Ludwig Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 This Sunday is the annual harness meeting for Waimate. Excellent nominations, as usual, but I feel sad for the good folk at Waimate that, thanks to the suits, they have to race at Oamaru. I don't really see the logic. Waimate have a good track and facilities, well maintained by locals. The day is well supported by locals, and helps to keep the grassroots base of racing alive. So what happens? They have to race at Oamaru...it all seems very unfair to the Waimate community. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Ludwig said: I don't really see the logic. Waimate have a good track and facilities, well maintained by locals. to much bird shit on the stand seats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr riddle Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Not bird shit, just kennetts dribble 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ludwig said: This Sunday is the annual harness meeting for Waimate. Excellent nominations, as usual, but I feel sad for the good folk at Waimate that, thanks to the suits, they have to race at Oamaru. I don't really see the logic. Waimate have a good track and facilities, well maintained by locals. The day is well supported by locals, and helps to keep the grassroots base of racing alive. So what happens? They have to race at Oamaru...it all seems very unfair to the Waimate community. Nice thread Ludwig 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Mr riddle said: Not bird shit, just kennetts dribble i hope mr kennett is alright after the incident last wednesday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Waimate have been given a poor deal here,a good date but probably by being at Oamaru will now be just another ho hum affair,will the people who flocked to Waimate flock to Oamaru? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Waimate have been given a poor deal here,a good date but probably by being at Oamaru will now be just another ho hum affair,will the people who flocked to Waimate flock to Oamaru? I agree. Especially after the community of Waimate did all the hard work of demolition/rebuilding the grandstand/admin areas. Its a real slap in the face for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ludwig said: I agree. Especially after the community of Waimate did all the hard work of demolition/rebuilding the grandstand/admin areas. Its a real slap in the face for them. They need to get stuck into the harness officialdom seeking reinstatement,why the obsession with ridding the industry of these small community setups, they probably don't cost the industry anything. Edited March 22, 2021 by mikeynz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, mikeynz said: They need to get stuck into the harness officialdom seeking reinstatement,why the obsession with ridding the industry of these small community setups, they probably don't cost the industry anything. its most baffling what does brief front footer woodham think of this are you reading gary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Rangatira said: i hope mr kennett is alright after the incident last wednesday Who is this Kennett dude? was he a licensed person? or some flog with 'private' facebook page for selected folk to slander the industry? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Gammalite said: Who is this Kennett dude? was he a licensed person? or some flog with 'private' facebook page for selected folk to slander the industry? yes to both 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: yes to both such a shame for harness racing. You can be a critic of things , but going to that level. such a shame. fits forbs MO 17 hours ago, Ludwig said: . Waimate have a good track and facilities, well maintained by locals. The day is well supported by locals, I think probably race at Oamaru to get away from that Waimate dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gammalite said: such a shame for harness racing. You can be a critic of things , but going to that level. such a shame. fits forbs MO not just harness racing in his sights lol forbs yeah nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Who is this Kennett dude? was he a licensed person? or some flog with 'private' facebook page for selected folk to slander the industry? He just has some differing opinions and ways of expressing them to most,and cops a bit of flak for that. I'm not sure what happens on social media platforms,but people do seem to like mocking him for some reason,which is often over the top. A few years ago I thought about moving to Waimate. It is a nice wee town of about 8000 people. On the negative side it is a town that often has poor air quality and higher nitrate levels in the water.Just up the road Timaru used to have the worst air quality in oceania and it still has poor air quality. I once lived in oamaru and there was always a lot of waimate jokes. Can't repeat most of them but generally you were told to come home before they locked the gates at night and not to drink the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, the galah said: I once lived in oamaru and there was always a lot of waimate jokes. Can't repeat most of them but generally you were told to come home before they locked the gates at night and not to drink the water. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, the galah said: A few years ago I thought about moving to Waimate. It is a nice wee town of about 8000 people. On the negative side it is a town that often has poor air quality and higher nitrate levels in the water.Just up the road Timaru used to have the worst air quality in oceania and it still has poor air quality. I once lived in oamaru and there was always a lot of waimate jokes. Can't repeat most of them but generally you were told to come home before they locked the gates at night and not to drink the water. Wonder what gives it the poor air? I raced at Arawa Park Rotorua once and apart from racing on grass being the roughest experience. (Try riding a bicycle across a paddock and see what I mean, but try to get up over 25mph) the sulphur in the air wasn't that great an experience either. The COOL CRISP air of the South Island must be pure like Tasmania ? we are lush and green like NZ just now, as has been raining for a week Qld, and even worse in NSW places , they are getting washed away. worst in 60 years in some parts. Homes are floating down the rivers ! poor buggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Gammalite said: Wonder what gives it the poor air? I raced at Arawa Park Rotorua once and apart from racing on grass being the roughest experience. (Try riding a bicycle across a paddock and see what I mean, but try to get up over 25mph) the sulphur in the air wasn't that great an experience either. The COOL CRISP air of the South Island must be pure like Tasmania ? we are lush and green like NZ just now, as has been raining for a week Qld, and even worse in NSW places , they are getting washed away. worst in 60 years in some parts. Homes are floating down the rivers ! poor buggers. Rotorua used to be one of the worst in nz for air quality,not sure what its like now days. Washdyke in timaru probably the worst in nz if you go by days over a certain high risk level. Waimate