Harness Racing has been promised a Stakes Increase for 2021/22 (contrary to what Flash informed us!)!

[the galah]

14 hours ago, With A Dream said:

Actually I agree with you there Brodie.  I know for a fact Hugo Chavez stole the election for Biden with his voting machines.  I know this because he admitted it to me when I was talking to him in Pak n Save Riccarton yesterday. (He was there with Elvis) 

And all the other fools on here believe he died 7 years ago.

Trump is a narcissistic con man who is delusional about the election. He has been scamming Americans who like you can't see through him and they have been responding to donation requests in the millions of dollars to get the result overturned.  Except Trump has not spent any money on that, he is just pocketing the money.

You are very naive if you can't see that

 

The most obvious question that trump haters should ask,is how are things going in the USA now,and how strong is its leadership viewed on the international stage. And does that make the world a less safe place. Not that it will effect us in nz. And why do joe biden's approval ratings continue to fall ,even with the trump hating media and big tech running cover. The usa got what they voted for,and now they are living with that reality.

And on the vaccine. I'm not anti vaccine, but is it not obvious that its being over sold. Even the usa cdc has recently released the data which shows after 6 months the protection the pfizer vaccine provides reduces to 84%,with protection against severe illness  being gradually eroded as time goes on. So thats after 6 months,whats it going to be after 8,10,12 months? Thats why the usa are now saying everyone should get their 3rd jab after 8 months. What are they going to say down the track?

[Michael]

17 hours ago, Brodie said:

No I was not wrong!

Trump was robbed by the fraud that took place and you would absolutely delusional if you dont believe there was fraud!

Do you really believe that the stupid old Git, is capable of making any sane decisions?

The poor old fellah has no idea what he is saying and should be looked after in a nursing home, that is how bad he is now!

Nothing is going well for the U.S. at the moment and the movement to socialism is going to backfire bigtime around the world!

You are an idiot

The post wasn't about whether Trump was robbed

Your earlier post stated that Trump was President of USA

He isn't

You are a restricted nutter

[Rangatira]

1 minute ago, Michael said:

You are a restricted nutter

Any idea which came first?

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Michael said:

You are a restricted nutter

Ease up Michael.  You throw your toys then come back and try and throw your weight around.  Any chance of both YOU and Brodie getting back on the topic of this thread?

Oh that's right you have secret squirrel information from a secret source who you trust.  Hell if that doesn't reek of conspiracy what does!!!

[JJ Flash]

54 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

FFS you really are a sensitive petal!  I express an opinion and you see it as an attack!!!  I responded to the remark about Brent Crude suggesting there were other spot markets more relevant to NZ.  How the hell is that an attack?

Im not but the ones who have left your site or who post infrequently are and who could blame them. 

Never mind you still have Brodie and the Plant😄

[Chief Stipe]

17 minutes ago, the galah said:

And on the vaccine. I'm not anti vaccine, but is it not obvious that its being over sold. Even the usa cdc has recently released the data which shows after 6 months the protection the pfizer vaccine provides reduces to 84%,with protection against severe illness  being gradually eroded as time goes on. So thats after 6 months,whats it going to be after 8,10,12 months? Thats why the usa are now saying everyone should get their 3rd jab after 8 months. What are they going to say down the track?

Although not on THIS Topic - research in the UK on a very large sample of about 700,000 has found that Pzifer is 82% and AstraZeneca 67%.  I think it is criminal to be vaccinating children who are NOT at risk with an experimental vaccine that has such low efficacy.  Amazing what propaganda and Government promoted fear does to intelligent thinking people.

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Im not but the ones who have left your site or who post infrequently are and who could blame them. 

Never mind you still have Brodie and the Plant😄

I don't care who comes and goes.  No favours on BOAY.  But if you can't accept robust debate and different opinions then wander over to the "Be Kind Site" or the Hypocrisy Site" and help with the mayoral campaign.

As for who has left and who has stayed and who visits you have absolutely NO idea.

[Michael]

Here we go again

Brodie calls me a clown and you are silent

I call him a restricted nutter and you leap into defence mode

One could swear you and Brodie are the same person

 

Edited August 19, 2021 by Michael

[Michael]

8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

 

Oh that's right you have secret squirrel information from a secret source who you trust.  Hell if that doesn't reek of conspiracy what does!!!

