Waverley Races 28 July 2022 - Abandoned

[Joe Bloggs]

59 minutes ago, Freda said:

They've sat on their hands for years and watched jumping decline, with no will to do anything particularly helpful.   And I don't think that even now there is realisation that the National, in the form it was, is history.

While C's idea makes sense - if there were any jumpers - there is no point if they all have to come from the North Island.

 

The've been on the blower to South Australia, some comparison that, like minds......look at the once mighty Oakbank Carnival, gone from iconic to ironic, it's so demoralising to see the crowds disintegrate. They used to travel up from Adelaide in the tens of thousands, all those great Kiwi Jumpers against the best Aussies, and now, nada, zilch, zero, and the place is a ghost town while the dolts at Morphetville HQ pick up gazillionaire salaries, just like Petone......the combined IQ's wouldn't reach double digits.....

[mikeynz]

1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said:

The've been on the blower to South Australia, some comparison that, like minds......look at the once mighty Oakbank Carnival, gone from iconic to ironic, it's so demoralising to see the crowds disintegrate. They used to travel up from Adelaide in the tens of thousands, all those great Kiwi Jumpers against the best Aussies, and now, nada, zilch, zero, and the place is a ghost town while the dolts at Morphetville HQ pick up gazillionaire salaries, just like Petone......the combined IQ's wouldn't reach double digits.....

Talking about crowds I was watching trackside yesty, I don't watch often, when they were doing some interviews at The Valley it looked like hardly a soul in the grandstand, just a observation.

[The Centaur]

5 hours ago, curious said:

Seems you could run them almost between the flat AWT races. Different pool of riders for weighing out etc. Put the temporary fences wide out, outside fence in the straight if necessary to preserve the inside ground for spring racing. Most of the steeple course is essentially a separate track anyway.

Yes that sounds reasonable. There is also the option of running races on the grass and trials in between on the synthetic if the starting gates can be moved satisfactorily. 

[curious]

I realise that it is pie in the sky as SI jumps racing and the Grand National meeting are now in the post-mortem stage. However, you will not have jumps horses and riders there if you don't first have a substantive programme of races for them. It would take a large amount of commitment and resources to schedule such a programme where there are say 2 or 3 jumps races and maybe a highweight (AWT) once a fortnight through the season on the AWT days. Riccarton, while not as sinister as it once was, is still probably the best remaining steeplechase course in the country.

If you did that, you might then attract a couple of the bigger jumps stables to set up satellite stables there for the season leading up to the National meeting. It would take some rebuilding time but I think if you got it going the horses would come, generating additional business for local trainers and adding to the training business for the club.

Edited August 21, 2022 by curious

[Joe Bloggs]

14 hours ago, mikeynz said:

Talking about crowds I was watching trackside yesty, I don't watch often, when they were doing some interviews at The Valley it looked like hardly a soul in the grandstand, just a observation.

The ammenities at 'Money Valley' are second to none, so on a shitty Melbourne winters day, the 'crowds' would have been inside warming themselves, and watching the horses parade in the back ring........the public transport to the Valley is second to none, Trains, Trams and Buses, ........just brilliant.

[All The Aces]

On 8/20/2022 at 12:44 PM, nomates said:

Yeah whatever , you can assume but perhaps Walker had to re asses what and where he was going to run his horses when they chose not to split the race , the 2 unraced fillies he has in the 3yo fillies race weren't originally nom'd for it , fortunately it was kept open .

As for plenty of 1200 mdns around , mostly on bog tracks or A/W , or a trip to Ruakaka , so good track options are thin . 

You'd be one of those that think all is well with NZ racing .

As for an apology , i and many more in the industry are owed much more than that from NZTR .

So have you scratched after all this?  

[Huey]

12 hours ago, curious said:

I realise that it is pie in the sky as SI jumps racing and the Grand National meeting are now in the post-mortem stage. However, you will not have jumps horses and riders there if you don't first have a substantive programme of races for them. It would take a large amount of commitment and resources to schedule such a programme where there are say 2 or 3 jumps races and maybe a highweight (AWT) once a fortnight through the season on the AWT days. Riccarton, while not as sinister as it once was, is still probably the best remaining steeplechase course in the country.

If you did that, you might then attract a couple of the bigger jumps stables to set up satellite stables there for the season leading up to the National meeting. It would take some rebuilding time but I think if you got it going the horses would come, generating additional business for local trainers and adding to the training business for the club.

How on earth are you expecting this to happen? When you have a governing body who can't even reschedule extra races after racemeetings or put on extra meetings or even utilise the existing assets at their disposal appropriately. 

Absolutely no chance of this , it would require some specialised knowledge(void of that with the governing body), some initiative, someone whose actually interested in the sport, some vision, abiltity to plan , someone to go against the current agenda that isn't working.

Sorry Curious it's no hope, just sit back and watch them kill it thats about all anyone can do now.

[nomates]

24 minutes ago, All The Aces said:

So have you scratched after all this?  

YAWN !

[All The Aces]

4 hours ago, nomates said:

YAWN !

Karma don't you think. 😊