had very close to the worst air yesterday in nz,but it varies a bit depending on the weather..Apparently experts say they see many more paitients % wise with lung cancer from the places with poor air quality. You refer to the "cool crisp air" of the south island,but air quality over winter is normally worse in the cooler places with population bases. The floods over in aussie look rather devastating for those effected. Edited March 23, 2021 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: Love the humour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, the galah said: Washdyke in timaru probably the worst in nz if you go by days over a certain high risk level. Waimate had very close to the worst air yesterday in nz,but it varies a bit depending on the weather..Apparently experts say they see many more paitients % wise with lung cancer from the places with poor air quality. You refer to the "cool crisp air" of the south island,but air quality over winter is normally worse in the cooler places with population bases. The floods over in aussie look rather devastating for those effected. 18,000 odd evacuated. weather has gone crazy NSW . dam near full inland from Sydney. Is at full release. terrible times for 1000's of folk today. That is crazy with the air pollution? Waimate Timaru Oamaru all on the Pacific coast so how does the Sea -air not blow it all away. ? Does everyone have those wood burning pot-bellies going ? Years ago in Hobart Tas (with it's cool crisp clean air) they BANNED burning wood altogeather , as cold there 10 months of the year, so with 1000's of fireplaces burning , the air quality and pollution got terrible. Now they have power driven heaters sitting in all those old house fireplaces through Hobart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gammalite said: 18,000 odd evacuated. weather has gone crazy NSW . dam near full inland from Sydney. Is at full release. terrible times for 1000's of folk today. That is crazy with the air pollution? Waimate Timaru Oamaru all on the Pacific coast so how does the Sea -air not blow it all away. ? Does everyone have those wood burning pot-bellies going ? Years ago in Hobart Tas (with it's cool crisp clean air) they BANNED burning wood altogeather , as cold there 10 months of the year, so with 1000's of fireplaces burning , the air quality and pollution got terrible. Now they have power driven heaters sitting in all those old house fireplaces through Hobart. You get the summer breezes during the hot summer days. Land heats up quicker than water,over summer the warm air over the land rises,and the cool air from the ocean comes in and replaces the warm rising air. At least thats how i think it works. Besides you hardly get much of a sea breeze at night,and night time is when people heat their houses especially in winter. Port activity can be a factor in air quality,and of course so are industrialised areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, the galah said: You get the summer breezes during the hot summer days. Land heats up quicker than water,over summer the warm air over the land rises,and the cool air from the ocean comes in and replaces the warm rising air. At least thats how i think it works. Besides you hardly get much of a sea breeze at night,and night time is when people heat their houses especially in winter. Port activity can be a factor in air quality,and of course so are industrialised areas. at waimate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: at waimate? yes port waimate is handling the deporting of section 501 wallabies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, the galah said: You get the summer breezes during the hot summer days. Land heats up quicker than water,over summer the warm air over the land rises,and the cool air from the ocean comes in and replaces the warm rising air. At least thats how i think it works. Besides you hardly get much of a sea breeze at night,and night time is when people heat their houses especially in winter. Port activity can be a factor in air quality,and of course so are industrialised areas. Sorry to disagree but it doesn't quite work like that..... I'm a weather nut - favourite subject at Uni and as a pilot, horticulturalist and sailor. Canterbury is similar to parts of California especially Los Angeles. You have the predominant wind coming from across a mountain range (west coast), then a wide plain and a uniquely cool sea on the east coast plus Banks Peninsula (BP) which creates a basin. The wind being uplifted over the Alps warms but the plains on the East Coast quickly cool during the Winter. So you get a temperature inversion occurring between the mountains and the sea/BP - worse in Christchurch because it is closer to BP than Waimate. The sea breezes are actually prevented from having an impact or breaking up the inversion. This basin/funnel is quite large and even though there isn't the same geography scenario at Waimate the effects created further north are still experienced. However there is also a temperature inversion over the sea - warm over cold. Basically you get a layer of warmer air sitting on top of cold air. Cold air sinks and the warm air keeps it down low. Causes Fog and the smoke particulates can't disperse so you get Smog. The inversion can be so pronounced in a short distance in altitude that you could have a -7C Degree frost on the plain and then go up in altitude onto the Port Hills on Banks Peninsula and have no frost at all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rangatira said: yes port waimate is handling the deporting of section 501 wallabies The airways are about to open between Oz and NZ again very soon Ranga. no need to ship. Please send the plane load of 501's to Alice Springs. (drop Nat off in Brissy on way past, if shes on) Which town would you like this Air New Zealand section 501 flight (with Nicholas Cage on) sent to? , we have ready to go ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Sorry to disagree but it doesn't quite work like that..... I'm a weather nut - favourite subject at Uni and as a pilot, horticulturalist and sailor. Canterbury is similar to parts of California especially Los Angeles. You have the predominant wind coming from across a mountain range (west coast), then a wide plain and the warmer sea on the east coast plus Banks Peninsula (BP) which creates a basin. The wind being uplifted over the Alps warms but the plains on the East Coast quickly cool during the Winter. So you get a temperature inversion occurring between the mountains and the sea/BP - worse in Christchurch because it is closer to BP than Waimate. The sea breezes are actually prevented from having an impact or breaking up the inversion. This basin/funnel is quite large and even though there isn't the same geography scenario at Waimate the effects created further north are still experienced. However there is also a temperature inversion over the sea - warm over cold. Basically you get a layer of warmer air sitting on top of cold air. Cold air sinks and the warm air keeps it down low. Causes Fog and the smoke particulates can't disperse so you get Smog. Sounds ok to live in those places as long as you wear a gas mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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