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Instead, the answers to this enigma are to be found in the Swedish national COVID-19 strategy, the assumptions on which it is based, and in the governance of the health system that has enabled the strategy to continue without major course corrections. 

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The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences’ independent review of the available evidence17 validates WHO’s recommendations to keep a physical distance, wear a face mask, keep rooms ventilated, avoid crowds, and practise good hand and respiratory hygiene.

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We declare no competing interests. *Mariam Claeson, Stefan Hanson mariamclaeson@gmail.com Results for Development, Washington, DC 20036, USA (MC); Spånga Transkulturella Läkarmottagning, Spånga, Sweden (SH) 1 Our World in Data. Coronavirus pandemic: daily updated research and data. 2020. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/biweekly-covid-deaths?t ab=chart&time=2020-02-15..latest&country=DNK~FIN~NOR~SWE (accessed Dec 20, 2020). 2 Folkhälsomyndigheten. Public Health Agency of Sweden. Antal fall av covid-19 i Sverige—data till och med föregående dag publiceras varje tisdag-fredag kl. 2020. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f82166 7ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/ (accessed Dec 20, 2020). 3 Platz.se. Coronavirus i Sverige. Dec 20, 2020. https://platz.se/ coronavirus/#jump-to-total-deaths (accessed Dec 20, 2020). 4 Bjorklund K, Ewing A. The Swedish COVID-19 response is a disaster. It shouldn’t be a model for the rest of the world. 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Nov 11, 2020. https://vardgivarguiden.se/globalassets/kunskapsstod/vardhygien/ smittamne-handlingsprogram-och-riktlinjer/skyddsutrustning---enkelsidor/ anvandning-av-visir-och-munskydd-i-all-vard-och-omsorg-20-12-11. pdf?fbclid=IwAR1G_J4oQwsmXzDz_-LzWlC_ TIxtc8iDxjW4cY8NWWAMUjVL2RrYX1WBu2E (accessed Dec 17, 2020). 12 Regeringskansliet. Swedish Government. Ytterligare nationella restriktioner for att hejda smittspridningen, Dec 18, 2020. https://www.regeringen.se/ artiklar/2020/12/ytterligare-nationella-restriktioner-for-att-hejdasmittspridning/ (accessed Dec 20, 2020). 13 Aftonbladet. Corona stoppar alkohol på krogen efter 22. Nov 11, 2020. https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/0KKPX2/corona-stoppar-alkoholpa-krogen-efter-22 (accessed Dec 15, 2020). 14 Folkhälsomyndigheten. Allmänna råd ändras för personer som är 70 år och äldre. Oct 22, 2020. https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/nyheter-ochpress/nyhetsarkiv/2020/oktober/viktigt-att-alla-tar-ansvar-nar-allmannarad-andras-for-personer-som-ar-70-ar-och-aldre/ (accessed Dec 20, 2020). 15 Rocklöv J, Lundbäck B, Larsson E, Elgh F, Sjödin H, Olsen B. Sverige bör byta strategi för att bromsa spridningen av coronavirus. Läkartidningen 2020; 117: FZ7R. 16 Melin M, Ahlbäck Öberg S, Enander A, et al. The Corona Commission. Elderly care during the pandemic. Ministry of Health and Social Affairs, summary of SOU 2020:80. Dec 15, 2020. https://www.government. se/4af26a/contentassets/2b394e1186714875bf29991b4552b374/ summary-of-sou-2020_80-elderly-care-during-the-pandemic.pdf (accessed Dec 16, 2020). 17 Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. Ny rapport om munskydd och ventilation från Vetenskapsakademiens expertgrupp om Covid-19. Nov 19, 2020. https://www.kva.se/sv/pressrum/pressmeddelanden/ ny-rapport-om-munskydd-och-ventilation-fran-vetenskapsakademiensexpertgrupp-om-covid-19 (accessed Dec 16, 2020). 18 WHO. Coronavirus (COVID-19) advice to the public. 2020. https://www. who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public (accessed Dec 16, 2020). 19 Ström M. Fullt på IVA i Stockholm—regionen vädjar om hjälp. Lakartidningen, Dec 9, 2020. https://lakartidningen.se/aktuellt/ nyheter/2020/12/nastan-alla-iva-platser-upptagna-i-stockholm/ (accessed Dec 16, 2020). 20 Hammarström A, Kwiatkowska M, Nyman L, Hammarström E. Felaktig organization grund till tragedin inom äldrevården. Läkartidningen, May 20, 2020. https://lakartidningen.se/opinion/ debatt/2020/05/felaktig-organisation-grund-till-tragedin-inomaldrevarden/ (accessed Dec 17, 2020). 21 Folkhälsomyndigheten. Start för vaccin mot COVID-19 tidigast Januari 2021. Nov 26, 2020. https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/ nyheter-och-press/nyhetsarkiv/2020/november/start-for-vaccinationermot-covid-19-t

