Karrotsisback Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Thought anyone wanting to talk about personal stories they experienced or know of could come here, to try to keep the other threads about the racing topics. Lets see, the very first lockdown, just prior had been chatting with peeps had visited about whether or not they should fly to Invercargill to attend a wedding that weekend or cancel last minute. This was before any lockdowns had been introduced to NZ. It was a Wednesday or Thursday from memory. The person didn’t want to go. We discussed worst case scenerios verse attending. We agreed perhaps they should not go. They did not go. The bride was upset/disappointed by this decision so close to wedding date. Fews days later lockdown is announced. Few days after that NZ’s first cluster was announced a WEDDING AT BLUFF. What are the odds! Yes the same wedding where the grooms father passed. Sad times for them. ****** Another Covid Story Got sent an email to watch this video on anti vaccine etc from a friend who is an anti-vac who lives in States. Worried for me as at at time Im booked into get jab. Open minded I watch video. Asked them some questions after viewing. Then decided to proceed. Rewind to early last year when Covid just started around the world. And getting a positive was stigma attached. This same person had Covid symptoms but stuck it out for 2 weeks without getting a test. They thought they had Covid but can not prove it as never tested. Approx 4 months later this person got same symptoms but worse, so went got tested & YES Covid positive. Months later they then then send me the video as post above re anti-vax. Approx 2 months after this they have been tested positive to Covid again. Maybe this is what they call Long Covid - didn’t ask if it was the same strain or not. Fact they were tested positive for Covid twice. Most likely ALL 3 times were Covid BUT this can never be verified due to the fear they had at not wanting to be tested very first time. My response to the likely 3rd time Covid. Well no sympathy there. Will you get vaccine now. Their response. YES. **** Edited August 19, 2021 by Karrotsisback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrotsisback Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 No Covid lockdown stories posted, so on behalf of Larsen, Ill post 1 for him, as he had a somewhat nice article written on Stuff. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126137060/light-exercise-only-for-racehorses-under-level-4-lockdown Southland horseman Kirk Larsen says the extended lockdown shouldn’t bring too much disruption to most horses’ training programmes. He and other southern trainers have their fingers crossed that the South Island moves out of Covid-19 Alert Level 4 on Tuesday night and allows them to step up training programmes. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said on Friday that the lockdown would remain in place until 11.59pm on Tuesday. Under Alert Level 4, horses can only be lightly exercised, according to Harness Racing New Zealand and NZ Thoroughbred Racing guidelines. “The ones that are racing, they’re fit, so [in a week] they won’t lose too much [fitness],” Larsen, of Branxholme. “People have paid a lot of money to get their horses to this stage. “The biggest problem is tying up [muscular problem in horses] through not getting worked. Then that becomes an animal welfare problem.” However, being able to do light exercise helped with that issue and took the edge of horses who had been confined to loose boxes because of the bad weather in Southland recently. In some cases if horses were not in full training and confined to a loose box, their feed might need to be adjusted, Larsen said. All of the racehorses in his 12-strong team are building up for new campaigns. Meanwhile, Winton Harness Racing Club president Ian Goodman was philosophical about the club’s race day being cancelled on Thursday because of the lockdown. ”There’s not a lot you can do about it – that’s life,” he said. He hoped the funding that was allocated to the club for stake money that day would not be lost and could be used to beef up stakes at other WHRC meetings this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Karrotsisback said: He and other southern trainers have their fingers crossed that the South Island moves out of Covid-19 Alert Level 4 on Tuesday night and allows them to step up training programmes. One case in the South Island will stop the movement to Level 3. At Level 3 can they hold race meetings? Or is it just the ludicrous rule that you can't fast work is dropped? With regard to that rule it is nonsensical and I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows the rationale behind it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: One case in the South Island will stop the movement to Level 3. At Level 3 can they hold race meetings? Or is it just the ludicrous rule that you can't fast work is dropped? With regard to that rule it is nonsensical and I'd be interested to hear if anyone knows the rationale behind it. Why can’t horses be fast worked at level 4? They are in fresh air and the deadly disease doesnt transmit in the open despite clowns thinking it can. Are they worried that you can transmit it to the horse? This Delta strain is less deadly and has less no.s with it than the Alpha strain that killed! We now have a vaccine that is not a vaccine that everyone has to