Joe Bloggs Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, curious said: Jmo JB but he relaxed beautifully. There was no pace and he had to go when he did. That's what good judges of pace do. There was nowhere else but 3 wide and he was a nostril short of good enough to do it that way. And the winning rider had to cop a charge of overuse of the stick to beat him even then. Top ride in my book. You're a bloody legend, where were you when I was riding? You're a trainers dream, ours was slaughtered today, 4th, If I could reach through the tele I would have throttled her.......anyway, as long as yours pulls up well and travels home good, no harm done......now for Reefton's.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 56 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Bugger @Reefton was a bit light on the irrigation.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, curious said: Jmo JB but he relaxed beautifully. There was no pace and he had to go when he did. That's what good judges of pace do. There was nowhere else but 3 wide and he was a nostril short of good enough to do it that way. And the winning rider had to cop a charge of overuse of the stick to beat him even then. Top ride in my book. I thought CWJ rode it very well. I haven't seen him that low down on a horse for awhile and he certainly put in 110% effort. Of course the issue when going forward is that someone is likely to push out under you (happens a lot in 2000m races at Ellerslie). That said I'm not sure the Jockey that did push him out took the right option for their horse. But I guess it is easy from our rocking chairs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, curious said: Jmo JB but he relaxed beautifully. There was no pace and he had to go when he did. That's what good judges of pace do. There was nowhere else but 3 wide and he was a nostril short of good enough to do it that way. And the winning rider had to cop a charge of overuse of the stick to beat him even then. Top ride in my book. I thought CWJ rode it very well. I haven't seen him that low down on a horse for awhile and he certainly put in 110% effort. Of course the issue when going forward is that someone is likely to push out under you (happens a lot in 2000m races at Ellerslie). That said I'm not sure the Jockey that did push him out took the right option for their horse. But I guess it is easy from our rocking chairs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Back to Reefton. Who determined the late start? Wouldn't it have been better to start an hour or more earlier - avoid the heat and not clash later in the day with a couple of Ozzie meetings? Or does slotting in later with those OZ meetings attract more Ozzie punters? It was effing hot when I got there at 9 o'clock so doubt an early start would have been terribly effective. We had a great day thank you all 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Was a super day - heat notwithstanding. Caught up with so many old friends, among them former very good trainer Helen Preston, along with a happy and enthusiastic crowd. I hear the next year's days for the three Coast clubs are Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Westland again misses out, although I'm told they applied for a day. The prospect of these wonderful days getting transferred to the AWT is alarming. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Reefton said: It was effing hot when I got there at 9 o'clock so doubt an early start would have been terribly effective. We had a great day thank you all Racing looked good and track played fair for all, everyone got around in one piece, can ask for much more, how was your turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bid Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Freda said: The prospect of these wonderful days getting transferred to the AWT is alarming. That will definitely be the final nail in the coffin. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Freda said: Was a super day - heat notwithstanding. Caught up with so many old friends, among them former very good trainer Helen Preston, along with a happy and enthusiastic crowd. I hear the next year's days for the three Coast clubs are Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Westland again misses out, although I'm told they applied for a day. The prospect of these wonderful days getting transferred to the AWT is alarming. More than alarming downright scandalous. Imagine summer racing on AWT ... 🤮 🤮 🤮 Mind you this lot are silly enough to do it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Reefton said: It was effing hot when I got there at 9 o'clock so doubt an early start would have been terribly effective. We had a great day thank you all All good. Racing Victoria is quick to alter race day times and dates if forecast temperatures are 30 degrees plus. I was wondering what the policy was in NZ. Good to see you had a great day. Still a place in NZ Racing for a circuit like the West Coast. With a bit more programming/planning it could be incorporated to include a number of other country tracks in the South Island. Now wouldn't that be novel..... You could organise your training and racing programme and avoid Riccarton altogether unless you happened upon a Guineas type horse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 16 hours ago, curious said: Jmo JB but he relaxed beautifully. There was no pace and he had to go when he did. That's what good judges of pace do. There was nowhere else but 3 wide and he was a nostril short of good enough to do it that way. And the winning rider had to cop a charge of overuse of the stick to beat him even then. Top ride in my book. CWJ copped a fine for the same offence so I guess that evens things out! A Balloo (LINEDANCEKING) - Admitted a charge of using the whip in two consecutive strides on two occasions on his mount inside the final 100 metres. After considering submissions the Adjudicative Committee imposed a fine of $750. C Johnson (LIGHT UP) - Admitted a charge of using the whip in two consecutive strides on his mount inside the final 100 metres. After considering submissions the Adjudicative Committee imposed a fine of $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: CWJ copped a fine for the same offence so I guess that evens things out! A Balloo (LINEDANCEKING) - Admitted a charge of using the whip in two consecutive strides on two occasions on his mount inside the final 100 metres. After considering submissions the Adjudicative Committee imposed a fine of $750. C Johnson (LIGHT UP) - Admitted a charge of using the whip in two consecutive strides on his mount inside the final 100 metres. After considering submissions the Adjudicative Committee imposed a fine of $500. Yeahh spotted that later! Was working on hearsay when I first reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Considering the numbers that have raced so far and looking at Kumara on Saturday and the fact they had to split 2 races would suggest there was an argument to be made that this circuit should be extended to another of couple of days next week at least . It's not like there is a lot happening elsewhere in the SI . I love the fact that the tracks are so tight the jocks can't really ride pretty races , so what would usually be considered average rides can't be bagged because they are just as likely to get the result . Have noticed some of the less experienced jocks who maybe haven't ridden these tight circuits much seem at a loss as to quite what to do in some races . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: All good. Racing Victoria is quick to alter race day times and dates if forecast temperatures are 30 degrees plus. I was wondering what the policy was in NZ. Good to see you had a great day. Still a place in NZ Racing for a circuit like the West Coast. With a bit more programming/planning it could be incorporated to include a number of other country tracks in the South Island. Now wouldn't that be novel..... You could organise your training and racing programme and avoid Riccarton altogether unless you happened upon a Guineas type horse! I guess it(temperature extremes) probably happens more often in Victoria. At the end of the day I suspect one or two horses might have felt the effects and there were some Jockeys looking quite distressed post races but to their credit they were not complaining. Nice to be able to provide them and the starting gates staff with plenty of water and a beer afterwards(as we should do of course - can't do without those guys) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Shad said: Racing looked good and track played fair for all, everyone got around in one piece, can ask for much more, how was your turnover. Beautiful West Coast day but poor crowd to that of yesteryear, I was refused entry (not vaccinated) so spent day punting from a main street local. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, nomates said: Considering the numbers that have raced so far and looking at Kumara on Saturday and the fact they had to split 2 races would suggest there was an argument to be made that this circuit should be extended to another of couple of days next week at least . It's not like there is a lot happening elsewhere in the SI . I love the fact that the tracks are so tight the jocks can't really ride pretty races , so what would usually be considered average rides can't be bagged because they are just as likely to get the result . Have noticed some of the less experienced jocks who maybe haven't ridden these tight circuits much seem at a loss as to quite what to do in some races . Reefton always had Mouse McCann take first timer apprentices around the track pre races to talk to them about it and that spread to other Coast tracks. Discontinued now as David Walsh deals with that stuff(and I heard him doing so). There were more seniors and experienced apprentices there yesterday than there has been at times in the past so I thought the standard of racing was pretty good(but wasn't really watching closely so you guys might have seen stuff I didn't) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, billy connolly said: Beautiful West Coast day but poor crowd to that of yesteryear, I was refused entry (not vaccinated) so spent day punting from a main street local. Don't know about that although I did(at first glance) think the crowd was light. The thing was they were under tents and gazebos, trees and in the stand and bar. It was 30 bloody degrees! The only nutter running up and down was me(apart from trainers etc etc). The gate takings, racebook sales and puntere club sales indicated we had a bloody good crowd(though as the punter concerned with the Punters Club I managed to lose every last cent of the dosh) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Ahh, bloody accountants, can't add up, and can't punt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Ahh, bloody accountants, can't add up, and can't punt. Dead right about that. My mistake was describing myself as a legend to our office staff after the first one I backed won. I immediately thought 'You dumb prick that will hex you' and sure enough I could not even get close in the next five races. A good form analyst I am not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Ahh, see the secret is,......once you backed the first winner you should have feigned injury and retired unbeaten! Then you'd still be the office legend instead of ''that dumb prick''...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, billy connolly said: Beautiful West Coast day but poor crowd to that of yesteryear, I was refused entry (not vaccinated) so spent day punting from a main street local. That's a bugger, long way to travel to be turned away, mind you you do see much more on TV, and get a better idea where your money goes, you've would have been around that track many times over the years, I bet, I enjoy the TV coverage everything looked great, but hard to judge crowd numbers, turnover the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Shad said: That's a bugger, long way to travel to be turned away, mind you you do see much more on TV, and get a better idea where your money goes, you've would have been around that track many times over the years, I bet, I enjoy the TV coverage everything looked great, but hard to judge crowd numbers, turnover the key. Long way to travel to be turned away????? It is bloody NZTR policy that we cannot let unvaxxed in man! Not our call and bear in mind that one of the Souths most prominent riders and two of their best trainers are not allowed on a racecourse because of their vaccination status. One of our own life members could not attend becuase he is not fully vaxxed. I am not particularly pro vaxx - some of my good mates are either unvaxxed or totally anti vaxx. But we have rules in place and continue to race we must abide by them. It is a bloody long way from the stupidest NZTR decree I have ever heard and everyone knows the NZTR rules. Do not expect to come to the Coast and have Covid not being taken seriously. And at least two of the ladies on the gate were my committee people doing the job for nothing and copping a bloody lot of grief from unhappy members of the public. Another example of why we can survive with the minimal income we get - because we work our arses off to get ready for our day in the sun. Bernard take note - we do NOT owe our existence to the NZ racing industry we owe our existence to our own bloody sweat (and God knows there was plenty of sweat there yesterday) 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 5/01/2022 at 5:52 PM, Chief Stipe said: @Reefton was a bit light on the irrigation.... Like hell I was light on irrigation. I plastered absolute gallons of the stuff on the track in the period four days before until 30 hours before the first race. Couple of differences though (1) the irrigation system we use is accurate and consistent across the track and (2)it was supervised and planned to achieve a D4 track race morning which it did despite the extreme(comparatively)temperatures in the four days before raceday and the badly damaged state of the surface after the frotting meeting. When I say planned of course it was planned on the run given the time frames. I know I am lucky to have Peter O'Malley on my team and we only do it once a year but it is called management. Let the likes of P O'Malley loose on the 'problem' tracks in NZ and see what happens. And another example of how the RJC survives on a shoestring - the President travelled 100 miles a time three times - including at 6am on New Year's morning - to do penetrometer readings for the friggiing meeting(because in the President's opinion if you want the job done right do the bastard yourself and you know it is done). Don't tell me the RJC owes it's existence to the NZ racing industry. The NZ effing racing industry owes it's existence to the likes of the RJC. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Reefton said: Like hell I was light on irrigation. Just thought your filly would have preferred a bit more give in the ground... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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