With A Dream Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Brodie said: I think you better confirm to all of us that the Bruce Hutton you are talking about is not the harness trainer Bruce Hutton? True Brodie. The Bruce Hutton I refer to is not the Bruce Hutton that is currently licensed. The Bruce Hutton I refer to passed away in 2013 and was a detective involved in the Crews murder case. A royal commission into the conviction of Arthur Allan Thomas found that a shell case found at the scene of the murder which helped convict Mr Thomas had been planted. The police eventually accepted the findings the shell case was a plant but never admitted they had placed it at the scene, thought they didn't deny it either. The late detective Bruce Hutton after his retirement did become involved in horse racing, breeding and I think training horses. I think I read somewhere that it was harness racing he was involved with but not certain on this. Just to be clear once again, not the Mr Hutton currently licensed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, With A Dream said: True Brodie. The Bruce Hutton I refer to is not the Bruce Hutton that is currently licensed. The Bruce Hutton I refer to passed away in 2013 and was a detective involved in the Crews murder case. A royal commission into the conviction of Arthur Allan Thomas found that a shell case found at the scene of the murder which helped convict Mr Thomas had been planted. The police eventually accepted the findings the shell case was a plant but never admitted they had placed it at the scene, thought they didn't deny it either. The late detective Bruce Hutton after his retirement did become involved in horse racing, breeding and I think training horses. I think I read somewhere that it was harness racing he was involved with but not certain on this. Just to be clear once again, not the Mr Hutton currently licensed. Wasn't a certain Mr McKenzie the junior in that case. Later use do Northern Racing for the Gallops ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 9/06/2022 at 1:40 AM, the galah said: My own personal experience from about 25 years ago of having a horse i trained,who was a red hot favorite, pulled by a high profile,stoned driver was an experience i won't forget. who was the driver? horses name was? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: who was the driver? horses name was? Well you must be able to guess that one if you've been around harness racing. I'm not going to give a name.The previous race he drove another hot favorite,which took no part. Just before i went to give him the colours the owner of that horse went into the stall with the horse,its trainer and the driver and asked what happened. All he got was laughter while he repeared his question a couple of times. He walked back out,shaking his at and said to me its a waste of time if you want to get any sense out of them.It was at a time it was well known that drivers wives had a syndicate that struck some pick 6"s. Thats why i continue to say harness racing today is more honest than its ever been.And part of the reason is enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, the galah said: Well you must be able to guess that one if you've been around harness racing. I'm not going to give a name.The previous race he drove another hot favorite,which took no part. Just before i went to give him the colours the owner of that horse went into the stall with the horse,its trainer and the driver and asked what happened. All he got was laughter while he repeared his question a couple of times. He walked back out,shaking his at and said to me its a waste of time if you want to get any sense out of them.It was at a time it was well known that drivers wives had a syndicate that struck some pick 6"s. Thats why i continue to say harness racing today is more honest than its ever been.And part of the reason is enforcement. Bollocks. Same old harness racing rumour mongering. How many Pick 6's did these WAGS win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Bollocks. Same old harness racing rumour mongering. How many Pick 6's did these WAGS win? agreed was pick 6 around 25years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 49 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: agreed was pick 6 around 25years ago How many did the WAGS win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: How many did the WAGS win? Who knows. i also know of one small time trainer who was questioned as to what,if anything he knew,months after his horse had won. He knew nothing and was surprised he was part of an investigation.I just had a look at the video,and the 2nd horse should have won had its driver been serious about asking it for an effort in the straight. That was 20 years ago. Like i have said,that was then and prior,now's different. But the point is you need proper and adequate enforcement to discourage even the thought of such activity. Where i think there is disagreement ,depending on what side of the argument you support,is what the definition of proper and adequate enforcement is,and who is the appropriate body to take such action. Edited June 13, 2022 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 hours ago, the galah said: Who knows. i also know of one small time trainer who was questioned as to what,if anything he knew,months after his horse had won. He knew nothing and was surprised he was part of an investigation.I just had a look at the video,and the 2nd horse should have won had its driver been serious about asking it for an effort in the straight. That was 20 years ago. Like i have said,that was then and prior,now's different. But the point is you need proper and adequate enforcement to discourage even the thought of such activity. Where i think there is disagreement ,depending on what side of the argument you support,is what the definition of proper and adequate enforcement is,and who is the appropriate body to take such action. earlier post you were saying 25years ago now your saying 20years ago . sound like porkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: earlier post you were saying 25years ago now your saying 20years ago . sound like porkies So you didn't get that i was talking about 2 different events?Obviously not. We are going in a bit of a circle again around this topic. Those who see things as you do sort of wear down those expressing opposing views to the point you create an environment where the only ones happy to engage in discussion are those who agree with you. So it then all becomes an echo chamber,which then leads your supporters to think they are right and in the majority, which