have? It contains a huge amount Graphene Oxide which is a poison a d yet we are told to inject it into our bodies? Seriously, they have no idea what the long term effects are going to be, are they serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrotsisback Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) You 2, goodness me. This is about personal Covid lockdown stories or Covid stories. Eg you spent a whole day in your PJs or you binge watched an entire season 1 of Peace & War in a day or maybe you know someone that got Covid. The NZ Police posted a funny one. It reads lets Play a Game, Go home, Stay Home, Tag your it. YES Chief. That was what I meant re out of lockdown South & mega meeting go ahead. Didnt word it well, was meaning out of full lockdown. They planned Mega meeting if South went to level 3! Considering Butchers who supply meat have to shut in level 4, (that really sux for them), HRNZ has negotiated well to get a pass for light work, animal care, grooming, handling for animal welfare reasons level 4. Not interested in politics. Edited August 21, 2021 by Karrotsisback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Karrotsisback said: YES Chief. That was what I meant re out of lockdown South & mega meeting go ahead. Didnt word it well, was meaning out of full lockdown. They planned Mega meeting if South went to level 3! Are you sure that can happen at Level 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Karrotsisback said: Considering Butchers who supply meat have to shut in level 4, (that really sux for them), HRNZ has negotiated well to get a pass for light work, animal care, grooming, handling for animal welfare reasons level 4. But it is nonsensical. Are our horses different to those in Australia? I realise our Harness horse's are faster than theirs but the Thoroughbreds aren't. So HRNZ haven't really negotiated anything have they? That said are the RIU hiding in hedges to see if a horse is hoppled and goes a quarter faster than 33 seconds? What is the definition of "light work"? Or are HRNZ and RIU relying on the 0800 snitch line? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Karrotsisback said: Not interested in politics. Except when it is the Chineses tapping your phone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Karrotsisback Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Except when it is the Chineses tapping your phone? Ha, fair call, altho have brought it up on only 2 threads, (which perhaps is 2, 2 many). CCP not Chinese. Like Chinese peeps. Wouldn’t really call it political either in sense its not about HK or Taiwan or South China Seas, Muslims treatment there etc. Just a personal experience. Ill take note of that as a hint yip won’t mention anything re 1st paragraph again. Will stick to posting about the horses 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrotsisback Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Are you sure that can happen at Level 3? Racing level 3 yes sure without crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Karrotsisback said: Racing level 3 yes sure without crowds. But of course if auckland stay in lockdown for a month or more,there is no way any auckland racehorses could be expected to race within a couple of weeks.The longer the level 4 where you can't fast work,the longer it would take to get them back up to racing fitness. My advice for any punters is if there is an extended lockdown in auckland,which seems likely,do not bet on any auckland races for at least a month.I found in the last lockdown that there was no consistency to the form for about 2 months after it resumed. It was obvious that some trainers could get their horses to race well early after racing resumed,but to do that the lack of proper preparation resulted in a clear drop off in form after a couple of runs. The principles of giving a horse a proper preparation so as to retain form long term still apply,lockdown or no lockdown. So the longer a lockdown at level 4 where fast work can't be done,the longer punters should stop punting once racing resumes.Thats the wise thing to do. Edited August 21, 2021 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Karrotsisback said: Racing level 3 yes sure without crowds. Racing without crowds, a fairly common occurence now anyway😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes Yes No Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I think you’ll find we can only race at level 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrotsisback Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Yes Yes No said: I think you’ll find we can only race at level 2 Hi yes, yes, no. Have read 2 articles on HRNZ site in past few days that clearly state racing can go ahead but only from level 3 or less. These articles are 17 Mega meeting Addington article & also the Waiting Game article. That is my source. Unhinged perhaps in the know. Feel free to come in. HRNZ site right or wrong in stating racing can go ahead at level 3 or less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes Yes No Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hope your right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, the galah said: But of course if auckland stay in lockdown for a month or more,there is no way any auckland racehorses could be expected to race within a couple of weeks.The longer the level 4 where you can't fast work,the longer it would take