You are creating a gross exaggeration

I never said that I had a secret source

I never said that I had secret squirrel information

I merely said that I had been told that Harness had been beaten up in respect of the TAB Distributions, and that I accepted cwhat I had been told, as I couldn't be bothered to waste my time checking the veracity of what I had been told

That is a long way from secret sources and secret squirrel information

Why don't you spend all your time helping out our resident nutter

The other site has or had Thomas

We have Brodie

FFS, who is worse off?

It's a tight call

[Michael]

8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

No favours on BOAY.  But if you can't accept robust debate and different opinions then wander over to the "Be Kind Site" or the Hypocrisy Site" and help with the mayoral campaign.

 

What crap

Your posts always favour Brodie

 

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, Michael said:

Here we go again

Brodie calls me a clown and you are silent

I call him a restricted nutter and you leap into defence mode

One could swear you and Brodie are the same person

 

FFS Michael aka Mikie!!!!  LET IT GO!!!

Brodie has his opinions as do you but you are more prone to ad hominem attacks than him.  Lo and behold things escalate.  

I haven't a clue is Brodie is a "nutter" which by the way is a totally non PC term in today's world.  But I do know for a fact that the TAB has severely restricted his punting due to a long on history of them being taken to the cleaners.  I've had that confirmed from multiple sources.

[Chief Stipe]

1 minute ago, Michael said:

What crap

Your posts always favour Brodie

 

BULLSHIT @Michael!!!!

You can find any number of posts where Brodie and I have disagreed and vehemently at that.  So FAKE NEWS!!!!

[Chief Stipe]

6 minutes ago, Michael said:

I never said that I had a secret source

I never said that I had secret squirrel information

I merely said that I had been told that Harness had been beaten up in respect of the TAB Distributions, and that I accepted cwhat I had been told, as I couldn't be bothered to waste my time checking the veracity of what I had been told

That is a long way from secret sources and secret squirrel information

 

Then name the source.

[Rangatira]

6 minutes ago, Michael said:

It's a tight call

Neck and neck, Stride for stride.

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, Michael said:

Why don't you spend all your time helping out our resident nutter

The other site has or had Thomas

We have Brodie

FFS, who is worse off?

It's a tight call

We had @Thomass - still do in a way has in lurks and posts laughing emoji's frequently.  His nose is out of joint because he has been called out frequently.

As for Brodie - well we have Brodie, YOU, Forbury, Retarded Drive, JJ Flash, me,  shit need I go on?

[JJ Flash]

16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I don't care who comes and goes.

Your arrogance knows no boundaries. I'm pleased you posted that.

Happy was so right about you as were the others who have departed. Your no better than those you constantly criticize elsewhere. hypocrisy at its finest id say

[JJ Flash]

6 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Then name the source.

Why when he already said he was told in confidence. I know its not a concept you understand based on all your attacks to get info which is not openly available to you.

Mikies comments are very much "On the Money" Hounds and TB's did very well.

[Chief Stipe]

19 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Your arrogance knows no boundaries. I'm pleased you posted that.

Happy was so right about you as were the others who have departed. Your no better than those you constantly criticize elsewhere. hypocrisy at its finest id say

Let it go @JJ Flash - the only reason you post on BOAY is to bitch and try and bring it down.  That's obviously what turns you on.  But in terms of hypocrisy if you tried that on ANY other channel you would have been punted long ago.

[Chief Stipe]

16 minutes ago, JJ Flash said:

Why when he already said he was told in confidence. I know its not a concept you understand based on all your attacks to get info which is not openly available to you.

Mikies comments are very much "On the Money" Hounds and TB's did very well.

SO publish the accurate data - now that's a challenge to both of you.  Of course it doesn't hide the fact that that data and information was in the past made public and published for ALL to see.  Not those who THINK they are in some inner "circle of trust".  A lack of transparency and honesty is why the industry for all codes is in the mess it is!

Don't you get that?

Hell you only have to look at what look after your mates clubs using Pokie money has done for the industry!

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

research in the UK on a very large sample of about 700,000 has found that Pzifer is 82% and AstraZeneca 67%.

a worrying figure!. so 33% AZ vaccinated people are still wandering around even after the 2 jabs able to spread the virus anyway. ( whether showing symptoms or not)  So that is why UK are having another POSITIVE outbreak in the community with rising numbers (yet again Good Grief!!) and are 'getting worried' as winter approaches them , as they aren't sure exactly what will happen.  Last winter (beginning of this year) was bad for UK. 

[Chief Stipe]

1 minute ago, Gammalite said:

a worrying figure!. so 33% AZ vaccinated people are still wandering around even after the 2 jabs able to spread the virus anyway.

