Guest CrossCodes Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 So Riverton fields on the ‘new’ crapsite for today and Monday have been reduced to the horses name and number and that’s it? No form, no riders, no trainers, no nothing......what a disgrace and an embarrassment the site has become, but nothing that hasn’t been said before I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I've got to the point where I have no confidence in looking at the from they provide anyway. When the new site went live it was so inaccurate for so long. What I don't understand is how can an organization like AAP Mega form get it right and the NZRB can't?! Surely they source the same data? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 www.tab.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Turny said: www.tab.com.au Isnt this all a bit basic. Why have they got it so wrong? Actually I know why they didn't have any subject matter experts on the job I.e. Joe punter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Has to be a deliberate ploy - as not even those from the cuckoo's nest could get it so wrong for so long! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitman Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Hi guys I'm supposed to be flying to HK this arvo but my flight has been delayed. I had a look at the TAB sight it's a disgrace no wonder our turnovers are dropping third world stuff. So this is what happened I rang the tab waited 14 minutes and got a "team leader" told him who I was - he had never heard of me - don't want people taking this wrong but really- this is what is wrong a team leader. Do that not have to have some knowledge I thought stuff this so I rang John Allen and to his credit he answered me He to was surprised and disappointed that a "team leader" had so little knowledge He did explain they are aware of the issues and have people working on it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Sounds like John Allen is so full of shit.They have been working on it since day one. What a excuse for a TAB. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Pitman said: Hi guys I'm supposed to be flying to HK this arvo but my flight has been delayed. I had a look at the TAB sight it's a disgrace no wonder our turnovers are dropping third world stuff. So this is what happened I rang the tab waited 14 minutes and got a "team leader" told him who I was - he had never heard of me - don't want people taking this wrong but really- this is what is wrong a team leader. Do that not have to have some knowledge I thought stuff this so I rang John Allen and to his credit he answered me He to was surprised and disappointed that a "team leader" had so little knowledge He did explain they are aware of the issues and have people working on it Yeah right. You are lucky you got someone to answer the phone though - albeit a 'team leader' ....I haven't been very fortunate in that respect. Good luck in H.K...make the most of things and have a great time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Pitman said: Hi guys I'm supposed to be flying to HK this arvo but my flight has been delayed. I had a look at the TAB sight it's a disgrace no wonder our turnovers are dropping third world stuff. So this is what happened I rang the tab waited 14 minutes and got a "team leader" told him who I was - he had never heard of me - don't want people taking this wrong but really- this is what is wrong a team leader. Do that not have to have some knowledge I thought stuff this so I rang John Allen and to his credit he answered me He to was surprised and disappointed that a "team leader" had so little knowledge He did explain they are aware of the issues and have people working on it He should fecking talk , why be surprised and disappointed at a " team leaders " lack of knowledge when as the NZRB leader his knowledge of NZ racing would as sparse as water in the Sahara . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Well they have been ‘working on it’ a while, races almost over now and is still showing nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 John Allen is (or should be) a goneburger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 20/04/2019 at 2:29 PM, Pitman said: Hi guys I'm supposed to be flying to HK this arvo but my flight has been delayed. I had a look at the TAB sight it's a disgrace no wonder our turnovers are dropping third world stuff. So this is what happened I rang the tab waited 14 minutes and got a "team leader" told him who I was - he had never heard of me - don't want people taking this wrong but really- this is what is wrong a team leader. Do that not have to have some knowledge I thought stuff this so I rang John Allen and to his credit he answered me He to was surprised and disappointed that a "team leader" had so little knowledge He did explain they are aware of the issues and have people working on it obviously they don't work over Easter as Riverton Monday is exactly the same still at 5.05pm Sunday! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, von Smallhaussen said: obviously they don't work over Easter as Riverton Monday is exactly the same still at 5.05pm Sunday! As a person who works in IT and writes code this is an interesting problem. I suspect the base code has been written by contractors so it won’t be looked at or even fixed until Tuesday. As the functionality for displaying details for each runner works for all other meetings except Riverton, this indicates values/parameters being passed to load the data are either invalid or unrecognizable. My best guess is when they loaded the core data for Riverton (date, course, meeting etc..), there is a bug (leading or trailing space for example) which the rest of the code can’t interpret. The way the code is compiled, it will load as much as it can and not crash the site. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Docker said: As a person who works in IT and writes code this is an interesting problem. I suspect the base code has been written by contractors so it won’t be looked at or even fixed until Tuesday. As the functionality for displaying details for each runner works for all other meetings except Riverton, this indicates values/parameters being passed to load the data are either invalid or unrecognizable. My best guess is when they loaded the core data for Riverton (date, course, meeting etc..), there is a bug (leading or trailing space for example) which the rest of the code can’t interpret. The way the code is compiled, it will load as much as it can and not crash the site. Just my opinion. Always keen to look at mysteries. I think the problem is having two Riverton meetings close together both Jetbet#6. Probably stems from non racing person fed Mondays fields over the top of Saturday fields. The NZTR man supplying the fields off on an early holiday. Hard to believe but it would appear the fields then needed to be inputed by hand. That still doesn't explain Monday also having no data. The extended form obviously under a different system so not affected. Playing around with queries and cut and paste should have fixed everything but maybe the system or training is such its not possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 One obviously doesn't get much for $42 - 50 million these days. ? Excuses just don't cut the mustard here. Mind you the silence is deafening coming from the Racing Board. Where are you John? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 58 minutes ago, The Centaur said: Always keen to look at mysteries. I think the problem is having two Riverton meetings close together both Jetbet#6. Probably stems from non racing person fed Mondays fields over the top of Saturday fields. The NZTR man supplying the fields off on an early holiday. Hard to believe but it would appear the fields then needed to be inputed by hand. That still doesn't explain Monday also having no data. The extended form obviously under a different system so not affected. Playing around with queries and cut and paste should have fixed everything but maybe the system or training is such its not possible. You make some good points. It did cross my mind that having 2 meetings close together at the same venue with the same meeting code with some runners nominated for both days may have caused this issue. SQL queries if not filtered correctly in the where clause that return 2 results when only one is expected can stop other code from executing. So it’s interesting to note Riverton is the first time it’s raced under the new platform and a meeting held at the same venue only a day apart is also being raced using this platform. Hopefully they tested these scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Docker said: Hopefully they tested these scenarios. That would be logical, so the odds are pretty short that they did not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Docker said: As a person who works in IT and writes code this is an interesting problem. I suspect the base code has been written by contractors so it won’t be looked at or even fixed until Tuesday. As the functionality for displaying details for each runner works for all other meetings except Riverton, this indicates values/parameters being passed to load the data are either invalid or unrecognizable. My best guess is when they loaded the core data for Riverton (date, course, meeting etc..), there is a bug (leading or trailing space for example) which the rest of the code can’t interpret. The way the code is compiled, it will load as much as it can and not crash the site. Just my opinion. Could be wrong but I think this has happened before at Riverton for some strange reason - a couple of months ago I think - certainly after the launch of the dog. Must be low on their priorities to fix. Maybe it's something simple like not having a long enough extension cord to reach way down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mark D said: Could be wrong but I think this has happened before at Riverton for some strange reason - a couple of months ago I think - certainly after the launch of the dog. Must be low on their priorities to fix. Maybe it's something simple like not having a long enough extension cord to reach way down south Hi MD - this is the first time Riverton have raced this year but I get what your saying. When the new site was launched, oversea racing fields had very little detail about each runner, quite similar to what we see now for Riverton. Maybe they are using an older API or the developer did not realise Riverton is in NZ, not a town in Utah. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Docker said: Hi MD - this is the first time Riverton have raced this year but I get what your saying. When the new site was launched, oversea racing fields had very little detail about each runner, quite similar to what we see now for Riverton. Maybe they are using an older API or the developer did not realise Riverton is in NZ, not a town in Utah. ? Must have been Invergiggle then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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