Mark D Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Judging by today's Wairoa meeting at Hastings the answer is a resounding no. Another giant leap backwards by NZTR, RITA etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Mark D said: Judging by today's Wairoa meeting at Hastings the answer is a resounding no. Another giant leap backwards by NZTR, RITA etc etc Not many there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 When you consider the the size of crowds they would get at Te Kupanga , this is disgraceful , but hey they have their finger on the pulse of NZ racing . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark D said: Judging by today's Wairoa meeting at Hastings the answer is a resounding no. Another giant leap backwards by NZTR, RITA etc etc And Rogerson wants Wairoa and Gisborne reinstated so at least he can try and win the trainers premiership again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, nomates said: When you consider the the size of crowds they would get at Te Kupanga , this is disgraceful , but hey they have their finger on the pulse of NZ racing . They know everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I'd travel and have (horse in tow) 330kms to race and spend a few days at Wairoa and was looking forward to a chance to do that again after a decade on the sidelines. Wouldn't do that again now, even at 130kms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Best week of racing i have been to was when they used to have 3 days , Sat , Wed , Sat , i think , long time ago . Had a ball , eating , drinking then stagger over the small hill to put a bet on , stagger back , what more can you ask of a raceday . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, nomates said: Best week of racing i have been to was when they used to have 3 days , Sat , Wed , Sat , i think , long time ago . Had a ball , eating , drinking then stagger over the small hill to put a bet on , stagger back , what more can you ask of a raceday . Yeah, never been but the OLD coast circuit used to be awesome. Trainers/jockeys/owners arriving at Reefton, then moving en masse ( most of them) to Greymouth or Hokitika for the last three days. Whitebait and champagne breakfasts, lazy days at Lake Kaniere water-skiing, Hokitika Gorge, what a great time Omakau/Cromwell also used to fly, but that has been scuttled too now. All in the interests of progress, of course. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Track always perfect. Lovely shady yards for the horses. Seafood galore and really good times had by all. Subsidised travel and accommodation and an individualised hand written thank you letter from the president afterwards. They knew how to do it and looked after the people putting on the show. Edited February 21, 2021 by curious 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Freda said: Yeah, never been but the OLD coast circuit used to be awesome. Trainers/jockeys/owners arriving at Reefton, then moving en masse ( most of them) to Greymouth or Hokitika for the last three days. Whitebait and champagne breakfasts, lazy days at Lake Kaniere water-skiing, Hokitika Gorge, what a great time Omakau/Cromwell also used to fly, but that has been scuttled too now. All in the interests of progress, of course. There will come a time and we/they will look back and just go , WHY !! , Why , how did we get this so spectacularly wrong , but it will all be too late , we have already lost a generation or more , we are just making sure the next doesn't get a chance either . 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 hours ago, curious said: I'd travel and have (horse in tow) 330kms to race and spend a few days at Wairoa and was looking forward to a chance to do that again after a decade on the sidelines. Wouldn't do that again now, even at 130kms. Speaking of travel, interesting trip Andrew Forseman driving home from Auckland on his own, pulling up on the side of the road and watching on phone his horse win first up in Australia. Like the idea of a golf tourny at these circuit meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Centaur said: Like the idea of a golf tourny at these circuit meetings. Used to have that there too ...https://www.facebook.com/NZTrainersAssociation/posts/wairoa-racing-club-trainers-newsletter-we-invite-trainers-to-take-a-racing-holid/370182793078478/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Freda said: Yeah, never been but the OLD coast circuit used to be awesome. Trainers/jockeys/owners arriving at Reefton, then moving en masse ( most of them) to Greymouth or Hokitika for the last three days. Whitebait and champagne breakfasts, lazy days at Lake Kaniere water-skiing, Hokitika Gorge, what a great time Omakau/Cromwell also used to fly, but that has been scuttled too now. All in the interests of progress, of course. Even the old whitebait an endangered species these day, according to the green party, and forest fish and bird sticking their oar in, or should that be beak, as for the poor old hoki races, all but a memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 And of course these courses were shut down as their maintenance was costing too much and therefore the "industry" would save money. Running total of money saved so far 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Mark D said: And of course these courses were shut down as their maintenance was costing too much and therefore the "industry" would save money. Running total of money saved so far 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00000 Will be very interesting to see the turnovers , on course and off , and compare them to last couple of years back home . There is no way the club did better on course than when at Wairoa . I would suggest that the racing industry is not financially better off because the meeting was at Hastings . I actually felt sorry for the people of Wairoa missing out on a day at the races , seeing the deserted stands yesterday , Hasting can't even fill them for their own big days . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 21/02/2021 at 4:07 PM, nomates said: There will come a time and we/they will look back and just go , WHY !! , Why , how did we get this so spectacularly wrong , but it will all be too late , we have already lost a generation or more , we are just making sure the next doesn't get a chance either . Youre right there will come a time, but rest assured it isn't your fault, they have been told over and over again and will not listen, they won't even listen to the numbers , there is an agenda at play that will ruin the industry over the next few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Mark D said: And of course these courses were shut down as their maintenance was costing too much and therefore the "industry" would save money. Running total of money saved so far 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00000 Interesting you say that with the loss of Poverty Bay, Wairoa , Woodville, Stratford, Waipukarau any others can anyone apart from the obvious asset grab give any evidence as to how this is making the industry operate any better ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Huey said: loss of Poverty Bay, Wairoa , Woodville, Stratford, Waipukarau any others can anyone apart from the obvious asset grab Um where did the "grabbed assets" end up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Um where did the "grabbed assets" end up? The grabbing is coming , you think not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Huey said: The grabbing is coming , you think not? Yes but I'm asking what happened to the previously grabbed assets? The "grabbing" so far seems to have made things worse and made the appetite to grab more insatiable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes but I'm asking what happened to the previously grabbed assets? The "grabbing" so far seems to have made things worse and made the appetite to grab more insatiable. Absolutely agree, I'm guessing wasted I'm also in the future guessing going to be wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Um where did the "grabbed assets" end up? Have they been 'grabbed' yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Poverty Bay was leased i think so no assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, mumbles said: Poverty Bay was leased i think so no assets. Money in the bank. They sold and then leased back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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