Reefton Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Which will be reported as a G3. You've gt a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to Pitty haven't you? You want to get over that 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I doubt they will have gone to the effort of using the penetrometer that often. Too much work involved. You ever run a raceday Son? Because you want to have a go and see how easy it is instead of sniping from the sidelines(I've been there both as a Raceday Secretary and as a President). Jeff McLaughlin will be doing the required penetrometers I am sure and accurately at that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) A little Monday entertainment for those who think SI racing is stuffed https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx Watch the video With this standard of entertainment how could it possibly go wrong? watch(when you can because it isn't in the picture much) the grey horse out the back I know we have seen and commented on it before but after nearly five years it is worth another look Edited December 19, 2021 by Reefton 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Reefton said: You've gt a bit of an inferiority complex when it comes to Pitty haven't you? You want to get over that I didn't even mention Pitty I was just responding to @curious's post. Are you obsessed with defending @Pitman even when he isn't mentioned? My reply was in reference to the fact that often a track is officially rated on raceday as a D4 or G3 and then proceeds to race much faster from Race 1. This is a problem throughout the country not just Riccarton. 1 hour ago, Reefton said: You ever run a raceday Son? Because you want to have a go and see how easy it is instead of sniping from the sidelines(I've been there both as a Raceday Secretary and as a President). Jeff McLaughlin will be doing the required penetrometers I am sure and accurately at that. What does having "run a raceday" got to do with commenting on the track ratings? Once again I was responding to @curious's post regarding the deployment of "that device" which I assumed was an oblique reference to the penetrometer. Noting of course that a penetrometer doesn't officially have to be used as frequently as it appears to have been used at Ashburton. Hell they can gallop a horse over it and take the opinion of the Jockey! The improvement in track conditions is quite remarkable given the amount of rain that fell - now that either indicates a problem with the measurement, the track condition or something else. As for Jeff McLaughlin - is he the track manager and trained in using the penetrometer? 17 hours ago, curious said: That device must be deployed. H11 Friday, H10 yesterday, Slow7 this morning, Dead 6 this afternoon? Oh and before you get off your high rocking horse again @Reefton in response to @curious's post above I actually proffered a reason for the rapid improvement i.e. the presence of N to NW winds and high temperatures which as I said would "dry the lips off a camel"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 17 hours ago, curious said: That device must be deployed. H11 Friday, H10 yesterday, Slow7 this morning, Dead 6 this afternoon? Dead 5 now. For the record here is the progression of readings: Monday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Dead 5 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 6.29am Monday 20 December Sunday Afternoon Weather: Fine Track: Dead 6 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 2.21pm Sunday 19 December Sunday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Slow 7 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 8.00am Sunday 19 December Saturday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Heavy 10 Rail: Out 2m Weather and Track updated at 8.57am Saturday 18 December Friday Morning Weather: Drizzling Track: Heavy 11 Rail: Out 2m | 76mm Rain Past 48 Hours Weather and Track updated at 9.40am Friday 17 December Wednesday Morning Weather: Drizzling Track: Dead 6 Rail: Out 2m | 3mm Rain Overnight Weather and Track updated at 6.37am Wednesday 15 December Withdrawal Morning Weather: Cloudy Track: Dead 5 Rail: Out 2m | Drying Weather and Track updated at 7.41am Tuesday 14 December Nomination Afternoon Weather: Fine Track: Dead 6 Rail: Out 2m | Drying Weather and Track updated at 4.45pm Monday 13 December Nomination Morning Weather: Fine Track: Slow 7 | 12mm Rain Over Werekend Rail: Out 2m | 50mm Rain Last 7 Days Weather and Track updated at 8.10am Monday 13 December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, Reefton said: A little Monday entertainment for those who think SI racing is stuffed https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx Watch the video With this standard of entertainment how could it possibly go wrong? watch(when you can because it isn't in the picture much) the grey horse out the back I know we have seen and commented on it before but after nearly five years it is worth another look Here's the video you refer to @Reefton - you wouldn't be "sniping from the sidelines would you"? 20170111HOKI05_BB.