Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: Add to that the fact that the % return the TAB are making on their Fixed Odds Harness Turnover has improved by a couple of % over the past 3years, which has resulted in a better return to the codes. Where did you get those figures from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: Add to that the fact that the % return the TAB are making on their Fixed Odds Harness Turnover has improved by a couple of % over the past 3years, which has resulted in a better return to the codes. Restrictions paying off ? Edited August 13, 2021 by Rangatira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: It has increased. Plenty of examples of this, including a club i work with Nelson Harness Racing Club at their meeting in Jan 2021 did over 3million dollars turnover for their 2 day meeting. An increase of over 1 million dollars turnover. A significant effort on promotions and marketing had crowd numbers up and on course turnover up tens of thousands of dollars. Fixed Odds betting now equals about 52-54% of the total turnover. While tote pools are the remaining 46-48% of turnover. Add to that the fact that the % return the TAB are making on their Fixed Odds Harness Turnover has improved by a couple of % over the past 3years, which has resulted in a better return to the codes. As Chief has asked, where are the figures for fixed odds?? Matt Peden’s noteworthy bets do not seem that noteworthy to mention! $50 bets are worth mentioning!!!! If the fixed odds betting is increasing and profit yield increasing how about the NZ TAB allowing all punters on, Andrew???? Have a word to the Bookies or whoever you are getting these figures from and as Michael Guerin suggested, be fair to all Punters! we know they wont, as they like to treat punters differently and unfairly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Brodie said: If the fixed odds betting is increasing and profit yield increasing how about the NZ TAB allowing all punters on, Andrew???? And undo the great work ? Be kind to the industry, plunder the tote champ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarded driver Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: It has increased. Plenty of examples of this, including a club i work with Nelson Harness Racing Club at their meeting in Jan 2021 did over 3million dollars turnover for their 2 day meeting. An increase of over 1 million dollars turnover. A significant effort on promotions and marketing had crowd numbers up and on course turnover up tens of thousands of dollars. Fixed Odds betting now equals about 52-54% of the total turnover. While tote pools are the remaining 46-48% of turnover. Add to that the fact that the % return the TAB are making on their Fixed Odds Harness Turnover has improved by a couple of % over the past 3years, which has resulted in a better return to the codes. How much did you help the tab with all your losing tips.you really want to compete with the whale(goldfish)to see who can lose the most.FACT. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, retarded driver said: How much did you help the tab with all your losing tips.you really want to compete with the whale(goldfish)to see who can lose the most.FACT. Have to be crazy to listen to anyone other that the galah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: And undo the great work ? Be kind to the industry, plunder the tote champ. Tote pools nowadays on harness are too small to bet anything worthwhile Ranga! I only ask to be treated equally with all other punters, that is what kindness is all about! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Brodie said: Tote pools nowadays on harness are too small to bet anything worthwhile Ranga! I only ask to be treated equally with all other punters, that is what kindness is all about! You are treated equally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Rangatira said: You are treated equally. How do you work that out Ranga? When you hear of bets that are taken by the TAB and then others are limited to netting as low as $15 FFS!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewFitzgerald Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Where did you get those figures from? They're public figures if you read the right information 3 hours ago, Rangatira said: Restrictions paying off ? Who knows, I'd out it more down to the staff they've hired in some important areas over the last 3 years 3 hours ago, Brodie said: As Chief has asked, where are the figures for fixed odds?? Matt Peden’s noteworthy bets do not seem that noteworthy to mention! $50 bets are worth mentioning!!!! If the fixed odds betting is increasing and profit yield increasing how about the NZ TAB allowing all punters on, Andrew???? Have a word to the Bookies or whoever you are getting these figures from and as Michael Guerin suggested, be fair to all Punters! we know they wont, as they like to treat punters differently and unfairly! You're not the only restricted punter in the country. You'll actually find the closer to race time the more you're able to get on for, regardless of restrictions on account. Have a look next time and you'll probably get your bet on before start time instead of on opening 3 hours ago, retarded driver said: How much did you help the tab with all your losing tips.you really want to compete with the whale(goldfish)to see who can lose the most.FACT. 😂 Put your real name up ya tosser, instead of hiding behind a fake name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Brodie said: How do you work that out Ranga? 