a thorough nvestigation of Grassi's claim that the Betfear betting thing on this race was.... highly "unusual" Surely all of the EMAILS sent to the Feds on this matter...would have mentioned the BETTING? So it's a little perturbing the Stipes report didn't cover that aspect.... Maybe they forgot to put it in the report?? Like they forgot to report the winners TT on Wednesday...different from Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Shirley some of yous must have got your replys by now?? Of course you would have included the fact Pauly was as confused as hell about the TT being off the previous start and this one...even though hes trying to slip Tanya one... ...and then you would have mentioned the highly "unusual" betting on this neddy on Betfear...correct? any replys then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) On 6/03/2019 at 9:27 PM, Thomass said: Canterbury Racing, Thursday 14 February 2019 RACE 4: CANTERBURY EQUINE CLINIC MAIDEN "........ Mr Harris’s explanation was noted and he was reprimanded, being advised that in future any gear issues should be brought to the attention of the Stewards which can then be addressed and rectified if necessary either prior to the horse parading or behind the barriers." Gear is NOT allowed to be added around at the barrier. We used to tie tongue ties to the bridle for barrier staff to add - it is not a comfortable piece of attire, and most trainers liked the option of leaving it as late as possible to put on. Now, all gear has to be put on in the saddling area to be checked off by the steward. The explanation above is a crock. Further to that, a sometime barrier attendant said to me this morning that they had all had a directive to not touch or interfere with any gear - with the exception of assisting with a slipped saddle, for example, or replacing a bridle that has broken. Recently a horse appeared at the gates with it's tongue tie chewed and slipping off- and all the staff were allowed to do was take it off. So it appears the feds don't even know their own rules.....but they can change them at will, of course. At the last Riccarton meeting, a runner which customarily is loaded last, was refused permission to do so. Why? asked the bemused trainer...because he's eight years old, was the reply. Edited March 10, 2019 by Freda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priceless Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 So what are you saying Freda ??Does this set a precedent for all trainers in future .Can they have gear put on at the start ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Well....reading between the lines...it would seem so...if it suits whoever is making the rules on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Seems much easier for the stewards to let it go, rather than investigate. Sloppy and lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priceless Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 SLB2.O. I agree.Pathetic really !! They certainly didn't look very far and this is why people like this get away with all this shit !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Dont you people ask for to much at one time, they will still be doing their re induction into the correct barriers, hokitika style. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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