 

 

Is that a decent enough named resource for you?   Spose they are all wrong aswell?

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3 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

whats not good science? Is it bad science?

May as well be "bad science" as it doesn't meet the standards of evidence based research.

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Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Published

17 December 2020

Sweden's king has said his country "failed" to save lives with its relatively relaxed approach to the coronavirus pandemic.

King Carl XVI Gustaf made the remarks as part of an annual TV review of the year with the royal family.

Sweden, which has never imposed a full lockdown, has seen nearly 350,000 cases and more than 7,800 deaths - a lot more than its Scandinavian neighbours.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said he agreed with the king's remarks.

"Of course the fact that so many have died can't be considered as anything other than a failure," Mr Lofven told reporters.

Referring to the government's strategy, Mr Lofven added that "it's when we are through the pandemic that the real conclusions can be drawn".

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1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

May as well be "bad science" as it doesn't meet the standards of evidence based research.

If you were to guesstimate a % , what first world countries have not implemented a similiar approach to nz based on WHO reccomendations? gonna blame cindy for executing it more successfully?

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Sweden's state epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, in November explained the strategy relied on a combination of legal and voluntary measures.

He told the BBC that this was, in the Swedish context, "the combination that we really believe is the best one".

 

 

Experts..who would have thought???

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2 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Published

17 December 2020

Sweden's king has said his country "failed" to save lives with its relatively relaxed approach to the coronavirus pandemic.

King Carl XVI Gustaf made the remarks as part of an annual TV review of the year with the royal family.

Sweden, which has never imposed a full lockdown, has seen nearly 350,000 cases and more than 7,800 deaths - a lot more than its Scandinavian neighbours.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said he agreed with the king's remarks.

"Of course the fact that so many have died can't be considered as anything other than a failure," Mr Lofven told reporters.

Referring to the government's strategy, Mr Lofven added that "it's when we are through the pandemic that the real conclusions can be drawn".

Fuck your a Dickhead! that actually goes against chief stipes claim that sweden`s approach was better! you really are a Fucktard!! lol stop embarrasing yourself and take your lithium Fucktard!

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Calm down whipper. Grab a paper bag and put it over your mouth. You're hyper.

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8 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

In the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Swedish national response continues to be an outlier with cases and deaths increasing more rapidly than in its Nordic neighbours.1,2 On Dec 20, 2020, COVID-19 deaths in Sweden had reached more than 80003 or 787 deaths per 1 million population, which is 4·5 to ten times higher than its neighbours.1

The source for this quote?

The "neighbours" had worse flu seasons than Sweden in 2019.  Displaced mortality accounts for some of the differences.  Another reason is that most comparisons don't smooth for each countries demographics.  Contrary to what a superficial view might lead you to think the demographics of Sweden is quite different to its Nordic neighbours.

However that aside the point I was making, which doesn't align with your biased narrative, is that Sweden followed the pre-Covid-19 agreed pandemic plan which was based on a consensus of nations including WHO.  The outcome?  No different than those who followed more stringent lockdown policies e.g. the UK.

