All The Aces Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Catalyst NZ TAB $1.10 NEDS $1.75 3 Quote
aquaman Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Yes, i'm afraid the more the NZ TAB lose customers, the more they take out of the pools. This is their answer to declining turnover, just take more out of the pools. NZ is now at the stage where the takeout on quaddies is 26%, as compared to our cousins across the Tasman where its 22%. This is just one example. Quote
Fred Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Does not seem to affect Lotto where they deduct 55% Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, Fred said: Does not seem to affect Lotto where they deduct 55% But the price of the product stays the same. A betting pool that has 26% deducted from it pays less than the one that has 21% deducted. Quote
Thomass Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 13 hours ago, All The Aces said: Catalyst NZ TAB $1.10 NEDS $1.75 I'm betting the left that Thaddeus broke out in the cold sweats when he knew how much BGP had in the boot... Its like dressing the most desirable woman in the world.. ...in a sack...and cat pee cologned Ya just move on and 'invest' Fitty on something else...Probably Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Thomass said: I'm betting the left that Thaddeus broke out in the cold sweats when he knew how much BGP had in the boot... Its like dressing the most desirable woman in the world.. ...in a sack...and cat pee cologned Ya just move on and 'invest' Fitty on something else...Probably I thought you'd be all over it Thomaas....... 3yr old after Christmas, dropping back in class, blinkers off. Quote
Thomass Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I thought you'd be all over it Thomaas....... 3yr old after Christmas, dropping back in class, blinkers off. Ive been on a Whiskey bender for the last week and ain't caught up... SERIOUSLY? No BLINKERS?? And that WIDE beautiful CONFUSING HQ straight to get used to first time...without BLINKERS? F ME...If I was into LAYING... Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Trainer says he doesn't need them anymore. Only wore them because in his first race he wouldn't take a gap. Training perfectly without them. Trialled beautifully last week without them. A class animal doesn't need them. Quote
Thomass Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 It's very common to start off a campaign without Blinkers...if you're not that serious... ...Im betting the right...that as soon as he gets to Oz...they go back on... Hes lucky this week with the 2 drawn outside him are on pacers...and the one inside him is as well... He could get smashed in a pincer movement...although he's better out there than bottled up on the rails...without Blinkers So with cover probably...then hooked out..after spending nothing... ...to be greeted by the WIDE OPEN ex swamp...HQ straight...can't wait Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Geez you write some crap. The trainer said - "he no longer needs them"... He'll probably go faster without them. Quote
Thomass Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Will they go back ON... ..when he starts acting like a drunken sailor up HQ's straight... ...with the Boys Wearing Plaid...shouting out him? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 So you're an expert trainer now amongst everything else? I'm picking he will run kinder than he has. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Anyway back to the Topic. $1.10 is not good value. $1.75 would be. A couple of tidy fillies carrying 4kg's less but Catalyst should be far too good. Quote
Thomass Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Could do...the trial was good without them...even though the useless NZTR info...had them as ON... ...but it's about the pressure going on...and the lack of concentration that brings... ...especially in white hot Alligator country... Would he have flattened the outside horse in the G1 without them on... ...knowing Horses try to avoid contact? Edited January 22, 2020 by Thomass Quote
Murray Fish Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Fred said: Does not seem to affect Lotto where they deduct 55% others would be saying "easy to spot the idiots!" ps. proud to say I have never spent 1 cent on them... lol! happy to donate about fifty bucks a year to local school raffles.. amusingly, after 18 years, still to win one prize!!! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Geez All The Aces - looks like you hammered the Ozzie bookies! Quote
The Centaur Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 On 23/01/2020 at 9:04 AM, Fred said: Does not seem to affect Lotto where they deduct 55% Racing is worse than that. Most punters have less knowledge than bookies then multiplying their disadvantage over several reinvested races over the day the net takeout far exceeds 55%. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Centaur said: Racing is worse than that. Most punters have less knowledge than bookies then multiplying their disadvantage over several reinvested races over the day the net takeout far exceeds 55%. The average punter I talk to doesn't understand that takeouts reduce the winnings they receive. Quote
Murray Fish Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, The Centaur said: Racing is worse than that. Most punters have less knowledge than bookies then multiplying their disadvantage over several reinvested races over the day the net takeout far exceeds 55%. 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: The average punter I talk to doesn't understand that takeouts reduce the winnings they receive. lol! hence my rather aggressive talking down John Allan at a public meeting when he said there was a real need to educate the average/new punter about betting.!!! ? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, Freda said: Think he went faster, Chief. Did you see when he was let go - he put in this huge bound and jumped up three gears! Breaking 1:09 at Ellerslie isn't too bad either! Quote
Freda Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Did you see when he was let go - he put in this huge bound and jumped up three gears! Breaking 1:09 at Ellerslie isn't too bad either! Not at all.. and Troy reckoned plenty improvement still..! Quote
curious Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 Had a good blow I think he said. Have to say the NZTAB may have got this one right! Quote
Murray Fish Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 any idea who gets the ride over the ditch? Quote
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