mikeynz Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, mumbles said: That stadium along with others built ,like the Waikato Stadium are a sponge on ratepayers money.The bludging never stops. If the Rugby Unions had to pay market rates they would fold. I think most stadiums are a bit of a drain and yes the rugby union never seem to front up with some cash to build,they only turn up to cash in,it still doesn't change the fact though that the stadium is still a great complex,and the original comment was regarding the negative old farts on council who don't want anything positive done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Freda said: Riccarton got 10 mill..... That was thanks to Winston... he's no longer there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Getting back to the Wyndham situation,for a while there were no race dates,no workouts and no trials,seems somewhere there has been a change of heart,trials today,races 31 march,seems it's not gone yet,probably won't be either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Getting back to the Wyndham situation,for a while there were no race dates,no workouts and no trials,seems somewhere there has been a change of heart,trials today,races 31 march,seems it's not gone yet,probably won't be either. It is now rated the #1 track in Southland.... big change of heart 😅😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, mikeynz said: I think most stadiums are a bit of a drain and yes the rugby union never seem to front up with some cash to build,they only turn up to cash in,it still doesn't change the fact though that the stadium is still a great complex,and the original comment was regarding the negative old farts on council who don't want anything positive done Visionaries are what most organisations lack.Remember Sir Dove Meyer Robinson wanting light rail in Auckland many years ago at a cost of 12million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davis said: It is now rated the #1 track in Southland.... big change of heart 😅😅 What a mess the whole lot of it though, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, mikeynz said: I think most stadiums are a bit of a drain and yes the rugby union never seem to front up with some cash to build,they only turn up to cash in,it still doesn't change the fact though that the stadium is still a great complex,and the original comment was regarding the negative old farts on council who don't want anything positive done Talking about stadiums that Rugby ground in Invercargill is becoming a liability,yet Nelson once a back block now has a Stadium up to test standard probably brought about by the success of Tasman in the NPC so if you have sporting teams that succeed you have some positives,and losers like invers it's all negative. But the rugby guys do piggy back off the councils in many ways but they do need each other really. Edited February 26, 2021 by mikeynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, Davis said: It is now rated the #1 track in Southland.... big change of heart 😅😅 Davis what have you heard that I haven't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, mikeynz said: Davis what have you heard that I haven't? I read it on Harnessed... I'll try and find the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Talking about stadiums that Rugby ground in Invercargill is becoming a liability,yet Nelson once a back block now has a Stadium up to test standard probably brought about by the success of Tasman in the NPC so if you have sporting teams that succeed you have some positives,and losers like invers it's all negative. But the rugby guys do piggy back off the councils in many ways but they do need each other really. Just to clarify that comment ,I'm not saying invers people are losers but the struggles of the rugby team mean the stadiums tends to become a underused facility,people want winners,crowds of 20000 use to go to touring matches,now a thing of the past,few turn up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, Davis said: I read it on Harnessed... I'll try and find the link. Found it and read it,seems if Forbury shuts not keen for anything else,shift those dates to Wyndham,in all reality would they want all the racing,gee changes in thoughts aye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Freda said: Riccarton got 10 mill..... And she's pouring truckloads in to the new Dunedin hospital ....and already it's behind schedule and over budget. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, mumbles said: Visionaries are what most organisations lack.Remember Sir Dove Meyer Robinson wanting light rail in Auckland many years ago at a cost of 12million. "People with visions should go to the doctor." (Helmut Schmidt) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Basil said: "People with visions should go to the doctor." (Helmut Schmidt) fuk you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Davis said: It is now rated the #1 track in Southland.... big change of heart 😅😅 According to the report they state that no new complex and not sure if Wingatui is probable either which means boom,suggesting moving all the dates to Wyndham,not sure if they would want all that racing so so much to consider,very difficult and changing times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Sorry but I've basically repeated a post two or three post above,such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Southland Race club president reckons trotting club buy Forbury lights and have night racing in Southland,any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Southland Race club president reckons trotting club buy Forbury lights and have night racing in Southland,any thoughts ? I'm confused. Where will they put the lights? Ascot Park is marked for closure, so unlikely to be worth installing there. I think Wyndham is too big a track for the Forbury lights, they would need double or triple the lighting that Forbury had likewise Winton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davis said: I'm confused. Where will they put the lights? Ascot Park is marked for closure, so unlikely to be worth installing there. I think Wyndham is too big a track for the Forbury lights, they would need double or triple the lighting that Forbury had likewise Winton? I think Southland Race club should buy them,uts their course,might be looking at something to inject life back in to place but frankly in summer its daylight till ten,in winter well it's too cold,isn't that one of Forburys downfall,winter racing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) On 2/26/2021 at 9:25 PM, mikeynz said: I would suspect Wingatui, but who knows,Forbury was the first time I went to the races1975 Festival ,night 2,that's where I got the bug but at the time the spectacle was colourful and exciting,and the crowds who turned up were impressive too, times change,just trying to think of some of the horses and races that were . I've just been checking out the results from that first meeting I went to Forbury,that was a midweeker as Auckland had the intercoms. Gee good fields,good horse,that was par for the course for Forbury in those days so one question,where has it gone so wrong,any answers? Just to add hrnz website has great historic results section,one can get lost in them for ages. Edited March 2, 2021 by mikeynz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, mikeynz said: I've just been checking out the results from that first meeting I went to Forbury,that was a midweeker as Auckland had the intercoms. Gee good fields,good horse,that was par for the course for Forbury in those days so one question,where has it gone so wrong,any answers? Just to add hrnz website has great historic results section,one can get lost in them for ages. One answer would be that there wasn't as much racing in those days. Another that there were more OC horses in that era too. You had to win 10 races to get to Cup class, not an easy task. Nowadays, five or six win horses get a start in the NZ Cup. There were also so more horses trained in the south in those days. South Canterbury had a lot of good trainers back then, few train in the area now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, Davis said: One answer would be that there wasn't as much racing in those days. Another that there were more OC horses in that era too. You had to win 10 races to get to Cup class, not an easy task. Nowadays, five or six win horses get a start in the NZ Cup. There were also so more horses trained in the south in those days. South Canterbury had a lot of good trainers back then, few train in the area now. 32 minutes ago, Davis said: One answer would be that there wasn't as much racing in those days. Another that there were more OC horses in that era too. You had to win 10 races to get to Cup class, not an easy task. Nowadays, five or six win horses get a start in the NZ Cup. There were also so more horses trained in the south in those days. South Canterbury had a lot of good trainers back then, few train in the area now. Maybe there is overkill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Just watching Wingatui, a big grass track and a training track inside so where would a all weather trotting go,if any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Interesting how the suits who want to close racing down in Dunedin area because of lack of horse population yet four winners at Oamaru yesty,2 from Waikouiti,I from the plains and one from Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 hours ago, mikeynz said: Interesting how the suits who want to close racing down in Dunedin area because of lack of horse population yet four winners at Oamaru yesty,2 from Waikouiti,I from the plains and one from Brighton. I was talking to a local hobby interest owner/trainer for whom meetings like Forbury have been invaluable over the years. As he said, from Oamaru south until you hit Southland, the list of venues is fast becoming zero. People who have been the heartbeat, life and blood of the industry, are thus effectively being driven out. And that just gives the suits justification for closing more down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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