The UK has experienced their worst economic contraction since "The Great Frost" of 1709 with a -9.9% reduction in GDP.  Sweden had a contraction of -2.8% or a 350% difference.  What's more where many many UK businesses have gone bust Sweden's have continued to operate and survive.

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11 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

Is that a decent enough named resource for you?   Spose they are all wrong aswell?

But you haven't provided a link to the article or research paper that you have quoted.  The references are pointless as they have no context.  Aside from that I see one is from Time Magazine - a really esteemed medical journal.  Most of the others are references to raw data sources.  So what?

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11 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Published

17 December 2020

Sweden's king has said his country "failed" to save lives with its relatively relaxed approach to the coronavirus pandemic.

King Carl XVI Gustaf made the remarks as part of an annual TV review of the year with the royal family.

Sweden, which has never imposed a full lockdown, has seen nearly 350,000 cases and more than 7,800 deaths - a lot more than its Scandinavian neighbours.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said he agreed with the king's remarks.

"Of course the fact that so many have died can't be considered as anything other than a failure," Mr Lofven told reporters.

Referring to the government's strategy, Mr Lofven added that "it's when we are through the pandemic that the real conclusions can be drawn".

Quoting an aged doddery old monarch and a political figurehead are hardly "good science".

[KickintheKods]

I agree Chief.

It was naughty of me but I am being a bit mischevious - it's like playing with a kitten 

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7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

The source for this quote?

The "neighbours" had worse flu seasons than Sweden in 2019.  Displaced mortality accounts for some of the differences.  Another reason is that most comparisons don't smooth for each countries demographics.  Contrary to what a superficial view might lead you to think the demographics of Sweden is quite different to its Nordic neighbours.

However that aside the point I was making, which doesn't align with your biased narrative, is that Sweden followed the pre-Covid-19 agreed pandemic plan which was based on a consensus of nations including WHO.  The outcome?  No different than those who followed more stringent lockdown policies e.g. the UK.

The UK has experienced their worst economic contraction since "The Great Frost" of 1709 with a -9.9% reduction in GDP.  Sweden had a contraction of -2.8% or a 350% difference.  What's more where many many UK businesses have gone bust Sweden's have continued to operate and survive.

the source is in the link!

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4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

But you haven't provided a link to the article or research paper that you have quoted.  The references are pointless as they have no context.  Aside from that I see one is from Time Magazine - a really esteemed medical journal.  Most of the others are references to raw data sources.  So what?

Bet you their sources are better than your googling.

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10 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

If you were to guesstimate a % , what first world countries have not implemented a similiar approach to nz based on WHO reccomendations? gonna blame cindy for executing it more successfully?

You really are out of your depth on this subject.  WHO did NOT recommend the strategy NZ took.  They said, and they still say, that Lockdowns and isolating a country do more harm than good.

It is going to be interesting watching Cindy (didn't you know she hate being called that?) spin our escape from this BS and reintroduction back into the world especially when the world will have taken their pain and moved on.  How many Covid-19 deaths will be acceptable?  50?  100? or 700 just like the flu each year?

Sweden for one is going to have a great summer - watch this space!

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2 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

I agree Chief.

It was naughty of me but I am being a bit mischevious - it's like playing with a kitten 

As long as you don't end up pulling wings off fly's!

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7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

But you haven't provided a link to the article or research paper that you have quoted.  The references are pointless as they have no context.  Aside from that I see one is from Time Magazine - a really esteemed medical journal.  Most of the others are references to raw data sources.  So what?

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736(20)32750-1

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2 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

Bet you their sources are better than your googling.

Really?  Where is the source for your quotes?  

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3 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736(20)32750-1

FFS that isn't science!  It is a Comment (Opinion) piece written by a banker!  Dr Claeson works for the World Bank!  Guess what she is also funded by Bill and Melinda Gates!

