hesi Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I recall Peter Blanchard came along, they introduced HCO3 testing, and he was gone as quickly as he came. Might be wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 9:24 AM, Brodie said: The thing is though is that there are so many more races that you can compete in without Emma Stewart horses and that is the difference. What is her secret? Horsham today. Very low class Monday meeting. 8 race programme. Emma Stewart has horses in 6 races. Six wins 100% for the day. Now thats domination. Doesn't leave much for the rest of Victorian trainers. Usually wins most of the group races and now all the rest. I wonder when the exodus to NZ where it is easier to win will start.? Her secret. A very good trainer with very good horses and a very good driver, C Alford. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 9:24 AM, Brodie said: The thing is though is that there are so many more races that you can compete in without Emma Stewart horses and that is the difference. What is her secret? rising early focusing on the tasks at hand and staying offline where possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 9:26 AM, Brodie said: NZ harness would actually be a helluva lot better off where the stakes were shared around as I am telling you now owners are getting the stitch big time. so pay something like 97% of prize money equally amongst starters and use the 3% for some ribbons medals and certificates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 25/08/2018 at 10:10 AM, hunterthepunter said: purdon domination will be over this year in 2year old racing from what im hearing i might have heard that in previous years do you have any reasons for saying this like did they buy poorly at the sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Hi Rangatira, I think the reason is because Allstars have publicly said they reduced the numbers of yearlings/now two year olds, they were taking this year. Of course, it does not mean they will not be dominate again, with the ones they have. Cheers. Robert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Rangatira said: so pay something like 97% of prize money equally amongst starters and use the 3% for some ribbons medals and certificates Very intelligent posting but we could expect something like this couldn’t we? Productive Not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Brodie said: Very intelligent posting but we could expect something like this couldn’t we? Productive Not! was just me being more specific than your vague effort keen to see your specifics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Double R said: Hi Rangatira, I think the reason is because Allstars have publicly said they reduced the numbers of yearlings/now two year olds, they were taking this year. Of course, it does not mean they will not be dominate again, with the ones they have. Cheers. Robert. Hi Robert. They will win most if not all of the 2 year old races that they compete in! The Thing is that 2 year old racing was very strong just after Cup time many years ago in Christchurch but now it doesn’t really start till the new year, and most don’t bother now because they know there is no money in it! Reality is that the domination is having a helluva detrimental effect on harness racing in NZ whether you believe it or not! The next few years are going to be very vital to where the sport is going to go! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rangatira said: was just me being more specific than your vague effort keen to see your specifics Rangatira, can’t be bothered with your efforts to have Brodie on, winners to sort for Addington. Discuss things with yourself! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Double R said: Hi Rangatira, I think the reason is because Allstars have publicly said they reduced the numbers of yearlings/now two year olds, they were taking this year. Of course, it does not mean they will not be dominate again, with the ones they have. Cheers. Robert. thanks double r for choosing not to skirt around the question thats good info i wonder how brodie is getting on with his addington winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Rangatira said: i might have heard that in previous years do you have any reasons for saying this like did they buy poorly at the sales another stable has better buys at the sales and has 2 top colts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Hi Robert. They will win most if not all of the 2 year old races that they compete in! The Thing is that 2 year old racing was very strong just after Cup time many years ago in Christchurch but now it doesn’t really start till the new year, and most don’t bother now because they know there is no money in it! Reality is that the domination is having a helluva detrimental effect on harness racing in NZ whether you believe it or not! The next few years are going to be very vital to where the sport is going to go! Bizzare??? Come on, your crazy statements just get worse. 1, Of course trainers wait until new year to really pump up 2yos, that period up until jewels is where the good money is. Racing calender very different years ago, you should know that. 2, No money in 2yo racing, so most dont bother???? Oh deary me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Newmarket said: Bizzare??? Come on, your crazy statements just get worse. 1, Of course trainers wait until new year to really pump up 2yos, that period up until jewels is where the good money is. Racing calender very different years ago, you should know that. 2, No money in 2yo racing, so most dont bother???? Oh deary me. Newmarket, crazy comment! So all the trainers don’t want to win good money with horses that come up early as two year olds just so that they can win the Jewels? We all know who wins most of the Jewels races! Jewels is just so over rated!!!! Edited August 28, 2018 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Brodie said: So all the trainers don’t want to win good money with horses that come up early as two year olds just so that they can win the Jewels? so you just made that up and pretended it was what newmarket said lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 hours ago, Brodie said: The Thing is that 2 year old racing was very strong just after Cup time many years ago in Christchurch but now it doesn’t really start till the new year, and most don’t bother now because they know there is no money in it! fingers crossed you are able define the years you refer to as many years ago because its all very vague as usual ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
With A Dream Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: fingers crossed you are able define the years you refer to as many years ago because its all very vague as usual ? Brodie is right here, In the 70's two year old racing began in the latter part of the cup meeting. I remember a horse called Fancy Fred who won his first start in November. In the following January he won a 2 year old race by 15 lengths. Des Grice had some nice two year olds around that time also. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, With A Dream said: Brodie is right here, In the 70's two year old racing began in the latter part of the cup meeting. I remember a horse called Fancy Fred who won his first start in November. In the following January he won a 2 year old race by 15 lengths. Des Grice had some nice two year olds around that time also. fancy fred would be more than 40 years ago there is not much in harness racing that hasn't changed in the last 40 years gordon middleton seldom without an early 2yo el jefe won first 5 for des grice failed to place once it was group race time mainly standing starts back then Edited August 29, 2018 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, With A Dream said: Brodie is right here, In the 70's two year old racing began in the latter part of the cup meeting. I remember a horse called Fancy Fred who won his first start in November. In the following January he won a 2 year old race by 15 lengths. Des Grice had some nice two year olds around that time also. Normally the last night of the cup meeting 2yos started in the South bit earlier in the north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, Rangatira said: fancy fred would be more than 40 years ago there is not much in harness racing that hasn't changed in the last 40 years gordon middleton seldom without an early 2yo el jefe won first 5 for des grice failed to place once it was group race time mainly standing starts back then Nice horse el jefe only had 10 starts before being exported to America, he ran into some top horses, the likes of Mel's boy, enterprise, hilarious guest and Norton in his 2yo year........we certainly have gone backwards in a big way in NZ, not just in the stakes department! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Normally the last night of the cup meeting 2yos started in the South bit earlier in the north that's rite flagships remember my old man training first 2year old winner was last night of cup week then it won the golden slipper stakes that race is not run now it was run for years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: that's rite flagships remember my old man training first 2year old winner was last night of cup week then it won the golden slipper stakes that race is not run now it was run for years Where was the golden slipper run Hunter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: that's rite flagships remember my old man training first 2year old winner was last night of cup week then it won the golden slipper stakes that race is not run now it was run for years Just now, Flagship uberalles said: Where was the golden slipper run Hunter? waimate before christmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rangatira said: waimate before christmas waimate then run was shifted to omararu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 r m cameron won the last edition with the horse that fell over the hub rail in the sires stakes final later that season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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