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 17 hours ago, curious said: That device must be deployed. H11 Friday, H10 yesterday, Slow7 this morning, Dead 6 this afternoon? Dead5 this morning. My reference to a device was the hypothetical suction device that I'd referred to earlier. Coming back a point or 2 a day in this weather is quite believable. However the met service reported 21mm on Friday and 14mm on Saturday for Ashburton during which time the track came back from a H11 to a Slow7 by Sunday morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, curious said: Dead5 this morning. My reference to a device was the hypothetical suction device that I'd referred to earlier. Coming back a point or 2 a day in this weather is quite believable. However the met service reported 21mm on Friday and 14mm on Saturday for Ashburton during which time the track came back from a H11 to a Slow7 by Sunday morning? Fair points but we don't know how the ratings were measured. Is there any enforced standard that says ALL readings must have been measured with a penetrometer or going stick (are they officially used in NZ?)? For that matter isn't it a gap in the reporting that it isn't stated what method was used to determine the readings? I can understand as a trainer why you would be interested in the improvement in track conditions over the week however from a punter perspective it doesn't matter until within 24 hours of racing commencing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Reefton said: A little Monday entertainment for those who think SI racing is stuffed https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx Watch the video With this standard of entertainment how could it possibly go wrong? watch(when you can because it isn't in the picture much) the grey horse out the back I know we have seen and commented on it before but after nearly five years it is worth another look That's classic viewing, probably never ever happen again, the pilot certainly never gave up and goes to show what tenacity means........last 600 in 51, thats probably a track record ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Here's the video you refer to @Reefton - you wouldn't be "sniping from the sidelines would you"? 20170111HOKI05_BB.mp4 Went the short way after drawing outside barrier whilst most of the other John Wayne's (Moseley included) lost their compasses and cornered like drunken sailors. Traveling approx two circuits of a turning 1200m track like Hokitika at 10 to 20 horse widths from the inside rail is gross incompetence and yet another example of why jockey's shouldn't collectively command the same riding fees! Where can one view the remaining races on that day please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, billy connolly said: Where can one view the remaining races on that day please? They're all here: https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Oh dear, the John Wayne on number 4 in race 4 didn't' know the difference between 800 metres and 2000 metres, hope he gave the riding back ! https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/4/Race-Detail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Reefton said: A little Monday entertainment for those who think SI racing is stuffed https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx Watch the video With this standard of entertainment how could it possibly go wrong? watch(when you can because it isn't in the picture much) the grey horse out the back I know we have seen and commented on it before but after nearly five years it is worth another look 44s on the tote, I wonder what you would have got if you could bet in the running? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 18 hours ago, curious said: Dead5 this morning. My reference to a device was the hypothetical suction device that I'd referred to earlier. Coming back a point or 2 a day in this weather is quite believable. However the met service reported 21mm on Friday and 14mm on Saturday for Ashburton during which time the track came back from a H11 to a Slow7 by Sunday morning? Yeah. My guess is that it was never H 11. Probably a fair bit of surface water, as well as pissing with rain, which would have helped to make the decision to defer. Can only hope that there is enough cushion still. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 20/12/2021 at 10:35 AM, Reefton said: A little Monday entertainment for those who think SI racing is stuffed https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/45390/5/Race-Detail.aspx Watch the video With this standard of entertainment how could it possibly go wrong? watch(when you can because it isn't in the picture much) the grey horse out the back I know we have seen and commented on it before but after nearly five years it is worth another look Backed that horse at hokitika, classic race to watch, have it on my sky, don fuge always got a winner on the coast, I think he won a grand national hurdle many years back, any one know the horses name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Three years later what has changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Three years later what has changed? No Hokitika anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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