@Gammalite NONE of the vaccines stop ANYONE from being infectious.  But the fact is the vast majority of those that return a positive test and recover from Covid-19 either are asymptomatic or if not tested have no idea that they have been infected!!!!!

That's a fact.

In Sweden the average mortality age of those who died from Covid-19 was HIGHER than the average mortality age!!!!!  I.e. Covid-19 deaths DIDN'T change the average mortality age!!!!!!  Sure there were excess deaths for a period but since January this year there has been significant Negative Excess deaths i.e. less people died than would be expected on average.

Over the length of the pandemic the last 18 months has shown only a marginal increase in the number of people who have died BUT they were OVER the average mortality age!!!

[the galah]

23 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

a worrying figure!. so 33% AZ vaccinated people are still wandering around even after the 2 jabs able to spread the virus anyway. ( whether showing symptoms or not)  So that is why UK are having another POSITIVE outbreak in the community with rising numbers (yet again Good Grief!!) and are 'getting worried' as winter approaches them , as they aren't sure exactly what will happen.  Last winter (beginning of this year) was bad for UK. 

Thats the thing isn't it.The "experts" can't say with any certainty how it will all play out in time. Will it just become another bad flu type thing ,or will it become more virulent than it currently is. Its always evolving, so how can there be any certainty,vaccine or no vaccine?Everyone has their own individual health issues,so there can be no blanket right or wrong decision,its not that simple.And our leaders shouldn't be selling it that way.And why don't we hear more about theraputics?

One thing you can say,is the chinese scientists,with the help of funding from institutions run by people like usa"s dr faucci certainly did a fantastic job in creating a virus that could do immense damage to humans. "

Edited August 20, 2021 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, the galah said:

Thats the thing isn't it.The "experts" can't say with any certainty how it will all play out in time. Will it just become another bad flu type thing ,or will it get become more virulent than it currently is. Its always evolving, so how can there be any certainty,vaccine or no vaccine?Everyone has their own individual health issues,so there can be no blanket right or wrong decision,its not that simple.And our leaders shouldn't be selling it that way.And why don't we hear more about theraputics?

Arguably the Pzifer and Moderna vaccines are therapeutics.  They certainly aren't vaccines that we have become used to over the years.

I had a debate with a chap in his late seventies the other night - he has got the Covid-19 Fear Factor real bad.

The topic was the chances of dying from Covid-19 if you were below 30.  I said it was so low that there was no justification of taking the risk of getting the vaccine.  Got the usual argument that but it was the responsibility of each of us to protect others which I presume in this instance was him as he was the one that is most vulnerable.  I questioned why did it matter whether anyone else was vaccinated when he already was?  Oh but you are more likely to spread it or get ill and fill the hospital beds up (shouldn't hospital beds always be full?  Who likes an empty motel and their workers sitting around drinking coffee?).

Anyway the statistics started flying when I mentioned the risks known and UNKNOWN (they haven't been tested long enough!).  You have more chance of getting hit by a bus than dying from the vaccine!  Yes but I don't stand in the middle of the road and anyway there is only one bus every hour where I live and less at the weekend.  

You have more chance of getting hit by lightning - yes but I don't stand outside in a lightning storm!

You have more chance of winning Lotto than dying from the vaccine - OK well I'll buy a Lotto ticket and you go get your vaccine booster shot.....

[Gammalite]

21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I had a debate with a chap in his late seventies the other night - he has got the Covid-19 Fear Factor real bad.

The topic was the chances of dying from Covid-19 if you were below 30.  I said it was so low that there was no justification of taking the risk of getting the vaccine.  Got the usual argument that but it was the responsibility of each of us to protect others which I presume in this instance was him as he was the one that is most vulnerable.  I questioned why did it matter whether anyone else was vaccinated when he already was?  Oh but you are more likely to spread it or get ill and fill the hospital beds up (shouldn't hospital beds always be full?  Who likes an empty motel and their workers sitting around drinking coffee?

Yes the Fear factor of dying is at play for sure!!. people have always been dying though. that's the price of living in the end.

Take all the cars off the road then there's No chance of dying in a car crash is there.? But you can't do that.

Take all the people off the streets and No chance of catching virus and dying ? But you shouldn't be able to do that either. Mortality with covid seems same as any other year.? why lock up now ? and demand these half working vaccinations ? (like putting a Band-aid on Deep Cut isn't it ??? ) you just have to wait for your body to repair the underlying damage anyway. Whether you have a Cut or a Virus. 

[Rangatira]

2 hours ago, Michael said:

One could swear you and Brodie are the same person

This is most definitely not our beloved Chief.