Chief Stipe Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 What about the Ministry of Primary Industries (MPI)?! 3,000 Employees. $300m yearly salary bill! Yes that's an average of $100,000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: What about the Ministry of Primary Industries (MPI)?! 3,000 Employees. $300m yearly salary bill! Yes that's an average of $100,000! If they can justify these salaries of at least $2k per week then haven’t got a problem, however I would be pretty confident to say that most of them would be doing next to nothing to justify at least $100k! These big wigs are on the gravy train and because they are grossly overpaid, then they don’t mind that others are being paid too much. Then things get a bit hard and they want the taxpayer to help them out??? Earn your exorbitant salaries or piss off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, Brodie said: Just heard on TV1 news that RITA are going to be making 230 odd people redundant! Apart from salary cuts and spending savings it was not going to be enough to offset the drop in wagering. Will be very interesting to see what the jobs at RITA are that are being gotten rid of? Will the big wigs take a salary cut, of course not because they have got rid of 230 jobs that perhaps were t needed anyway! Read the other day that 25% of CHRISTCHURCH City Council workers were on in excess of $100k and the wages Bill was something like 40% of the expenses of the council, no wonder our rates have increased incredibly over the last few years. These companies that are paid by the taxpayer and ratepayers just don’t seem to have any qualms about ripping the people that pay their salaries off!!!! The Accountant or someone along that line at the CCC that came from England is on well in excess of $500k or $10k per week????? Fact check. In the 2019-20 CCC annual plan, personnel costs are $244,937 and total expenditure is $837,308, i.e., 29% not 40%. Dawn Baxendale's salary is $495,000, reduced to $446,000 for the next financial year. The CCC are unbelievably good at wasting money on adventure parks, cycleways and the like, but exaggerating in other areas just encourages it to ignore these real problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Basil said: Fact check. In the 2019-20 CCC annual plan, personnel costs are $244,937 and total expenditure is $837,308, i.e., 29% not 40%. Dawn Baxendale's salary is $495,000, reduced to $446,000 for the next financial year. The CCC are unbelievably good at wasting money on adventure parks, cycleways and the like, but exaggerating in other areas just encourages it to ignore these real problems. brodster, one of the better modern day inventors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Basil said: Fact check. In the 2019-20 CCC annual plan, personnel costs are $244,937 and total expenditure is $837,308, i.e., 29% not 40%. Dawn Baxendale's salary is $495,000, reduced to $446,000 for the next financial year. The CCC are unbelievably good at wasting money on adventure parks, cycleways and the like, but exaggerating in other areas just encourages it to ignore these real problems. Basil, fact check! what are you on about personnel expenses? Talking about salaries have gone up to about 40% of operating costs now, not personal expenses!!! Baxendale came over to Nz to be on a salary of $500k plus as far as I can remember anyway 495 k is pretty close to $500k if she didn’t start on over 500k plus we paid heaps for transfer expenses Edited May 6, 2020 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rangatira said: brodster, one of the better modern day inventors Ranga, go and take your pills and then lights out before the nurses come around! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Basil, think you need to do better research. Brodster on the money as usual. Article yesterday states that 25% of CCC employees on over $100k and wages Bill now 40% of operating expenses. Apology from you is accepted!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Brodie said: as far as I can remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Ffs, Ranga. What is your point? Purdon was not a dominant player with winners at Greymouth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Brodie said: Basil, think you need to do better research. Brodster on the money as usual. Article yesterday states that 25% of CCC employees on over $100k and wages Bill now 40% of operating expenses. Apology from you is accepted!! Here's some advice Brodie : real researchers get their information from primary sources, idiots rely on what they read in the newspaper (they also confuse 'personnel costs' with 'personal expenses' — lol!) So I've attached the primary source. Assuming it isn't beyond your ken, you'll see that Personnel costs (i.e., wages and salaries) planned for 2019-20 are $211.4 mill while total expenditure is $837 million, i.e., the former is about 25% of the latter (yesterday's 29% was a typo). If you go to the 2018-19 annual report (which you can do for yourself), you'll see the actual ratio for that year was almost identical. So much for 40%. Plonk. Brodie idiot info.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Basil said: Here's some advice Brodie : real researchers get their information from primary sources, idiots rely on what they read in the newspaper (they also confuse 'personnel costs' with 'personal expenses' — lol!) So I've attached the primary source. Assuming it isn't beyond your ken, you'll see that Personnel costs (i.e., wages and salaries) planned for 2019-20 are $211.4 mill while total expenditure is $837 million, i.e., the former is about 25% of the latter (yesterday's 29% was a typo). If you go to the 2018-19 annual report (which you can do for yourself), you'll see the actual ratio for that year was almost identical. So much for 40%. Plonk. Brodie idiot info.pdf 32 kB · 2 downloads Basil, firstly for some reason you originally mentioned personnel costs and you clearly were publishing wrong figures. Secondly no I don’t believe everything I read, but what I do know is that there will be that many people employed by the CCC on