leads to them telling those they support that they are always in the right and are being persecuted. Then that in reality leads to extreme pressure being placed on those who have to deal with authorities as they deal with a sense of injustice,real or not,and understandably that leads to some struggling to cope with that pressure. All the while you make out you've got their backs,but its them under the pump. When real injustice is there,and it is sometimes,because you've helped create the them and us environment ,does it limit the chances either side will compromise or back down a little even if they recognise things aren't what they say or what they thought they were? The question i think you should give some thought is,no matter how well intentioned you are,have you helped or hindered those who you support? And do you sometimes deny things even if you think they are true? Also ask yourself,which of us frustrates the other more when we get into topics like this? Who knows.I think both of us are pretty thick skinned anyway. Edited June 13, 2022 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 BOAY gives everyone an opportunity to express their point of view, whether you agree with it is not the point. Chief runs a very good site which we should all be appreciative of. It is great that we have differing opinions or it would be very boring like that other site, that banned their most intelligent posters!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 13/06/2022 at 10:55 AM, Chief Stipe said: How many did the WAGS win? I think you will know he's telling porkies Again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Brodie said: BOAY gives everyone an opportunity to express their point of view, whether you agree with it is not the point. Chief runs a very good site which we should all be appreciative of. It is great that we have differing opinions or it would be very boring like that other site, that banned their most intelligent posters!!!! brodie and long owner on the money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 10:30 PM, Brodie said: BOAY gives everyone an opportunity to express their point of view, whether you agree with it is not the point. Chief runs a very good site which we should all be appreciative of. It is great that we have differing opinions or it would be very boring like that other site, that banned their most intelligent posters!!!! I’m not banned from the other site Brodie You’re mistaken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Michael said: I’m not banned from the other site Brodie You’re mistaken I guess you missed the point about intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: I guess you missed the point about intelligence. I guess you are a wanker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Michael said: I guess you are a wanker? So you don't know everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: So you don't know everything? I don’t know you at all hence I just guessed, but no doubt I’m right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Michael said: I don’t know you at all hence I just guessed, but no doubt I’m right You're right less often than @Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: You're right less often than @Brodie But unfortunately Brodie’s lunacy and irrational postings overshadow the odd time he’s correct Its like lots and lots of monkeys, give them all typewriters, and after a while one of them will write a novel However you keep riding to his rescue Chief and sucking up to him You’re not really Brodie yourself are you? Oh no, you’re Noodlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Michael said: But unfortunately Brodie’s lunacy and irrational postings overshadow the odd time he’s correct Its like lots and lots of monkeys, give them all typewriters, and after a while one of them will write a novel However you keep riding to his rescue Chief and sucking up to him You’re not really Brodie yourself are you? Oh no, you’re Noodlum Amazing how many times you are actually wrong. @Michael you are becoming nothing more than an irrelevant troll. Cut the bitterness. Yes I have a lot of time for @Brodie not that i know him that well other than through his posting on BOAY. Where you and he differ is Brodie will start topics of interest and contribute his opinions even if some are repetitive. Whereas you on the other hand are unhealthily fixated on attacking one poster. Do you no longer have anything else to contribute? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, Michael said: Oh no, you’re Noodlum must be fine looking stallion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Amazing how many times you are actually wrong. @Michael you are becoming nothing more than an irrelevant troll. Cut the bitterness. Yes I have a lot of time for @Brodie not that i know him that well other than through his posting on BOAY. Where you and he differ is Brodie will start topics of interest and contribute his opinions even if some are repetitive. Whereas you on the other hand are unhealthily fixated on attacking one poster. Do you no longer have anything else to What have I been wrong about in, say, the last 3 months Noodlum? At least I could figure out why the All Star’s 2yos weren’t in a 4y and older maiden Unlike you I have met Brodie and away from a laptop he’s quite normal. Edited June 15, 2022 by Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhinged Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Michael said: What have I been wrong about in, say, the last 3 months Noodlum? At least I could figure out why the All Star’s 2yos weren’t in a 4y and older maiden Unlike you I have met Brodie and away from a laptop he’s quite normal. Jury is out on that one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Amazing how many times you are actually wrong. @Michael you are becoming nothing more than an irrelevant troll. Cut the bitterness. Yes I have a lot of time for @Brodie not that i know him that well other than through his posting on BOAY. Where you and he differ is Brodie will start topics of interest and contribute his opinions even if some are repetitive. Whereas you on the other hand are unhealthily fixated on attacking one poster. Do you no longer have anything else to contribute? Chief, I dont read his postings as I blocked him! Think Michael gets very bored as he probably thinks he isnt allowed to leave his home still! You are correct, he needs to post something for discussion! Bullies like Michael dont worry me too much, I just pity him!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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