Happy Sunrise Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, Brodie said: Far too short distance and being so short if you are out the back the front ones aren’t going to be coming back to you!,, We shall see. 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: not a chance We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 9 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: We shall see. We shall see. Looked at the odds for tomorrow and is there anyone that can see anything worthwhile backing over a mile, as the odds do seem rather short! Sunday racing will always pull in punters that haven’t got much else to do but I really can not see why on earth Nelson has decided to run miles and some stands at that????? Nelson is a club that is struggling financially and is lucky to still be operating and running this meeting wouldn’t be helping their cause! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Looked at the odds for tomorrow and is there anyone that can see anything worthwhile backing over a mile, as the odds do seem rather short! But the question is whether the races are interesting or not. There is a lot going against them being so as there hotpots and small fields so let us see. 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Nelson is a club that is struggling financially and is lucky to still be operating and running this meeting wouldn’t be helping their cause! How are they in trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: But the question is whether the races are interesting or not. There is a lot going against them being so as there hotpots and small fields so let us see. How are they in trouble? Nelson Trotting Club have been financially short for many years. Clubs that run only 4 meetings a year are hardly going to be financially ok is this day and age. Not sure what happen ended but a few years ago they got picked up in an audit for GST irregularities where they had claimed GST when they should not have and got a bill for $140k to pay!!! If I remember right they were also the Club that hadn’t been paying their Local Body rates as well but may have been another club. Would not be surprised if the racing is not still going in a few years time and the track converted into residential housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brodie said: Would not be surprised if the racing is not still going in a few years time and the track converted into residential housing. Do you know who owns the land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Do you know who owns the land? I thought it was the A & P Society. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 First race predictable and no moves despite the fancy camera angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Race 3 had a couple of moves. Not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I thought it was quite a good day. Enough action to make it worthwhile. It works for 2 day meetings but I don't think it should be a common thing. Drawing the outside would make it a long trip for possibly little chance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 When a Sonic Reign can go 1.53 odd for a mile it shows how overrated black print is with 2.0 minute mile rates! Sonic Reign is a less than average horse but won in that time but wouldn’t have a dogs show of ever winning a race at Addington!!! Watched the racing and wasn’t that excited with it however it does allow poor horses to win due to the short distances. If Sonic Reign can go 1.53 imagine times over a mile that good horses could go? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Brodie said: When a Sonic Reign can go 1.53 odd for a mile it shows how overrated black print is with 2.0 minute mile rates! Sonic Reign is a less than average horse but won in that time but wouldn’t have a dogs show of ever winning a race at Addington!!! Watched the racing and wasn’t that excited with it however it does allow poor horses to win due to the short distances. If Sonic Reign can go 1.53 imagine times over a mile that good horses could go? it just puts racing over that shit distance on lightening fast tracks into perspective menangle for example 1.49 yawn just a borefest. ....you just have to watch trackside from 11am to see American mile racing running with $50 in the win pool ..certainly makes me feel sleepy, absolute boring drivel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Edited January 12, 2020 by Flagship uberalles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flagship uberalles said: it just puts racing over that shit distance on lightening fast tracks into perspective menangle for example 1.49 yawn just a borefest. ....you just have to watch trackside from 11am to see American mile racing running with $50 in the win pool ..certainly makes me feel sleepy, absolute boring drivel. 100% correct. NZ clubs need to abandon this mile racing now! American racing is terrible and always has been racing over a mile and if they continue to run miles they deserve what they get. Edited January 12, 2020 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Brodie said: shows how overrated black print is with 2.0 minute mile rates! As useful and relevant as a cassette tape recorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Brodie said: 100% correct. NZ clubs need to abandon this mile racing now! American racing is terrible and always has been racing over a mile and if they continue to run miles they deserve what they get. My good friend, harness racing is thriving in North America, unlike here, so they must be doing something right!! https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru010320.pdf Woodbine standardbred recorded largest all-sources handle ever in 2019 Record foreign wagering, which was up more than 15 per cent in 2019, drove total handle to just shy of $365 million. byMarkMcKelvie/ Woodbine communications Woodbine Entertainment announced today that the 2019 standardbred season produced a record all-sources handle of $364,639,490, the highest in Woodbine standardbred history. This was our first full year of harness racing at Woodbine Mohawk Park and it proved to be very successful, said Jim Lawson, CEO of Woodbine Entertainment. We look forward to building off our successes in 2019 as we fulfill our vision of being the top standardbred racetrack in the world. The 216-date season (five cancellations) saw the all-sources handle rise 9.2 per cent and a record per-race handle of $161,990, up 11.2 per cent from the previous year. A total of 2,251 races were contested, 41 fewer than the year prior. Foreign wagering (outside Canada) on Woodbine standardbred races in 2019 was as strong as ever with a record total of $243,095,740 wagered, up 15.2 per cent from 2018. Home Market Area wagering held steady by coming in at $88 million for the second consecutive year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Whiteman, America only know about mile racing that is all they know. There horses are bred for speed rather than stamina so that is what they race! Why I am not sure! Went to the Meadowlands a few years ago and racing was yes boring although was worth seeing as a bucket list item! Wagering may be increasing but imagine how much better it would be with distance racing? Look if our clubs want to program racing over a mile then that is their prerogative however if they think It works to retain punters and attract new ones, they are in cuckoo land! Edited January 13, 2020 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: My good friend, harness racing is thriving in North America, unlike here, so they must be doing something right!! https://harnessracingupdate.com/pdf/hru/hru010320.pdf Woodbine standardbred recorded largest all-sources handle ever in 2019 Record foreign wagering, which was up more than 15 per cent in 2019, drove total handle to just shy of $365 million. byMarkMcKelvie/ Woodbine communications Woodbine Entertainment announced today that the 2019 standardbred season produced a record all-sources handle of $364,639,490, the highest in Woodbine standardbred history. This was our first full year of harness racing at Woodbine Mohawk Park and it proved to be very successful, said Jim Lawson, CEO of Woodbine Entertainment. We look forward to building off our successes in 2019 as we fulfill our vision of being the top standardbred racetrack in the world. The 216-date season (five cancellations) saw the all-sources handle rise 9.2 per cent and a record per-race handle of $161,990, up 11.2 per cent from the previous year. A total of 2,251 races were contested, 41 fewer than the year prior. Foreign wagering (outside Canada) on Woodbine standardbred races in 2019 was as strong as ever with a record total of $243,095,740 wagered, up 15.2 per cent from 2018. Home Market Area wagering held steady by coming in at $88 million for the second consecutive year. so old man, would you like to see mile racing the norm in n.z? I think our longer distances is what sets our horses apart from Australia and north America. and likewise the European trotter is the best in the world because they race longer distances as well. I would hate for us to ever go down the menangle rout, how uninteresting mile after mile after mile, no problem a few major races like the old pan am mile etc, but whole meetings being hijaked by the distance regularly is a turn off. the times now tell me nothing with poor horse's running faster than old nz records, as Brodie says it just makes a mockery of the old 2 minute mark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Flagship uberalles said: so old man, would you like to see mile racing the norm in n.z? I think our longer distances is what sets our horses apart from Australia and north America. and likewise the European trotter is the best in the world because they race longer distances as well. I would hate for us to ever go down the menangle rout, how uninteresting mile after mile after mile, no problem a few major races like the old pan am mile etc, but whole meetings being hijaked by the distance regularly is a turn off. the times now tell me nothing with poor horse's running faster than old nz records, as Brodie says it just makes a mockery of the old 2 minute mark. No, but I am just pointing out to my good friend Brodie that harness is thriving in North America despite mostly mile racing there. He claims that mile racing is the death of harness racing but this is not the case there. I repeat they must be doing something right. Harness racing is certainly not doing something right here? The two minute mark is pointless these days and should be reduced to 1:55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: The two minute mark is pointless these days and should be reduced to 1:55. totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Tell that to a commercial breeder ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Anyone hear what their turnover was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: As useful and relevant as a cassette tape recorder. so pleased the rest home is old school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Rangatira said: so pleased the rest home is old school are you making reference to Mr sunrises mature new girlfriend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Flagship uberalles said: are you making reference to Mr sunrises mature new girlfriend? duo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: are you making reference to Mr sunrises mature new girlfriend? no just pleased i can play my replay radio 1981 trotting cassette at the rest home the brodster alleges i am in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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