12.3 (a) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 8 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: They're public figures if you read the right information But we haven't had any comprehensive figures published to the public in the last three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 9 hours ago, AndrewFitzgerald said: They're public figures if you read the right information Who knows, I'd out it more down to the staff they've hired in some important areas over the last 3 years You're not the only restricted punter in the country. You'll actually find the closer to race time the more you're able to get on for, regardless of restrictions on account. Have a look next time and you'll probably get your bet on before start time instead of on opening 😂 Put your real name up ya tosser, instead of hiding behind a fake name. Well aware that Brodie is not the only restricted punter in NZ! That is my point, the restrictions should be off and the TAB would turnover far more and profit would increase. Not everyone on restrictions would continue to win! Flawed business plan to have high yield on lower turnover as it has consequences just like the government meddling in stuff it has no expertise in!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robalan Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Where is the increase in stakes then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Robalan said: Where is the increase in stakes then? It is a myth, just like the vaccine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 10/08/2021 at 9:08 AM, Brodie said: I am well aware I am not the only restricted, I am in bat for all restricted punters! Your restricted punter batting average added to The Don's test batting average would be no more than 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 13/08/2021 at 11:16 PM, AndrewFitzgerald said: They're public figures if you read the right information Who knows, I'd out it more down to the staff they've hired in some important areas over the last 3 years You're not the only restricted punter in the country. You'll actually find the closer to race time the more you're able to get on for, regardless of restrictions on account. Have a look next time and you'll probably get your bet on before start time instead of on opening 😂 Put your real name up ya tosser, instead of hiding behind a fake name. Great post Andrew but the naysayers and moaners run this forum so no matter what you say they wont in most instances believe you even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Best you, like many before, stop wasting your time replying to the nutters. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 14/08/2021 at 8:12 AM, Chief Stipe said: But we haven't had any comprehensive figures published to the public in the last three years. There are but they dont reconcile with your view of things so you dismiss them. 3.1 mio extra from distributions ring a bell, 2.7 of which is going to increased stakes or are you calling HRNZ CEO a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 13/08/2021 at 7:42 PM, Brodie said: Michael Guerin suggested, be fair to all Punters! Mercenary Mick is only interested in his own welfare. Didn't he lose his job when new NZTAB was established? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: Mercenary Mick is only interested in his own welfare. Didn't he lose his job when new NZTAB was established? Is Mick a restricted punter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Is Mick a restricted punter? Judging by his picks - no way . Nowadays he does have to have money in his account or pay cash to bet though. But Brodie, yes . If only to keep him moaning on here with his hilarious posts!!😃 Edited August 15, 2021 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: But Brodie, yes . If only to keep him moaning on here with his hilarious posts!!😃 Hilarious W A Y _ _ Left an absolute beauty than won both the NZ Derby and Oaks. Edited August 15, 2021 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: There are but they dont reconcile with your view of things so you dismiss them. 3.1 mio extra from distributions ring a bell, 2.7 of which is going to increased stakes or are you calling HRNZ CEO a liar. As I said there have been NO comprehensive figures published in the last 3 years. Not sure why you are banging on about stakes increases when I was talking about published figures in relation to @AndrewFitzgerald's comment on Fixed Odds yields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Great post Andrew but the naysayers and moaners run this forum so no matter what you say they wont in most instances believe you even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Best you, like many before, stop wasting your time replying to the nutters. You still haven't answered the simple YES/NO question. Did Woodham secure more funding for HRNZ over and above what they were due on the pro-rata of revenue? I'm happy to be pointed in the right direction by your esteemed self to analyse the data but I'm not sure where it is. Can you assist? Just remember @JJ Flash the increased stakes are a budgeted promise - TAB NZ doesn't have all the money sitting in the bank for the coming year it needs to earn it first and then pay as they earn!!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) On 14/08/2021 at 9:11 AM, Brodie said: Well aware that Brodie is not the only restricted punter in NZ! You join an illustrious band of Peeps who number less than 100 with NZTAB. Wiki says their are around 170000 account holders so that tells us that the number of restricted punters is 0.000588% of account holders. Facts Brodie Facts Edited August 16, 2021 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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