to get them back up to racing fitness. My advice for any punters is if there is an extended lockdown in auckland,which seems likely,do not bet on any auckland races for at least a month.I found in the last lockdown that there was no consistency to the form for about 2 months after it resumed. It was obvious that some trainers could get their horses to race well early after racing resumed,but to do that the lack of proper preparation resulted in a clear drop off in form after a couple of runs. The principles of giving a horse a proper preparation so as to retain form long term still apply,lockdown or no lockdown. So the longer a lockdown at level 4 where fast work can't be done,the longer punters should stop punting once racing resumes.Thats the wise thing to do. Maybe someone has stated this fact but I think and I might be wrong but fast work is frowned on because if you have a accident then because the hospitals are so full up that they can't or may not be able to come to your aid, or something like that, I may be wrong on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Brodie said: It contains a huge amount Graphene Oxide which is a poison a d yet we are told to inject it into our bodies? Pretty sure this is also a major component of my tennis racquet. Edited August 22, 2021 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Maybe someone has stated this fact but I think and I might be wrong but fast work is frowned on because if you have a accident then because the hospitals are so full up that they can't or may not be able to come to your aid, or something like that, I may be wrong on that. Yes same applies to surfers and social tennis players still using Dunlop Maxply Racquets. Edited August 22, 2021 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Maybe someone has stated this fact but I think and I might be wrong but fast work is frowned on because if you have a accident then because the hospitals are so full up that they can't or may not be able to come to your aid, or something like that, I may be wrong on that. Yes i read that last lockdown,but of course whats the logic for it currently when hospitals aren't dealing with covid cases.It makes no sense. I think industry leaders seem to have dropped the ball over this issue.Whats happening was predictable .It appears australian racing authorities plan better than nz do. Also how can auckland trainers justify full training fees when they aren't able to fast work even on a reduced basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrotsisback Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) On top of what HRNZ site have written, 20 Aug 2020 Alex P holds a meeting in Level 3. Source covid timeline from TVNZ news. (12 Aug 2020 Auckland region went Into level 3 setting, 30 August Auckland moves to alert level 2). Edited August 22, 2021 by Karrotsisback 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 hours ago, the galah said: Yes i read that last lockdown,but of course whats the logic for it currently when hospitals aren't dealing with covid cases.It makes no sense. Not much of it makes any sense . Just have to give up worrying about it at some stage. Overnight in UK they had massive crowds at the EPL football matches as it re-starts (no crowds last year) even though there is 1/2 million positive cases in UK this month. USA has had 2,000,000 +ve cases this month, and I think the Government is keeping an eye on state FLORIDA with a similar climate and population as Australia. They are currently in the huge 3rd Wave of covid , as on Graph. At all the Florida hospitals they started off with One covid Wing , but now generally have 4 wings of every hospital dedicated just for the treatment of Covid patients. might as well use them I guess. They currently get more than 30,000 more positives per day and have 100,000 hospitilized and 20,000 Intensive care patients. I guess Australia and NZ are trying to avoid these scenes , but you can't just keep locking down a State or country everytime a person with flu turns up. ? can you? would never end. Vaccinate from one strain and a few months later a different strain turns up . mass vaccinate again ? You're right .... it all makes no sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) Just read an article from Oz that says there are no flu deaths this year and normally there is over 1000 deaths there from infuenza. They are now worried next year that there might be thousands kf deaths from the normal influenza!!!!! FFS can you really believe this Bull Shit? Australasia people in huge numbers have lost their marbles!!! This vaccine that is not a vaccine is going to go down in history as one BIG EFF UP, but that is ok just believe the crap from the so called medical experts! Should really be queueing up for hours to get the FREE shot of Graphene Oxide poison into me! Nah, leave it to all the other sheep!! Got to get the vaccine no.s up, record day yesterday yay!! Edited August 22, 2021 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrotsisback Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Got this from twitter. Someone shared their Covid lockdown story 😄😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Can race at level 3, but only essential staff on course - no owners allowed. At level 2 owners are allowed back, but not punters etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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