Chief Stipe Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Draft Code of Conduct and Social Media Policy Regulations 4 May 2021 , Official Notice HRNZ is looking to introduce Code of Conduct and Social Media Policy Regulations which can be viewed here. The object and purpose of these regulations is to ensure that the participants of harness racing in New Zealand conduct themselves in an appropriate manner, particularly in their engagement with other participants. As part of the consultation process, please find attached these proposed regulations for your information. Please provide any feedback to Liz Bishop at lbishop@hrnz.co.nz by 4.00 pm on Wednesday 26 May 2021. It is intended that the Code of Conduct and Social Media Policy Regulations will come into force on 1 July 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 If the attached Code of Conduct comes into effect it is an incentive for the Chief to get share in a harness horse! Don't worry posters you'll never have to declare who you are on BOAY! Code-of-Conduct-and-Social-Media-Policy-Regulations-22-April-2021-Draft.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Don't worry posters you'll never have to declare who you are on BOAY! thank you chief this one did have me worried 4.1.5.2 ensure they do not knowingly use the identity of another participant or an employee of a harness racing related individual including variations of a name i swear half the time i am not sure who htp has identified me as 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rangatira said: i swear half the time i am not sure who htp has identified me as Maurie Holmes I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 Seriously though surely HRNZ are bigger than monitoring Owners social media activity? Not a good sign. Points to less transparency and a rounding of the wagons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Maurie Holmes I believe. if the cap fits ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Seriously though surely HRNZ are bigger than monitoring Owners social media activity? Not a good sign. Points to less transparency and a rounding of the wagons. I agree. While it may not be HRNZ's intention, it very much looks like a case of trying to silence the messenger. Not exactly confidence-inspiring... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Very much Socialist like! It is like where Ardern told all her Labour Party pollies, to,not say anything! They have been sucked into our BS so we do not have to justify anything to the mortals! They are trying to shut down anyone that doesnt agree with them! Harness racing is in dire need of listening to its participants before it is too late. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Brodie said: Very much Socialist like! It is like where Ardern told all her Labour Party pollies, to,not say anything! They have been sucked into our BS so we do not have to justify anything to the mortals! They are trying to shut down anyone that doesnt agree with them! Harness racing is in dire need of listening to its participants before it is too late. Andrew Little's upcoming hate speech laws will be far worse mate. I think HRNZ are wise to start planning ahead. You better watch what you are saying when angry Little's laws are passed in Parliament. The hate speech legislation will be a disaster for the likes of you Brodie... old white Caucasian... public enemy No. !. Unfortunately, the taxpayer-subsided Stuff will be on Little's side. Beware. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davis said: Andrew Little's upcoming hate speech laws will be far worse mate. I think HRNZ are wise to start planning ahead. You better watch what you are saying when angry Little's laws are passed in Parliament. The hate speech legislation will be a disaster for the likes of you Brodie... old white Caucasian... public enemy No. !. Unfortunately, the taxpayer-subsided Stuff will be on Little's side. Beware. Less of the old Davis! Little and Co.do not worry me one iota. Hate speech is just such a load of crock. How much BS have we had to accept from this bloke over the years, absolute non achiever, how much BS and money wasted on Pike River????? This long list of non achiever lefties should start doing what they campaigned on! Thats right I was probably forgetting that they have no idea of how to run anything correctly. Even Richard Prebble is now coming out and stating that Tubby is the worst finance minister since Muldoon. I say he is the worst and most incompetent we nave ever had. The sooner the supporters take their blinkers off and actually see how stupid they were to put them back in charge for another 3 years the better. Is anyone prepared to state that they are better off under the Socialist government and why they think they are better off? Edited May 5, 2021 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Rangatira said: i swear half the time i am not sure who htp has identified me as Your not alone but as Neville said a while back HTP has never been right about who posters are 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 16 hours ago, Brodie said: Less of the old Davis! Little and Co.do not worry me one iota. Hate speech is just such a load of crock. How much BS have we had to accept from this bloke over the years, absolute non achiever, how much BS and money wasted on Pike River????? This long list of non achiever lefties should start doing what they campaigned on! Thats right I was probably forgetting that they have no idea of how to run anything correctly. Even Richard Prebble is now coming out and stating that Tubby is the worst finance minister since Muldoon. I say he is the worst and most incompetent we nave ever had. The sooner the supporters take their blinkers off and actually see how stupid they were to put them back in charge for another 3 years the better. Is anyone prepared to state that they are better off under the Socialist government and why they think they are better off? I agree with most of what you say mate and I know that you are not old! Little is dangerous. If you think that hate speech laws won't affect you just look at what is happening the U.K. where similar legislation was introduced recently. Be afraid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robalan Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Brodie, can you provide some facts to back your statement about Grant Robertsons performance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiplash smile Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 On 5/05/2021 at 10:33 PM, Brodie said: Is anyone prepared to state that they are better off under the Socialist government and why they think they are better off? didnt you state that you have done unbelievably well under the labour govt? Why is that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiplash smile Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 On 7/05/2021 at 7:42 AM, Robalan said: Brodie, can you provide some facts to back your statement about Grant Robertsons performance ol tubby lost the pie eating contest to gerry Brownlee! I think thats what brodie means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, whiplash smile said: didnt you state that you have done unbelievably well under the labour govt? Why is that? Lol Yes Whiplash personally due to their meddling we are a helluva lot better off. Wont explain why, however the question I asked was who thought they were better off under this Socialist Government! The ones who voted for Labour thinking that they would be better off financially will not be! Obviously I didnt vote for the Socialists as I want a government to have business and economic sense rather than trying to crucify businesses and people that want to better themselves! This lot are just so out of their depth. Everything they touch is a fail! