wally Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 tommy what happened to her above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Well she probably got the croop from consuming far too much of 'da white' Wal... But I'm told she's doing the 'agistment' thing in Cambridge... One things for sure...once a 'serious racing offence' like hers was committed the Racing Industry needs to insert LIFE TIME BAN The thought that crooks David Cramp Walker and Dazza Jigger Weir may get another chance to participate in the Racing Industry is simply intolerable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: The thought that crooks David Cramp Walker Walker effectively got a life ban for stuff all. I suppose you think Moody should have got life as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Pulling horse's is not "stuff all" Get a grip... Australia's idea of letting trainers back to create mayhem such as torturing horses with jiggers while on a treadmill kind of ties in with their criminal DNA... We need to stop channeling that b/s Criminals like Walker should have life bans...end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Thomass said: Criminals like Walker should have life bans...end of He didn't commit a criminal act. As for Weir was it ever proven he used a jigger? You didn't answer my question regarding Moody. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 David was singled out, he was victimised, he can come to me on the Goldie and he has a job, I'll put him on Raceday too, his Dad was my mate, and David needs another chance. I believe our maker gives us all another chance, but NZTR is mightier than our maker and far more judgmental, it's an open invitation to David and hopefully he'll apply to the authorities for a clearance,.....he'll love the sun and surf too....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: David was singled out, he was victimised, he can come to me on the Goldie and he has a job, I'll put him on Raceday too, his Dad was my mate, and David needs another chance. Especially the second offence where he got nailed for helping a mate out on a private farm. I see we are getting less of the nonsense head to head bets for horses that can finish anywhere in a field. The type of bet Walker got done for initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: David was singled out, he was victimised, he can come to me on the Goldie and he has a job, I'll put him on Raceday too, his Dad was my mate, and David needs another chance. I believe our maker gives us all another chance, but NZTR is mightier than our maker and far more judgmental, it's an open invitation to David and hopefully he'll apply to the authorities for a clearance,.....he'll love the sun and surf too....... It's people like you who give Racing a bad name... No wonder the generations have deserted this great sport with attitudes like yours... Theres NO greater crime in racing than to pull a horse and bet on an opposing runner...almost as bad as torturing a horse with a Jigger on a treadmill... Victimised...pfffttt...get a grip 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Thomass said: Theres NO greater crime in racing than to pull a horse and bet on an opposing runner...almost as bad as torturing a horse with a Jigger on a treadmill... No comparison and hardly "pulling a horse" when the stupid bet wasn't for a stakes bearing place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Thomass said: It's people like you who give Racing a bad name... No wonder the generations have deserted this great sport with attitudes like yours... Theres NO greater crime in racing than to pull a horse and bet on an opposing runner...almost as bad as torturing a horse with a Jigger on a treadmill... Victimised...pfffttt...get a grip Yep and you've never done anything wrong in your life?........we all know why David did what he did, it's called giving a person a second chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: Yep and you've never done anything wrong in your life?........we all know why David did what he did, it's called giving a person a second chance. Totally agree with Joe Bloggs, David was harshly treated. Christ, we have people in nz that fleece everyone for millions, get a slap on the wrist or 6 month home detention in their mansion??? Davids career was stopped, that was it. Of course he was stupid doing it, for very little gain. Take up Joes offer David👍👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 On 4/09/2020 at 4:29 PM, Joe Bloggs said: Yep and you've never done anything wrong in your life?........we all know why David did what he did, it's called giving a person a second chance. Not me...why did he? Victimised? Having a camera watching him withdraw his ill gotten gains from his criminal behaviour? Privacy Victimisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Thomass said: Not me...why did he? Victimised? Having a camera watching him withdraw his ill gotten gains from his criminal behaviour? Privacy Victimisation? Na the second go of hiding in a hedge watching him work a friends horse on a private property. That was over the top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 A Licensed trainer abusing the rules ok? Its called 'Intel' Like filmingJigger Weir and his mates torturing horses on a treadmill... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Thomass said: A Licensed trainer abusing the rules ok? A private property hardly Awapuni! What harm was being done? As far as I know the TAB aren't taking bets on track gallops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 A Licensed trainer employing a Disqualified person... Look you and old Joe here wouldn't understand INTEGRITY if it bit you on the ass by the looks... The Racing Industry lives and dies with INTEGRITY If participants can't lay in bed straight...time to move on.. Go do something else that doesn't involve being a low life... Thats their second chance...in another Industry Try Real Estate maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Thomass said: A Licensed trainer employing a Disqualified person... Walker effectively got life. Even in Australia you don't get that. FFS what does it have to do with integrity when he rides a horse for a friend on a private track? Zilch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Pulling horses and betting on the Opposition is THE worst fraud a Jock can commit Its nothing to do with a 'friend' if that person is a License holder..who cannot carry out training duties with a DQ'd person..basic stuff this Walker and any other License holder who commits a 'serious Racing offence' especially related to fraud should be wiped out for Life ...Their 'second chance' should be in another Industry...good luck but don't come back Its intolerable that the likes of Walker and Jigger Weir can come knocking again.... Just go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Thomass said: Pulling horses and betting on the Opposition is THE worst fraud a Jock can commit Its nothing to do with a 'friend' if that person is a License holder..who cannot carry out training duties with a DQ'd person..basic stuff this Walker and any other License holder who commits a 'serious Racing offence' especially related to fraud should be wiped out for Life ...Their 'second chance' should be in another Industry...good luck but don't come back Its intolerable that the likes of Walker and Jigger Weir can come knocking again.... Just go away Listen up goose, the shock treatment obviously didn't work during your time away, but's here an analogy for you. Tanya Plibersek long time ALP politician and an extremely talented and learned individual is married to a former drug addict and peddler Michael Coutts Trotter who served 2 years 9 months in jail for his offences. So do I call Tanya the same as what you are calling out the friends and accomplices of David?.......Michael was given a second chance, look how he has turned his life around, he is now, Head. NSW dept community and justice..........now that's called Karma. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Thomass said: Pulling horses and betting on the Opposition is THE worst fraud a Jock can commit The bigger fraud was the TAB offering the dumb arse bet involving no stakes places in the first place. Where else in the world have they offered such a bet? Sure he committed the crime but why wipe him out forever? 15 minutes ago, Thomass said: Its nothing to do with a 'friend' if that person is a License holder..who cannot carry out training duties with a DQ'd person..basic stuff this It was a PRIVATE training track. What possible crime to punting or racing integrity could he have possibly committed? NONE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Thomass said: Walker and any other License holder who commits a 'serious Racing offence' especially related to fraud should be wiped out for Life That would eliminate a fair few people. Real life i.e. outside of racing doesn't work like that. Why is racing any different? Racing judiciary and management are hypocrites anyway. How many of them have a drink driving conviction? Those that have are considered "undesirable" and are supposed to be banned from racecourses and holding a licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: Listen up goose, the shock treatment obviously didn't work during your time away, but's here an analogy for you. Tanya Plibersek long time ALP politician and an extremely talented and learned individual is married to a former drug addict and peddler Michael Coutts Trotter who served 2 years 9 months in jail for his offences. So do I call Tanya the same as what you are calling out the friends and accomplices of David?.......Michael was given a second chance, look how he has turned his life around, he is now, Head. NSW dept community and justice..........now that's called Karma. Ouch, that name relly relly hurts Listen up Moron, I'm a great judge of humanity...and most don't change their crooked spots... Take that crook Pruesker...unbelievably given a second chance...as per your advice... ...on returning found GULITY of not administering vet care to a 2 yo filly...suspended 3 months for tubing another horse... ...and you want that crook Walker back in the industry...and you'd give a horse to Weir I assume.. Get a grip old timer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: That would eliminate a fair few people. Real life i.e. outside of racing doesn't work like that. Why is racing any different? Racing judiciary and management are hypocrites anyway. How many of them have a drink driving conviction? Those that have are considered "undesirable" and are supposed to be banned from racecourses and holding a licence. Yea, try getting a Casino license or job for that matter with a string of DQ's behind you in ANY gambling Industry... All those trainers who were defrauded by that crook Weir all of those years with his incredible success knew he was up to something... ...and he's back in 3 years time...after torturing horse what a f in joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Thomass said: Yea, try getting a Casino license or job for that matter with a string of DQ's behind you in ANY gambling Industry... Walker doesn't have a string of convictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 So you want Crop back as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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