Dr Mariam Claeson

Mariam Claeson, M.D. M.P.H., is the former Director of the Global Financing Facility (GFF) for Every Woman Every Child at the World Bank (2016-2019).

Prior to joining the GFF she served as Director for the Maternal Newborn and Child Health team at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which she joined in July 2012. She was the Program Coordinator for the multisector response to AIDS in the South Asia Region of the World Bank (2005- 2012), living three years in India.

Before that, she was the Lead Public Health Specialist in the Health, Nutrition and Population, Human Development Network of the World Bank (1998- 2004).

Prior to joining the World Bank, Mariam worked for the Global Program for the Control of Diarrheal Diseases, World Health Organization (1987-1995).

She has worked as physician in clinical practice at the rural district level (Tanzania, Bangladesh and Bhutan); in national immunization and diarrheal disease control for WHO (Ethiopia 1984-1986); and, for the World Bank in health sector development programs with a focus on mothers and children, including in Egypt, Jordan, Uzbekistan, China and the Philippines. Mariam is an honorary doctor at the Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden.

 

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2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

You really are out of your depth on this subject.  WHO did NOT recommend the strategy NZ took.  They said, and they still say, that Lockdowns and isolating a country do more harm than good.

It is going to be interesting watching Cindy (didn't you know she hate being called that?) spin our escape from this BS and reintroduction back into the world especially when the world will have taken their pain and moved on.  How many Covid-19 deaths will be acceptable?  50?  100? or 700 just like the flu each year?

Sweden for one is going to have a great summer - watch this space!

I am not out of my depth, you are one disagreeing with the WHO`s recommended response and the GLOBAL strategy, Tell them I dont have the expertise or qualifications to disagree with them but you obviously do.

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1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

FFS that isn't science!  It is a Comment (Opinion) piece written by a banker!  Dr Claeson works for the World Bank!  Guess what she is also funded by Bill and Melinda Gates!

Dr Mariam Claeson

Mariam Claeson, M.D. M.P.H., is the former Director of the Global Financing Facility (GFF) for Every Woman Every Child at the World Bank (2016-2019).

Prior to joining the GFF she served as Director for the Maternal Newborn and Child Health team at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which she joined in July 2012. She was the Program Coordinator for the multisector response to AIDS in the South Asia Region of the World Bank (2005- 2012), living three years in India.

Before that, she was the Lead Public Health Specialist in the Health, Nutrition and Population, Human Development Network of the World Bank (1998- 2004).

Prior to joining the World Bank, Mariam worked for the Global Program for the Control of Diarrheal Diseases, World Health Organization (1987-1995).

She has worked as physician in clinical practice at the rural district level (Tanzania, Bangladesh and Bhutan); in national immunization and diarrheal disease control for WHO (Ethiopia 1984-1986); and, for the World Bank in health sector development programs with a focus on mothers and children, including in Egypt, Jordan, Uzbekistan, China and the Philippines. Mariam is an honorary doctor at the Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden.

 

So what she has references for her facts based on data! Or are we putting on the Bill Gates conspiracy theory tinfoil hat?

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Just now, whiplash smile said:

I am not out of my depth, you are one disagreeing with the WHO`s recommended response and the GLOBAL strategy, Tell them I dont have the expertise or qualifications to disagree with them but you obviously do.

NO no no!  You are out of your depth because you have made an assumption about WHO's recommended response and Global strategy that is wrong.  THEY DID NOT SAY OR RECOMMEND WHAT CINDY DID!  Do you understand?

I don't need qualifications or expertise to read and remember what WHO actually said.

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Just now, whiplash smile said:

So what she has references for her facts based on data! Or are we putting on the Bill Gates conspiracy theory tinfoil hat?

IT IS NOT SCIENCE!  It is an OPINION piece!  No I'm not buying into any Gates conspiracy theory BUT Claeson is writing an OPINION piece and obviously has bias!  IT IS NOT SCIENCE!

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Nah not true, They took advice from the WHO and so did the majority of the world