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 One poster has stopped posting in fear of the repercussions of the HRNZ proposed Code of Conduct in particular one clause that says Harness participants including owners need to identify themselves on social media. The so called "Code of Conduct" rules don't come into effect until 1 July. In any event the way they are currently written are at odds with laws of the land that take precedence. Quite frankly I wouldn't worry about it. In terms of my position as owner and moderator of BOAY as I have said many times before it would take a Court Order to attempt to identify any poster on BOAY. I would also personally defend that position and fight any legal action to identify individuals. If HRNZ wish to take on that fight then please do. I'd even be willing to purchase a small share in a Harness horse as a Test Case. I would have thought that HRNZ had bigger things to worry about e.g. sorting out the prevention of horse shares being oversold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiplash smile Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I would have thought that HRNZ had bigger things to worry about e.g. sorting out the prevention of horse shares being oversold. And this whip rule debacle and brodies restrictions, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) I would like to formally declare that I am me. If HRNZ wants to believe I'm someone that I'm not, they are more than welcome to do so. If they are in doubt, then can simply man up and ask me, I might actually tell them. If they want to be scared little sissy's about it, then they can send the FBI around to hide in the bushes around my home and maybe they can try to work out who they think I am, without me even knowing about it. However, my dog will likely know they are snooping long before the FBI get very far into their investigation. Also my dog has a sort of talent of unwelcoming people I haven't first welcomed. On a more serious note, a social media policy has been part of the Greyhound code for a few years now, which they have actioned & enforced from time to time. It is one of the main reason I had decided to relinquish my GRNZ license several years ago. If I have something to say, I'll say it when & how I choose to whether some association thinks I should or not... https://www.grnz.co.nz/OldAdmin/Files/Documents/Greyhound Racing Assn Social Media Policy Licensed Persons.pdf Edited May 18, 2021 by Yankiwi 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: I would like to formally declare that I am me. If HRNZ wants to believe I'm someone that I'm not, they are more than welcome to do so. If they are in doubt, then can simply man up and ask me, I might actually tell them. If they want to be scared little sissy's about it, then they can send the FBI around to hide in the bushes around my home and maybe they can try to work out who they think I am, without me even knowing about it. However, my dog will likely know they are snooping long before the FBI get very far into their investigation. Also my dog has a sort of talent of unwelcoming people I haven't first welcomed. On a more serious note, a social media policy has been part of the Greyhound code for a few years now, which they have actioned & enforced from time to time. It is one of the main reason I had decided to relinquish my GRNZ license several years ago. If I have something to say, I'll say it when & how I choose to whether some association thinks I should or not... https://www.grnz.co.nz/OldAdmin/Files/Documents/Greyhound Racing Assn Social Media Policy Licensed Persons.pdf Well said Yank... And, quite frankly, who the fuck are these people promulgating these industry restrictions? Should we be reaching for our copy of 1984 to see who the piggy is? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: On a more serious note, a social media policy has been part of the Greyhound code for a few years now, which they have actioned & enforced from time to time. It is one of the main reason I had decided to relinquish my GRNZ license several years ago. But the GRNZ policy only covers licensee's doesn't it? Not owners. Even then the policy doesn't insist on using your real name and is focused on comments not being made on behalf of GRNZ. It also refers to the relevant Act's in its policy which supersede the GRNZ policy and provide ample protection for participants. Whereas the HRNZ policy looks to silence everyone and make them accountable. That is a step too far in my opinion and is a sign of insecurity on HRNZs part. Once again trying to set a holier than thou standard above common law sets them up for failure. I say again why aren't they focusing in the important things that they do legitimately have control over - marketing, increasing Stakes, protecting owners from being ripped off, animal welfare etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 Meanwhile the best they can come up with is "no comment" or "I haven't been briefed" when a journalist knocks on their door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: But the GRNZ policy only covers licensee's doesn't it? Not owners. To own a racing greyhound, even a tiny portion of one hidden away in a syndicate, you are required to be a GRNZ LP. 32 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Whereas the HRNZ policy looks to silence everyone and make them accountable. Even if I had set up a BOAY account & HRNZ didn't like something the account had said, who's to say my fingers were the ones to make the statement. Are the RIU prepared to take fingerprint samples off the corresponding keys on our family laptop to find out whether it was my wife or me that said what they didn't like two days ago? What about all the fingerprints on top of those of interest from two days ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: To own a racing greyhound, even a tiny portion of one hidden away in a syndicate, you are required to be a GRNZ LP. Didnt know that. Geez these codes make it hard for themselves. No wonder they behave like bad policemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: Even if I had set up a BOAY account & HRNZ didn't like something the account had said, who's to say my fingers were the ones to make the statement. Are the RIU prepared to take fingerprint samples off the corresponding keys on our family laptop to find out whether it was my wife or me that said what they didn't like two days ago? What about all the fingerprints on top of those of interest from two days ago? RIU/Purcell vs Morton set a precedent which I would have thought HRNZ would have noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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