Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, whiplash smile said: I didnt realise that BOAY required APA referencing on a chat forum! You are the one who bought up your training as a scientist, why? Why not? You referenced a specific epidemiologist but can't provide a source. I brought up my training because it has more relevance than an unnamed source. Quote
KickintheKods Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 At no time have I mentioned the National Party in this discussion. You automatically take it upon yourself to assume that I am a follower of that persuaion. Is it the drugs that cause you to do that? Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Would you believe me if I told you that one of the co-researchers that developed and advised the Government regarding the Covid-19 pandemic management strategy was a medical doctor with no experience in epidemiology and was a convicted paedophile would you believe me? yes I would, who cares ,I would think alot of qualified people would have been consulted and doubt the whole successful covid response would have been drastically changed because of one person. Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, Chief Stipe said: Why not? You referenced a specific epidemiologist but can't provide a source. I brought up my training because it has more relevance than an unnamed source. It was a point of view from a qualified person on tv news, I dont feel the need to jump to google in an effort to be the most informed covid scientist around. Who says you are more relevant than the epidemiologist or me, You are just a name to me,What scientist qualification do you have, naming someone doesnt make them right or wrong. I am glad you have spent 100 hours on google, what has it changed? what will it change? Think your trying to grandstand here! If you dont like the situation that you forsee is going to get worse then why not move to sweden Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, whiplash smile said: yes I would, who cares ,I would think alot of qualified people would have been consulted and doubt the whole successful covid response would have been drastically changed because of one person. What if I told that the co-researcher is associated with three of the key Government advisors? Would you care then? Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Name the epidemiologist you keep referencing. What do you mean by "the majority of the rest of the world"? Sweden did it differently and got a better result. Florida did it differently as did South Dakota. so one country and two states? I would call that a minority, wouldnt you? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, whiplash smile said: It was a point of view from a qualified person on tv news, I dont feel the need to jump to google in an effort to be the most informed covid scientist around. Who? Name him or her. Baker, Wilson, Wills, Hendy, Gorman - there hasn't been many. Do you believe everything you hear on the news from any "expert"? Or only those that support your viewpoint? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, whiplash smile said: so one country and two states? I would call that a minority, wouldnt you? Just two examples. Do you want more? Switzerland, North Dakota. Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: What if I told that the co-researcher is associated with three of the key Government advisors? Would you care then? names and specific associations then please, else not relevant, unnamed sources have no credibility Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, Chief Stipe said: Just two examples. Do you want more? Switzerland, North Dakota. they wont be ordering vaccines then? Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, whiplash smile said: names and specific associations then please, else not relevant, unnamed sources have no credibility Professor Michael Baker, Professor Nick Wilson, Dr Matthew Boyd and Dr Osman Mansoor. Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Who? Name him or her. Baker, Wilson, Wills, Hendy, Gorman - there hasn't been many. Do you believe everything you hear on the news from any "expert"? Or only those that support your viewpoint? wasnt a new zealander, yes I base my opinions that I have on experts, not armchair scientists Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Your turn. Name your source Whiplash. Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, Chief Stipe said: Professor Michael Baker, Professor Nick Wilson, Dr Matthew Boyd and Dr Osman Mansoor. And the flaw in the covid response because of this was what? Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, Chief Stipe said: Your turn. Name your source Whiplash. Professor Kevin Wankshire 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, whiplash smile said: wasnt a new zealander, yes I base my opinions that I have on experts, not armchair scientists Josef Mengele had two doctorates - anthropology and medicine. Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Josef Mengele had two doctorates - anthropology and medicine. good for him! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, whiplash smile said: And the flaw in the covid response because of this was what? If you read their research you can see it quite clearly. It is based on ideology and not good science. I would go so far to say that they are happy to see this experiment continue as it gives them data to post validate their crap research. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, whiplash smile said: good for him! Do you even know who Josef Mengele was? Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736(20)32750-1 Do you believe any of this? All the APA referencing in their for you aswell, Meanwhile, COVID-19 cases continue to increase and too many people are dying unnecessarily in a country without timely concerted actions to interrupt the high transmission and reduce the burden of deaths and illness. We declare no competing intere Edited February 14, 2021 by whiplash smile xtra Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Do you even know who Josef Mengele was? couldnt give a flying fuck! 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 Just now, whiplash smile said: couldnt give a flying fuck! He was a Nazi and was in charge of experiments involving humans at Auschwitz. One of his experiments involved finding the best way to exterminate the most number of people efficiently. Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: If you read their research you can see it quite clearly. It is based on ideology and not good science. I would go so far to say that they are happy to see this experiment continue as it gives them data to post validate their crap research. whats not good science? Is it bad science? Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 14, 2021 Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: He was a Nazi and was in charge of experiments involving humans at Auschwitz. One of his experiments involved finding the best way to exterminate the most number of people efficiently. was he a co-reasearcher for nzs covid response aswell? Quote
whiplash smile Posted February 15, 2021 Posted February 15, 2021 In the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Swedish national response continues to be an outlier with cases and deaths increasing more rapidly than in its Nordic neighbours.1,2 On Dec 20, 2020, COVID-19 deaths in Sweden had reached more than 80003 or 787 deaths per 1 million population, which is 4·5 to ten times higher than its neighbours.1 Quote
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