big money that add nothing to the CHRISTCHURCH scene. I can only quote what someone from the media has researched and what figure to believe is always hard to grasp as the figures quoted by the CCC are never accurate. cost overruns on everything and delays. Mega dollars blown on bloody cycle lanes at the expense of business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Brodie said: Basil, firstly for some reason you originally mentioned personnel costs and you clearly were publishing wrong figures. Secondly no I don’t believe everything I read, but what I do know is that there will be that many people employed by the CCC on big money that add nothing to the CHRISTCHURCH scene. I can only quote what someone from the media has researched and what figure to believe is always hard to grasp as the figures quoted by the CCC are never accurate. cost overruns on everything and delays. Mega dollars blown on bloody cycle lanes at the expense of business Afternoon grumpy take a happy pill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mehe said: Afternoon grumpy take a happy pill are you sure he wants to be happy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rangatira said: are you sure he wants to be happy ? No but he might be on the money if he is happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mehe said: Afternoon grumpy take a happy pill Why is he grumpy? His opinion is valid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mehe said: No but he might be on the money if he is happy needs to get in line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brodie Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Why is he grumpy? His opinion is valid. Chief, the thing that I have realised since we have been in Home Detention is that I realise that we had more woolly sheep in Nz than gumans but I didn’t realise that we also had so many two legged human sheep without the wool!!!! Too many people are prepared to just go with the flow and not question anything and I will not apologise for not being a socialist and being led by a control freak! Spoke to a bloke yesterday that made a delivery to us and he thought Ardern was great! I asked why he thought that and he said he had never had such a pay rise before as he was obviously talking about the minimum pay rate that was happening! Apart from that he was at a loss as to what of benefit this government had done for NZ and he did admit that the ones around her were not the best. We have supposedly a Mr Twyford who is the Minister for Economic Development who is going to be in charge of pulling NZ out of this mess that we are in financially, and yet we haven’t seen or heard from him as to what his plan was! Seems like our Prime Minister can do no wrong in the eyes of the flock of sheep that think she is great, so god we do need some serious help! If stating the truth and not being a sheep is being grumpy in some people’s eyes, I will take that any day over being one of the flock of sheep! Edited May 7, 2020 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I must say Brodie I've never been this angry with a Government before. I don't watch news on TV anymore and struggle to read the Stuff and NZ Herald websites without throwing something. To top it off the Government threw $50m at them. The BS is just constant and the journalism is very very poor. I try to get a rational educated view of the world by reading data based reports so I can decide for myself what the truth is. The latest data I've been researching is regarding a wider testing of the population beyond testing for active cases. That is data concerning antibody testing or testing for those that have HAD the virus. Today it was was reported on Worldometer that 8,000 Covid-19 tests were completed in NZ yesterday. A total of 168,00 to date. NOT ONE test was for antibodies. Every test was of those "displaying symptoms" or random supermarket queue testing. Yesterday I read a science paper that reported on the global testing for antibodies. Their modeling and conclusion was that 10% of the GLOBAL POPULATION have been infected. That's over 700 million people. When you then look at the fatality rate it isn't even close to the seasonal flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Very interesting that this government of NZ has had us all in lockdown ILLEGALLY! How can anyone now have any respect for them and Ardern should stand down immediately!!!! All that have been charged will have to have the charges dropped! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Brodie said: Very interesting that this government of NZ has had us all in lockdown ILLEGALLY! How can anyone now have any respect for them and Ardern should stand down immediately!!!! All that have been charged will have to have the charges dropped! Yes and the Police Commissioner needs to be given a rap over the knuckles too. Who allowed him to write an Opinion piece for Stuff where he justified the illegal creation of road blocks by Iwi and their gang clans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes and the Police Commissioner needs to be given a rap over the knuckles too. Who allowed him to write an Opinion piece for Stuff where he justified the illegal creation of road blocks by Iwi and their gang clans? Calm down a bit CS. As one to see things outside the box, like myself, it's obvious that he's padding his CV for when Godber's reign has finally come to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: To top it off the Government threw $50m at them. If the government allows the lolly scramble for money to continue for too long they will screw the country. They better start showing some fiscal moderation quickly. Imagine if RITA got shut out and was the only pauper in the country not to get a handout! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Yankiwi said: Calm down a bit CS. As one to see things outside the box, like myself, it's obvious that he's padding his CV for when Godber's reign has finally come to an end. LOL. ? That made me laugh out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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